This is one of my favorite lines in the Dark Urge + AA romance. It's only available if your Dark Urge becomes Bhaal's chosen. And after the new Chosen Durge ending was added, this is not a path I'll be able to take anymore.
Trying to put into words my own sadness and disappointment about what happens to Dark Urge and AA's romance if you accept Bhaal now with the new (patch 7) endings in their current state.
I will mourn the lovely romance moments that were exclusive to the Chosen Durge relationship:
“You're going to sit nicely in my lap - perhaps naked - as I give orders to our nocturnal horde from my palace throne.”
“Bhaa'ls army will be an unsurpassable dowry. I cannot wait for you to claim it.” - AA to Dark Urge after they accept Bhaal. I love the dowry line, it supports the vampire wedding concept, and how he views their relationship as a unified/married couple after the turning night.
“I'm with you, my dear - wherever this leads.” - Astarion to Dark Urge when Jaheira and Minsc attack them for accepting Bhaal. The devotion!
Not to mention the Amelyssan prophecy about their immortal love: 'One night, in thousands of years, you will watch the stars collapse in the heavens in each other's arms, and be broiled to the bone.'
Astarion: "How romantic."
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RIP.
Personally, I preferred playing my Durge as happily good/redeemed and I still love having her be together with Ascended Astarion. I see him as one of the most loyal companions, as no matter if your Durge decides to embrace their evil side or not, AA is happy either way and he remains devoted. But I still loved the option for evil Durges to embrace Bhaal, and the unique romantic moments available to them with AA. I wish there was a better option available to them in their romance with the new ending.
I later read that Gale could ruin the romance with Astarion at the party and it was advised not to approach Gale at all, but as you can see from my experience, that won't happen if you just approach Astarion again (the dialog with him will restart). By the way, I made an approach to Astarion three more times for prevention, and each time the dialog starts again, so you can see different variants of dialog with him without having to reload. (...)
This is pretty funny. Maybe if the scene with Gale had happened before the party, I wouldn't have thought anything of it and would have agreed to the magic lesson because it sounds interesting on its own and doesn't even seem like flirting. I guess it depends on Gale's approval level, or I just had too little rest in the first act. I decided to turn him down in the second playthrough as well, and I see I did the right thing since he acts like you had sex. This is an extremely odd inconsistency in romance, the player's decision is ignored, the companion acts like the other doesn't exist. I managed to avoid this unrealistic behavior with Gale, except for that funny incident at the party when Gale “doesn't take no for an answer”. In your case, Gale comes off as a very brash, narcissistic, and self-righteous suitor who seems to ignore Astarion's existence or considers him a “temporary distraction” and himself the center of the world and the God of Magic (in advance).
That's an interesting way to check out all dialogue options. Before the party the conversation had a very natural flow, especially if you a wizard you can even tease Gale that you do magic, not melodrama and that you see things differently. He asks you about your opinion and then invites you to show you what he means so you understand him better. He's even surprised when you show romantic intentions, so the whole thing can have a purely platonic feel if you so choose.
Yeah, Gale was certainly something in my game.
Originally Posted by Marielle
In general, Halsin doesn't represent polyamorous relationships very well in my opinion. A polite person should first ask how the couple they want to join feels about polyamorous relationships. And only make such an offer to them if they respond positively. Behavior like Halsin's, where he simply ignores the fact that Tav has a couple, and except to “graciously” allow: “Well, you ask him for his consent, I can hook him up too, it's a bear thing to do...” causes a negative attitude towards Halsin's character and a feeling that they are literally trying to impose polyamory on you. There were plenty of opportunities for polyamory in DAO and Pathfinder too, but it was seen purely in a positive way, as good opportunities for other players, without any negativity towards it. Halsin himself is not a bad character, I ran with him for interest in Act 3, and he has normal lines (as a companion, he's nicer than Wyll and even the aforementioned Gale). All it would take would be to make Halsin's behavior less intrusive and defiant, so as not to form a preconceived notion of the character, and he wouldn't be seen as a “rattle for Orin”. I've changed my attitude towards Halsin, but his romantic scenario clearly leaves a lot to be desired.
