i didnt say anything about haarlep, since his scene is irrelevant for this discussion anyway. but going forward, i would just urge others to also drop it as it doesnt have anything to do with AA.

Originally Posted by Natasy
I actually really like patch 7 for that exact reason. The little looks of shock and momentary surprise are present without being over the top and denying the PC their own enjoyment.

just had another look some videos, as i havent updated my own game yet to see it on my own durge. but: agree on the biting kiss, i think tavs reaction is good there, not too much, especially with the look when he does bite. for the kneeling kiss i am torn, i think it is a bit over the top, especially adding the flirty eyes and barely a reaction to AA pushing tav away. the neck kiss is alright imo.


Originally Posted by Natasy
He's still powerful. And some of his handling is rough. I like that they still included that because it still registers without giving off fear/terror/non-consent, or like Tav wants him to stop. I wouldn't agree that the patch 6 faces aren't and weren't meant to be fear, however. Since I think the audio select chose from the fear "bank" of expressions. correct me if I'm wrong!

i am not sure what you mean by "audio select chose from the fear "bank" of expressions". our interpretation of the patch 6 expressions is different, it seems. i dont think its fear per se, you do. thats okay though. i think it comes down to how you interpret his behaviour as a whole. i dont know if you are open to the suggestion, but it *could* be interpreted as abusive. again, abuse comes in different ways, and this could be one. in which case patch 6 would be a more fitting expression, though still over the top. i am not saying this is noncon at all. there is still consent present. but you have to admit there is such a dynamic of a fun toxic relationship where you cant live with each other but also not without each other. doesnt mean tav doesnt do the same things to astarion sometimes maybe behind closed doors. understandable if you dont want to play this way, but the option would be nice (again, with patch 6 slightly tweaked to be less intense)

again, if this is not for you, feel free to ignore. i feel we are slowly inching towards mutual understanding and i dont want to fight.