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If Minthara Is Knocked Out During The Raid;

Entering her mind in ACT II and choosing to share our strength against her tormentors; will leave her permanently non-interactable and unobtainable.

The reason this happens is because; if in ACT I Minthara becomes a 'Permanently Hostile' NPC (which by default become non-interactable), the game will continue to treat her as a non-interactable NPC in ACT II as well and will only fix it if she auto-initiates her rescue dialogue herself (once her captors are dealt with). But for this particular outcome the player has to click on her to initiate her rescue dialogue (which naturally cannot be done because the game is still treating her as a non-interactable NPC ever since becoming 'Permanently Hostile' in ACT I).

*As can be seen Minthara who was knocked out during the raid is completely non-interactable and unobtainable if choosing to 'share our strength' with her*


*As can be seen if she got flagged as a 'Permanently Hostile' NPC in ACT I - she cannot be interacted with at all in ACT II*
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Huh, I had to reload a save to see and I did choose exactly like you but she was totally fine for me. I could talk to her, tell her to wait and get her as a follower after. Only thing was that it took longer to take out the guards for my party, maybe Minthara has to get a turn in combat?

I really hope this gets fixed.

Edit: I did knock her out in the goblin camp preventing her raid on the grove in Act 1. And yes, I think I did knock her out before Ragzlin. I killed Gut first in her chambers (not alerting anybody), then knocked out Minthara, then killed Ragzlin.

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I think i got the same bug as you. In my last run. I KO'd her at the Grove defense. I entered her mind and told her to fight with me. After you killed the 2 gnomes torturers you can't talk to her. Nothing. So i loaded an old safe file and attacked the gnomes directly. And it worked then. But i got the Cerys bug in the gnomes fight. Cerys turn was always only a Black screen. And after the gnomes fight this Cerys bug was gone.

At first i KO'd her at the Goblin Camp. The scene with Ketherick at Moonrise was played as normal. But after that Minthara is standing like a Statue in the throne room. She was not teleported to the torture chamber. You can't talk to her. It was completely impossible to recruit her.

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After further testing; it is indeed yet another bug tied to knocking her out during the raid.

Because she's a permanently hostile NPC during the raid; permanently hostile NPCs by default cannot be interacted with and she remains stuck in this non-interactable state all the way into ACT II (which only updates after she auto-initiates her dialogue by being rescued).

But because the 'share our strength' outcome does not auto-initiate her dialogue after combat, her state can never update through dialogue so she remains permanently non-interactable forever. So basically she's a friendly ACT II NPC with 'permanently hostile' state still being applied to her, which makes her non-interactable by default unless she manages to auto-initiate her dialogue.


UPDATE;

  • If she is knocked out at the Goblin Camp before killing Ragzlin she works perfectly fine since she remains a Neutral NPC
  • If she is knocked out at the Goblin Camp after killing Ragzlin she will again remain in her 'permanently hostile state' forever and also remain permanently stuck in Ketheric's throne room.

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Originally Posted by Crimsomrider
UPDATE;

  • If she is knocked out at the Goblin Camp before killing Ragzlin she works perfectly fine since she remains a Neutral NPC
  • If she is knocked out at the Goblin Camp after killing Ragzlin she will again remain in her 'permanently hostile state' forever and also remain permanently stuck in Ketheric's throne room.

I can't believe I was lucky enough to do the knock out exactly right for it to work.. It really should not have to be this difficult to get her in your party on a goodish run.

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For anyone curious here is an easy visual explanation of what is actually happening to her in the background if she's knocked out as a 'Permanently Hostile' NPC in ACT I;

*As can be seen when she is flagged as 'Permanently Hostile' in ACT I - the game by default treats her as non-interactable from that moment on. The only way this gets fixed is if she auto-initiates her rescue dialogue in ACT II (which properly updates her NPC state). But if her dialogue cannot be accessed, her NPC state cannot update therefore Minthara remains eternally non-interactable and thus unobtainable.*

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Minthara's Recruitment Blocker (Goblin Camp Knockout) report has been updated with this info as well.


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