Originally Posted by Halycon Styxland
Yes of course Rogue is "fine". Again its not my argument that Rogues would suck unbearably.

Its my argument that Rogues havent been fully realized and thus, while all other classes are quite close together, Rogue clearly lag behind everybody else.

Again, Rogue only falls behind if you powergame.

But if you powergame, literally every class lags behind Paladin/Warlock, Monk/Rogue, Sorcerer and Fighter to such a point where (Pure) Rogue lagging behind other classes is barely even a concern.

Originally Posted by Halycon Styxland
If you want to build the tankiest warrior, going Bear Barbarian with Stallion and five levels of Thief is the toughest build I know of.

Abjuration Wizard with 5 levels of Fighter is the tankiest warrior build. Between the damage reduction of Heavy Armour (+ Mastery) and Arcane Ward (Especially with Warding Bond for full resistances) and the AC boost from Shield casts, taking damage is a rare occurance.

But Bear Barbarian is certainly the tankiest self sufficient class simply due to its innate resistance gain (Other classes have to rely on items or Warding Bond to get resistances). With overall Barbarians being relatively tanky due to the base nature of Rage itself providing resistances to Slashing, Piercing and Bludgeoning damage.