Agreed, they really dropped the ball here.
Originally Posted by Marielle
Karlach doesn't say anything about our relationship, but also doesn't try to get hooked up with Tav in any way. At the party, she says she'd like a “hot guy.” Although I know she has a scene where she tries to seduce Tav after dealing with her inability to touch, but I didn't have that scene.
Me neither, then again I never flirted with her once and didn't hug her.
Originally Posted by Marielle
A little while later Astarion woke up as an Ascended and a married man without noticing the catch, absolutely voluntarily, he wanted it himself and sincerely considers himself to be in charge of the family.
Originally Posted by Marielle
is a very reactive and versatile character, he is great at building relationships with different characters, he loves a challenge and a game, but he also appreciates just a good treatment, he can fall in love with both the bright and bold and the inexperienced in love science Tav. In the case of choosing only the most positive of possible lines, some of his incredulity is evident at first, like the line “So cute...” said in a decidedly ironic and incredulous way in response to the promise that we will definitely know the meaning of his scars. Maybe teasing is something even more familiar to him, he's pretty sharp with his tongue himself, and in this case Astarion is kind of unsure how to respond, or thinks this behavior is possible manipulation and doesn't believe in Tav's sincerity until Tav can prove it with deeds.
I always liked the scenes where he was caught off-guard like that and had no prepared lines for Tav.
Originally Posted by Sini
Speaking of Gale, I didn't know he could react like that. My Drow Dark Urge was poisoned by Nettie and killed her for it. Gale reacts like this, he surprised me
That's a very strong reaction for sure! :o
Originally Posted by Sini
I love this Video, this is what I would have wished for an evil ending. Thank you to DarkUrgeDairies
That video is freaking awesome! Especially at the end when both their endings got merged together so she becomes the Absolute while he becomes the Sun Lord, ending with matching eyes, that was so good! Very well made and the shovel bits were hilarious
That's pretty much what a Dark Urge ending should be. Morbidly sinister yet poetically romantic, sharing together in the madness with their love interest... a deranged power couple like the Joker and Harley Quinn, Bonnie and Clyde... if only Larian cared even 1% about telling an intricate evil story with some satisfying nuance.
Yeah, I totally agree. Poetry is an ingredient that is sometimes just woefully lacking in the dish called “Larian romance”. And while the “dark romances” got definitely more poetry, like Astarion's “Aeterna Amantes” or Minthara's “Alurlssrin”, that ending for the DU's who accepted Bhaal, which is now in play, just turns the whole thing into... Something that can only be categorically discarded.
Originally Posted by Sini
This is how I see my dark romance with Astarion, they walk the path of power together and destroy the world. Both of them have fallen into madness and will surrender to the night together as a final sacrifice, even if the prophecy was inaccurate and the Durge is the end of days. Father would be proud ... but I've to betray him ... no Bhaal ending for my Durgie. I really hope that the modders will have a heart for our super villians couples. AA has so many creative fans, I'm hoping for a little knowledge transfer, especially when it comes to editing complete scenes, I'm still at the beginning. Would be great to share the work at such large project. To make new animations will be a lot of work.
Yeah, we can only hope for the mods.
Originally Posted by Celesti4
This is one of my favorite lines in the Dark Urge + AA romance. It's only available if your Dark Urge becomes Bhaal's chosen. And after the new Chosen Durge ending was added, this is not a path I'll be able to take anymore.
Trying to put into words my own sadness and disappointment about what happens to Dark Urge and AA's romance if you accept Bhaal now with the new (patch 7) endings in their current state.
I will mourn the lovely romance moments that were exclusive to the Chosen Durge relationship:
“You're going to sit nicely in my lap - perhaps naked - as I give orders to our nocturnal horde from my palace throne.”
