Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion Changes to Dark Urge Patch7

I plead guilty to the fact, that my Dark Urge isn't particularly nice and likes to spread chaos. I would like to collect changes to Dark Urge with Patch 7 that are not so obvious.

In the grove, when I talk to Wyll, I noticed that my Durge doesn't make a complete Dark Urge grimace, but she does do it quite clearly. Before, the face was always neutral-friendly in this scene. I really like the expression on her face, even if I'm not sure what triggers it. I told Wyll that Umi is a hopeless case.

This is the face of a female drow, have you noticed similar things on other races? The Durge grimace apparently varies from race to race ( Celesti who can't make a Durgie face )

if you install mods then yes things in your game can change

Which mod do you mean specifically? I don't use head mods , change expressions or anything that interferes with the story. I actually only use hair and armor mods.

i don't know what mods you installed because you didn't tell us... i just looked at your image and knew it has a mod

the thing with mods is many have background files that include or change something else so a hair mod [being part of the head] may include a head file because thats where the maker took the hair from and it doesn't help that Larian only makes part notes everytime they change things

i would need to play an unmoded game to that scene in order to test if this change is Larian or a 3rd party mode

for what its worth my current [unmodded patch 7] character is a gnome durge and i have noticed some changes between that and my last halforc durge so it looks like different races have minor face animations so it could be just a drow change you see

There are definitely differences in facial expressions between races and the Durge will occasionally make a slight, what I call Durge face. It's not quite as pronounced as the moments when the screen turns red, but there's clearly a malicious greed to be seen.

I once watched videos of this scene from my previous playthroughs. It depends on which dialog choice the Durge makes. If I just say to Wyll that I want to talk to him, then a scene occurs in which our tadpoles connect. If I tell Wyll that this whelp is a hopeless case, then I look at the child with a slightly greeded evil face. The extreme grimace like in the picture above seems to come about when the character smiles at the same time, which the character does random in conversations.

But yes, I am revising, the expression is not new, it existed before the patch and without a smile it looks much milder.

This is from a run before Patch7:



Durge face before screen turns red:



Again the extreme expression when it comes together with a smile... you get a little scared




Somehow, with the Tiefling children, the Durge seems to react with these faces to certain dialog choices or events.


Take a closer look at your Durges' facial expressions in certain situations, I'd like to see what it looks like on other races.

Hmm.. yes.. Still nothing. lol



Edit:
Ah ok, when I choose the right dialogue option, she does at least try:

This is really funny. Your half-elf looks completely untouched and my drow looks like she wanted to eat all the children.

Any other Durges with facial expressions for the scene with Wyll in the grove, when you tell him that the whelp is a hopeless case?

Edit: Ok, you also have a slightly greedy evil face when you choose this dialog. I think the extreme expression comes when your character makes the slight Durgie face and smiles at the same time

That's not really how mods work (if it helps back up my claim, I'm a modder and I've worked on both hair and head mods: hairs really don't include head leftovers like you're mentioning, they're completely separate). While expressions can look different on different heads, if it's a vanilla head and you notice a difference then you're either misremembering or Larian did indeed change the expression.