Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Wyll should make his own decisions

Support. Wyll needs more content in general, but at the very least he should be able to make his own choice in his own storyline...like every other origin companion can if we decide to not interfere.

This is really annoying. It seems Wyll got sidelined again in favour for other companions. He is the one with the least amount of content and his big scene is still broken.
Can this already get fixed? We are down to counting kisses with other companions, while he still is in a kind of pre release status.

It makes a change for the tiefling party. If you saved Karlach he is moping because he might be seen as a devil by the people who have just also been dragged into hell against their will. If you kill Karlach, he is starting to question if he can ever be the hero he wants to be while he has to do Mizora's bidding. But it would be cool, if this made a difference in his final choice.

If it's a consolation to you, fylimar, Mizora has at least been moved to the far side of the act 3 harbour camp now, so she is at least not standing directly next to Wyll any longer.

The last part is great, but I still would love to see Wyll getting some agency
I mean, if I understand correctly, the voice actors were brought in to record new lines to react to spawn Astarion. Would it really be too much to ask, that Theo could have recorded one or two more lines for Wylls quest? I get the feeling,some characters and storylines get a lot of attention,while the rest is just not important.

The lines for Astarion's dock scene have been in the game for a while. I can't find the original yt video that showed them (someone will probably swoop in with the date soon) but iirc the audio files have been in there since patch 5. So they were probably recorded along with the epilogue.

If you want to talk about favouritism, Shadowheart just got another set of camp animations after having her stool upgraded (which I still steal to sit with Gale in act 2) while Gale and Wyll are the only companions left with only their original idles. (Edit: Which is not supposed to sound as salty as it does, I rather they do things they feel motivated to do, than add things they don't really care about to to fill a quota.)

I mean there is clear favoutism going on, we all know, that Shadowheart and Astarion get pampered quite a lot.
I'm not wanting kisses or animations or faces made during kisses, I just want one more line of dialogue for Wyll, so that he can decide his own fate, same as everyone else.
I don't think, that is over the top or too much.
As a very hot take: if they had stayed away from adding more romantic interactions, there would have been less complaints and people maybe would give more feedback about the actual story. I don't care if a companion has one or twenty kiss animations, as long as their story is finished.
I might sound a bit salty, but it comes from a place of love for the game and the characters. The fan favourites already have enough speaking for them, so I thought to jump into the breach for Wyll,who is a very underrated character imo.

It's not too much.

Wyll is the companion I wanted to have by the side of my goodish character. I found it very dissapointing to learn that he was not at the same level as Astarion in terms of story and development, but then again I have not seen everything for my self. I heard his new romantic greeting still does not trigger properly on DUrge. I'm glad he got some attention in the latest patch though.

I think he is underrated because he is underdeveloped, and like you say a little too dependent on Tavs decisions which hurts his personality.

This, exactly. The problem with Wyll was the rewrite and the change in voice acting. Theo is great and given the opportunity, he does a stellar performance. Sadly, Wylls story rewrite was last minute and it shows. I like the new story, but it is often tied to someone else ( Karlach, Emperor), so that Wyll gets sidelined and the worst is, to not let him make a decision. According to his story, he was forced to make hard decisions very early on and then he can't make his most important decision alone.

Now we get Viagra ads? I miss the Dubai girls already

It is sad. I like Wyll but it was clear to me while playing that he has a lot less content than other characters. Which then leads to him being less popular, which seems to then lead to Larian neglecting him more because he's less popular. It's a vicious cycle and I'm not sure if they see it. :\

Agreed. It is sad, because when I started the full game, I had the feeling, that Wyll had the making of becoming as popular as Alistair from DAO. Whcih was never a favourite of mine - more because of his story than his personality, but Wyll was the knight in shining armor, witty banter and good looks (I mean, my lesbian ass might be off, but for me, Wyll is one of the best looking male characters in the game). I honestly liked his rewritten story up to the point, where he couldn't make his most important decision.
I don't keep tabs of who says what and how often, but it was clear, that Wyll had a lot less reactivity to events than fan favourites Shadowheart and Astarion for example. When he had something to say, it was great, but often, he didn't .

In the last weeks I had the feeling, that Wyll was gaining on popularity, I saw a lot more Wyll fan art and topics about him on the Reddit subforums for example, so my hope is, that there is maybe a bit more coming.

I found it ironic that it would target this thread where it have been more focus on adding more reaction from wyll instead of romance for others, when there are so many romance focused threads in here.

I don't think Wyll is unpopular because he has so little content - I mean, people love Minthara who also does not have much - but because he is a terrible moraliser while at the same time being shown as a not very skilled monster hunter. Leftovers of his old plot, I guess. Personally, I also bench him often because he is still picking fights in the most stupid manner when everyone else has started to get along.

A scene that also bothers me in regards to the second point, is the scene of him and Karlach in Avernus, during which he is given the completely silent role of a Tav who needs the Hells explained to them. Considering how the story for him and Karlach starts, that doesn't feel ok and undermines his monster hunter status once more. I haven't checked if the scene is voiced now, though, admittedly.

Right? Maybe they thought, there should be more romance in this thread.

Fyli, you make me very sad by equating romance with sex.

Not my opinion, but that is ok. I only know of one person, he picks fights with, and that is perfectly in character for him imo.
Minthara like Halsin has been made a companion because of fan demand, so it was clear, she is popular (evil drow woman is a must have since Viconia I guess). Halsin has even less content, but was also a fan demand.

I don't recall Wyll being a moralizer, but I tend to play neutral - good leaning characters, and the only companion that really got on my nerves with their commentary was Astarion. I've found Wyll, Karlach and Gale the best party to play, everyone was happy that we are helping people, and no snide remarks or in-fighting.

To get back on topic, for me the worst part of Wyll's quest is Mizora. I don't even get why she was given the best plot armor in a game that is supposed to be about player freedom, when she doesn't even contribute to the plot anymore at that point. She is the Noober of BG3 to me.

lmao agreed! Her plot armor is so obnoxious! Like why am I letting this woman who tried to kill Wyll's father just chill at camp it's crazy.

Completely agree. Not going to lie, it makes me so mad that she's just chilling in our camp and I can't make her leave! Why do random moochers keep invading my camp

Talking of Mizora, I didn't mind the time when she didn't want to have sex with the player character if you had freed Wyll from his pact. That was a convenient way to dodge that one. Now she not only propositions you, if you have freed Wyll, but also offers you help for the final battle that never comes if you let her stay in camp. I didn't see anything in the patch notes about this issue.