“Bhaa'ls army will be an unsurpassable dowry. I cannot wait for you to claim it.” - AA to Dark Urge after they accept Bhaal. I love the dowry line, it supports the vampire wedding concept, and how he views their relationship as a unified/married couple after the turning night.
“I'm with you, my dear - wherever this leads.” - Astarion to Dark Urge when Jaheira and Minsc attack them for accepting Bhaal. The devotion!
Not to mention the Amelyssan prophecy about their immortal love: 'One night, in thousands of years, you will watch the stars collapse in the heavens in each other's arms, and be broiled to the bone.'
Astarion: "How romantic."
---
RIP.
Personally, I preferred playing my Durge as happily good/redeemed and I still love having her be together with Ascended Astarion. I see him as one of the most loyal companions, as no matter if your Durge decides to embrace their evil side or not, AA is happy either way and he remains devoted. But I still loved the option for evil Durges to embrace Bhaal, and the unique romantic moments available to them with AA. I wish there was a better option available to them in their romance with the new ending.
Especially this: “'I'm with you, my dear - wherever this leads.” And that devotion is supposed to lead him to this...? If I had gotten to that ending, I would never be able to play a character with the face that my DU would have had in that walkthrough again... Although I also like playing a redeemed DU with Ascended Astarion the most, especially as a chaotic character who denies the gods, who is loyal to only one single person and doesn't want any “third superfluous” with their plans in his life, be it gods or humans. But to go for “evil” to the end is also interesting, and the variation of walkthroughs and replayability now also suffers from the inability to do so. I liked the dowry line a lot too... And Amelyssan's prophecy illustrates just the fitting ending you cited... It's odd that existing storylines have been completely forgotten and ignored in this new ending.
Originally Posted by Ametris
That's an interesting way to check out all dialogue options. Before the party the conversation had a very natural flow, especially if you a wizard you can even tease Gale that you do magic, not melodrama and that you see things differently. He asks you about your opinion and then invites you to show you what he means so you understand him better. He's even surprised when you show romantic intentions, so the whole thing can have a purely platonic feel if you so choose.
I agree, before the party this dialog seems much more logical and natural, and you can leave it at a friendly level. Moral - rest more often in Act 1 so that the scenes fit well into the plot (I had Lae and SH fighting from a prism I already had at the time, so I guess Gale was also late with his proposal due to my lack of long rests).
Originally Posted by Ametris
I always liked the scenes where he was caught off-guard like that and had no prepared lines for Tav.
Yep. It's always so cute... Like how Astarion reacts to Tav's “And how do we do that?” question after his offer to lead the cult in the future. <3 I just can't even pick an “evil” line at wanting to agree with him without asking him before doing so, even if only without saving.
Oh my god, “kiss a toad”, I don't even remember that line (I guess I should pick something more “rejectionist” than I usually am somewhere before that), lol. It's funny, closer to a romantic comedy (“black comedy” given the characters, hehe... :)) when the characters bicker at first, or have some funny misunderstandings between them.
Ok, not a toad but a leech ... doesn't necessarily make it better, but that's his funny way of dealing with something like that.
"Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized" ~ Braingremlin
Ok, not a toad but a leech ... doesn't necessarily make it better, but that's his funny way of dealing with something like that.
Ha! Astarion is such a cool guy here! <3 “Deny your feelings all you like, it doesn't matter to me”. Thanks for the video, Astarion is very seductive here... And very confident in himself and your future! And by the way, this kind of game fits very well with the story of the beginning of the “evil couple” relationship. Just in case, I sign in advance with my 100% subjectivity and absolute bias regarding the assessment of his behavior. For if someone I don't like behaves this way, I will in return behave in a way he doesn't like. But Astarion... Astarion can take my DU or Tav by the hair and take her to a deep forest thicket, and she would pin him there to the nearest tree tightly so he wouldn't break out, with the words, “You'll be all mine...”
