Originally Posted by The Red Queen
Moderator Note
This thread has been created by merging three separate threads all discussing the impact on Karlach of other events on the dock at the end, to prevent duplicate discussions that dilute feedback and cause clutter.



When the player plays the origin Astarion, if he chooses not to ascend, Astarion cannot persuade Karlach to survive and return to hell because of his fear of the sun. The player can only watch Karlach turn into ashes. Even if Wyll has chosen to become the Blade of Avernus, Karlach will still be burned to death. If you want to save her, you can only choose to kill 7,000 souls to standing in the sun persuade her to survive. Is it too unfriendly to the Astarion player who chooses the kind route? He can save the tieflings, Isobel and Aylin, and everyone in the Iron Throne, but because he saved 7,000 souls (including many abducted and missing children), he can only get his friend killed by the game mechanism. Is it too unfair?

PS. I posted this in the hope that Larian can see and solve this problem, not to let others persuade me to choose to ascend, nor to let others tell me that if origin Astarion chooses not to ascend, his friend deserves to be burned to death. For Larian, it only takes a change of the order of the ending animation to let spawn Astarion persuade Karlach to survive, Then let him get burned by the sun, or go back to hell with Karlach immediately. instead of constantly breaking the hearts of players who like both spawn Astarion and Karlach.

Last edited by The Red Queen; 02/11/24 07:11 PM. Reason: Added moderator note explaining merged thread