Okay folks, I'm seeing people on all sides of this argument complaining that others are saying that their view is the only correct or ethical one (and they're right that this is not helpful or constructive) whilst at the same time implying that their own view is the only correct or ethical one (which is not helpful or constructive). But I'd also ask that we recognise that of course people arguing for a point are likely to think it's better supported by the evidence, and arguing that in and of itself is not disrespectful of other opinions, as long as we don't try to shout those other opinions down by repetitive posting, belittle or mock others for having different views, or try to imply that others don't have the right to hold or express different preferences.
I would encourage everyone to take a step back and, while we all know it's easier to recognise problematic behaviour in those with whom we disagree than those with whom we agree, try to rise above factionalism and accept that there have been posts here from all sides that haven't helped the cause of constructive, friendly debate and do what they can to foster a more positive and less adversarial environment.
And to accept that it is both inevitable and absolutely fine that no matter how much we talk we will end up still disagreeing, and in the end we just need to recognise when we have made our points and stop going round in circles.
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