These are interesting facets of his character - Astarion responds very confidently and seductively to such teasing and is able to break down any resistance.
Ha! Astarion is such a cool guy here! <3 “Deny your feelings all you like, it doesn't matter to me”. Thanks for the video, Astarion is very seductive here... And very confident in himself and your future! And by the way, this kind of game fits very well with the story of the beginning of the “evil couple” relationship. Just in case, I sign in advance with my 100% subjectivity and absolute bias regarding the assessment of his behavior. For if someone I don't like behaves this way, I will in return behave in a way he doesn't like. But Astarion... Astarion can take my DU or Tav by the hair and take her to a deep forest thicket, and she would pin him there to the nearest tree tightly so he wouldn't break out, with the words, “You'll be all mine...”
These are interesting facets of his character - Astarion responds very confidently and seductively to such teasing and is able to break down any resistance.
He seems to have plans or an idea about your future together very early on. On the night he wants to bite you, he says the following when you interrupt him while he's drinking. There he talks about how you can take on the world together.
He always reacts so cool when you tease him. You have to look at it from the Dark Urge's point of view, you have a hell of a headache, and then you have this bloodsucker, who not only drinks your blood (the good Bhaal blood ), he is also already planning your future together... him makes the plans without you to surprise you. Clearly the Dark Urge isn't in the best of moods in this situation... at least my Durgie isn't.
"Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized" ~ Braingremlin
I was very touched when I first saw Astarion turn around and say: “This is a gift, you know. I won't forget it.” <3 And his gait as he walks away in the finale, his facial expression... “Stronger. More confident. Ready to hunt.” Yeah, about the fact that you can take on the world together is really nice to hear too... A hint of a future relationship, mmm... The hardest choice is to let Astarion drink me to the end, or stop him for this scene (but not before the second check, to prolong the biting moment). About Bhaal's blood I was also pondering, if Astarion drinks DU's blood so often, he could conceivably become Bhaal's son too, hehe! Or a vampire's blood is somehow processed differently in the body, but, that would be fun.
Companions' reactions to Astarion attacking the MC during the first meeting! He threatens the others to stay back, and they actually react? I love this! I don't know if this is new or if I just completely missed this before
Originally Posted by Marielle
Especially this: “'I'm with you, my dear - wherever this leads.” And that devotion is supposed to lead him to this...? If I had gotten to that ending, I would never be able to play a character with the face that my DU would have had in that walkthrough again... Although I also like playing a redeemed DU with Ascended Astarion the most, especially as a chaotic character who denies the gods, who is loyal to only one single person and doesn't want any “third superfluous” with their plans in his life, be it gods or humans. But to go for “evil” to the end is also interesting, and the variation of walkthroughs and replayability now also suffers from the inability to do so. I liked the dowry line a lot too... And Amelyssan's prophecy illustrates just the fitting ending you cited... It's odd that existing storylines have been completely forgotten and ignored in this new ending.
Totally agree with you, it is so hurtful what they've done to Chosen DU endings for those romancing him. I feel it's completely disregarding those moments, their love story, and what the player may have wanted. Even the 'generic' evil endings allow you to stay together with your loved one. But not Dark Urge... I'm gutted.
I was very touched when I first saw Astarion turn around and say: “This is a gift, you know. I won't forget it.” <3 And his gait as he walks away in the finale, his facial expression... “Stronger. More confident. Ready to hunt.” Yeah, about the fact that you can take on the world together is really nice to hear too... A hint of a future relationship, mmm... The hardest choice is to let Astarion drink me to the end, or stop him for this scene (but not before the second check, to prolong the biting moment). About Bhaal's blood I was also pondering, if Astarion drinks DU's blood so often, he could conceivably become Bhaal's son too, hehe! Or a vampire's blood is somehow processed differently in the body, but, that would be fun.
If Bear's Blood makes him drunk, what will Bhaal's Blood do to him? Interesting question. Because he apparently reacts to the blood he drinks. The Dark Urge is a demigod, but if the Dark Urge was created from the blood of Bhaal, then he can be understood as a kind of magical clone of Bhaal and it would have to be the blood of a god.
I think I'd better stop letting him regularly drink my Durgie's blood, which must be pretty delicious.
Originally Posted by Celesti4
Companions' reactions to Astarion attacking the MC during the first meeting! He threatens the others to stay back, and they actually react? I love this! delight I don't know if this is new or if I just completely missed this before confused
I only know the lyrics to Shadowheart. Very funny to hear what the others are saying.
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"Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized" ~ Braingremlin
Companions' reactions to Astarion attacking the MC during the first meeting! He threatens the others to stay back, and they actually react? I love this! I don't know if this is new or if I just completely missed this before
This has always been there, I either get Shadowheart or Gales reaction, I've never gotten any of the other companion reactions since I like to recruit Astarion as soon as I can xD
Companions' reactions to Astarion attacking the MC during the first meeting! He threatens the others to stay back, and they actually react? I love this! I don't know if this is new or if I just completely missed this before
This has always been there, I either get Shadowheart or Gales reaction, I've never gotten any of the other companion reactions since I like to recruit Astarion as soon as I can xD
Thanks! I can't believe I missed that all this time. Either I was alone when I got to him or I didn't fail the dice rolls. Gale's reaction cracked me up. xD
Originally Posted by Sini
If Bear's Blood makes him drunk, what will Bhaal's Blood do to him? Interesting question. Because he apparently reacts to the blood he drinks. The Dark Urge is a demigod, but if the Dark Urge was created from the blood of Bhaal, then he can be understood as a kind of magical clone of Bhaal and it would have to be the blood of a god.
Yeah, you only get the companion reaction if he does have you pinned to the ground. I've always chosen one of the dialogue options that trigger that to happen to get the companion dialogue. I like Gales reaction so I always quickly grab him first, send Shadowheart to camp (or move her far away), and get his reaction. I'm not interested in recruiting any other companions first to experience their reactions myself, though. I like to get Astarion recruited ASAP.
Some runs I only recruit Astarion out of all the main companions, though. Sometimes I get so overwhelmed with having so many companions to talk to. Plus I much enjoy the morning after act 1 Durge night when you only have Astarion in camp/alive.
What's a step beyond drunkenness? Goblin/gremlin mode
A complete bear was at least too much. If he drinks the Dark Urge dry, he should actually experience something like a never-ending evil drug nightmare. Goblin/Gremlin is probably the more harmless one. I'd better divide the blood into rations for him
Originally Posted by Marielle
I was very touched when I first saw Astarion turn around and say: “This is a gift, you know. I won't forget it.” <3
I reworked this image a little in Photoshop for you ... have fun. <3
Edit: Make a little change
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"Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized" ~ Braingremlin
Companions' reactions to Astarion attacking the MC during the first meeting! He threatens the others to stay back, and they actually react? I love this! I don't know if this is new or if I just completely missed this before
I had Shadowheart react the first time too, but in a slightly different way for some reason, I can't remember the exact words, but she was more worried about Tav, like “Get the knife away from her!”, but unfortunately it was long enough ago to remember the exact line. Afterwards, I was already specifically going to Astarion first, and we were happily playing “put me on the ground, charming” without anyone else's eyes. Interestingly, if you refuse to help him, the knife scene happens automatically when you agree, you have to fail the perception check or you'll notice the dagger, the second time I had to reload five times to fail that unfortunate perception, lol. Note, Astarion liked your neck at first sight. (“lovely neck of yours”), and such a beautiful velvet intonation in “Now, I saw you on the ship, didn't I?” Lae'zel's flirting, funny. She's probably the hardest to get before Astarion, Shadowheart is the closest, and Gale is around there too.
Originally Posted by Celesti4
Totally agree with you, it is so hurtful what they've done to Chosen DU endings for those romancing him. I feel it's completely disregarding those moments, their love story, and what the player may have wanted. Even the 'generic' evil endings allow you to stay together with your loved one. But not Dark Urge... I'm gutted.
The standard ones aren't all good either - option 1, the only one playable (lead an army). In the second option (the statue) you can see Astarion kneeling with all the other companions - it's horrible. The third option (Myrkul's “mercy”) - Tav kills everyone, including Astarion, Tav in this case is just as crazy insane, and it's unclear for what purpose everything even existed up to this point (and the same Tav clearly would have been better off not being born), as in the case of the Dark Urge. With the fourth option (the massacre) everything is somehow unclear, I even went through it once myself out of curiosity, Astarion is nowhere to be seen at all. I don't like unclear things, especially since the option to lead the Absolute army for its own ends seems much more logical and meaningful to me. But also in a standard ending they could just make a figurine of your beloved person standing by while you subdue the future soldiers of your army, why not? After all, it's all being done for him, lol. It would be awesome if a mod could add Astarion hovering nearby. And a line before the kiss, like, “I will get you the orb of a god, my love, and your power will know no equal”. You could have just kissed Astarion after that, and the meaning of that evil ending would have taken on new colors.
Originally Posted by Sini
Originally Posted by Celesti4
What's a step beyond drunkenness? Goblin/gremlin mode
A complete bear was at least too much. If he drinks the Dark Urge dry, he should actually experience something like a never-ending evil drug nightmare. Goblin/Gremlin is probably the more harmless one. I'd better divide the blood into rations for him
Uh-oh, maybe Dark Urge should get drunk on wine beforehand to make the drug more fun. Or meditate to relax and get as calm as possible.
Originally Posted by Sini
I reworked this image a little in Photoshop for you ... have fun. <3
Edit: Make a little change
Wow, thank you so much! <3 So exquisite and beautifully done... I'll put it on my desktop!
What's a step beyond drunkenness? Goblin/gremlin mode
A complete bear was at least too much. If he drinks the Dark Urge dry, he should actually experience something like a never-ending evil drug nightmare. Goblin/Gremlin is probably the more harmless one. I'd better divide the blood into rations for him
Uh-oh, maybe Dark Urge should get drunk on wine beforehand to make the drug more fun. Or meditate to relax and get as calm as possible.
Haha... and as Astarion takes his daily ration of blood, the Dark Urge chuckles. "What's there to giggle about darling?" "Oh nothing, enjoy it."
In any case, it is very cheap, the Dark Urge consumed and then Astarion drinks the Durge's blood and gets some of it too.
Originally Posted by Marielle
Wow, thank you so much! <3 So exquisite and beautifully done... I'll put it on my desktop!
Thank you, it's my pleasure... have fun. <3
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"Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized" ~ Braingremlin
Interestingly, if you refuse to help him, the knife scene happens automatically when you agree, you have to fail the perception check or you'll notice the dagger, the second time I had to reload five times to fail that unfortunate perception, lol.
You automatically trigger the knife scene if you either tell him he looks capable enough to take care of himself or just "leave", if you want to pick the first dialogue option but fail the perception check you can use a mod from Nexus to enable force fail rolls. I find the mod useful for a few different moments in the game where I want to fail rolls, like when Astarion sees the bear statue in the basement where the Necromancy book is. If he fails a nature check clicking on the bear statue you can hear him say "rawr". xD
Haha... and as Astarion takes his daily ration of blood, the Dark Urge chuckles. "What's there to giggle about darling?" "Oh nothing, enjoy it."
In any case, it is very cheap, the Dark Urge consumed and then Astarion drinks the Durge's blood and gets some of it too.
Yeah, it's fun! (*tries to get fantasies of drunken Astarion out of her head).
Originally Posted by Kurophina
You automatically trigger the knife scene if you either tell him he looks capable enough to take care of himself or just "leave", if you want to pick the first dialogue option but fail the perception check you can use a mod from Nexus to enable force fail rolls. I find the mod useful for a few different moments in the game where I want to fail rolls, like when Astarion sees the bear statue in the basement where the Necromancy book is. If he fails a nature check clicking on the bear statue you can hear him say "rawr". xD
Oh, thank you, I didn't know about “rawr”! Damn, that needs to be heard...
Oh, thank you, I didn't know about “rawr”! Damn, that needs to be heard...
So yes when you're in act 1, go to the basement where you find the Necromancy book and have Astarion interact with the bear, they'll be a passive nature check, he NEEDS to fail it. So you can either use the Nexus die mod to force fail the roll or savescum.
Then click on the bear until you hear him say "Rawr", sometimes you have to click a few times since he has a few different dialogues. I always do it each playthrough. xD
Yeah, it's fun! (*tries to get fantasies of drunken Astarion out of her head).
Oh dear, I hope he doesn't sing. The poor animals in the camp had to suffer because he wasn't very musical. Maybe he tells jokes when he's drunk and manages to make good puns himself. Maybe he drunkenly remembers parts of his past and tells stories from his childhood.
I took the chance and helped myself to his wardrobe, I can still say "You allowed me to. Have you forgotten?", he doesn't remember. Sceleritas then changed it. He did a pretty good job, I don't have to punish him... although he deserves it. (Yeah yeah, I had a bad hair day, I need to adjust my hairstyle)
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"Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized" ~ Braingremlin
Hey guys sorry for interrupting - just a quick question. Were you able to trigger Astarion's ACT I 'be my mirror' and 'drunk on bear blood' camp scenes this patch?
Never had any issue triggering them in all of my playthroughs since release, but this patch they just refused to come up no matter what. My current character that did not get the scenes;
Out of respect did not invade his mind during the bite night
Let him drink her blood till the very edge of life
The morning after learned about Cazador and everything
When it came to feeding she proposed she's not against him feeding on her each night
Also stood in his defense every step of the way
Usually I'd get his drunk scene in the Underdark (I always delay till then because it's funnier) and the mirror scene somewhere between that and the camp celebration (raid is always left for last in the act), but this time nothing - no matter how much I rested. Tried reloading as well to probe his mind to learn about rats, but nothing.
One thing that was a tiny bit odd was his reveal night got delayed till after meeting Raphael and Dark Urge's mishap at camp. There any specific requirements that I'm unaware of, maybe he has to reveal himself before Raphael?
Am going fully into the 'more filling' sanguine theme this next playthrough for some 'true bloody pleasure' and designed a unique character exclusively for Astarion (appearance, lore, backstory and all) to fully play into his lore, romance and ambitions, so for roleplay and immersion purposes really would love not to miss out on these scenes.
I wish there was a better option available to them in their romance with the new ending.
Before the party the conversation had a very natural flow, especially if you a wizard you can even tease Gale that you do magic, not melodrama and that you see things differently. He asks you about your opinion and then invites you to show you what he means so you understand him better. He's even surprised when you show romantic intentions, so the whole thing can have a purely platonic feel if you so choose.
My Drow Dark Urge was poisoned by Nettie and killed her for it. Gale reacts like this, he surprised me
Thank you to DarkUrgeDairies 
I really hope that the modders will have a heart for our super villians couples. AA has so many creative fans, I'm hoping for a little knowledge transfer, especially when it comes to editing complete scenes, I'm still at the beginning. Would be great to share the work at such large project. To make new animations will be a lot of work.
It's always so cute... 
Like how Astarion reacts to Tav's “And how do we do that?” question after his offer to lead the cult in the future. <3 I just can't even pick an “evil” line at wanting to agree with him without asking him before doing so, even if only without saving. 
Thanks for the video, Astarion is very seductive here... And very confident in himself and your future! 
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