Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback The Dark Urge needs to be fixed

My review of the game remains negative until this is fixed

I want to support this too!

Another small thing I noticed, though not on the resist path...if you use your Slayer form in front of Jaheira, she has nothing to say about it, unlike the other companions. Dunno if it was bugged on my end or not, though.

I want to add to this but it's sort of minor and not like a dire thing that needs to be added. But I've recently downloaded this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/12683 and was shocked by how much dialogue the dark urge misses. I haven't played as Tav in so long, so I was baffled by how much I've missed or forgotten. But why is the dark urge so silent around the world? I would think they would still have things to say. Even just adding Tav lines to the dark urge would suffice for me, I'm content using the mod but I'm not sure if this mod could ever be added to the new mod manager so console players would miss out Just a suggestion!

What are the companion reactions like if you lose the duel with Orin and are doomed to succumb to your urge?

I've only seen videos of Astarion's, specifically romanced Astarion, so it makes me wonder if the other companion reactions are mid

I might test this by purposely losing on my current playthrough. Romancing Lae'zel on this one.

Chiming in that the durge can’t be shouting about their father in acts one and two. It is a spoiler. If anything, I would like to hear all of Tav’s random shouts in act one. That would be preferable to hearing my durge spout stuff that makes no sense.

Another minor thing I noticed...if you hold off on telling your companions of your urge to kill, then the Alfira scene happens, the companion responses are the same "everyone has intrusive thoughts " answers. I think the responses should be way different because from a role play perspective it's immersion breaking.

i'm pretty sure shadowheart's response is something like, "wow, it seems even your father has lost faith in you!", which is just a crazily insensitive thing to say lol. it's the same reaction whether or not she rejected shar, although i don't know if it's different if you romance her?

i do feel like several of the reactions to any version of the durge/orin duel seem inappropriately frivolous i.e. astarion's "twee" comment which really undercut what is meant to be a serious & moving culmination of durge's whole arc, for better or for worse. this isn't the case with any of the companion's stories, which all end beautifully, so it's a shame that durge's arc isn't treated with the same pathos.

Ooof. Yeah It is insensitive. Really sad that Astarion gets more content AND has the most sensitive and heartbreaking lines.

It does seem more in line with Sharran Shadowheart but not Selunite. Honestly some Shadowheart Act 3 characterization seems like they just thought of Sharran and not Selunite, but that's another discussion, lol.

I did send in feedback for all of the Durge stuff a while ago, and I hope they implement it as well as give all the other companions the same treatment that Astarion got, but if it's not in Patch 8, I don't know if it'll ever be fixed.

They changed the Ansur cutscene and changed companion reactions to a lot of things, so it's not like it's impossible.

I would like to add to this thread too. I wholeheartedly agree with everything said in the initial post.

And I am ESPECIALLY disturbed by the complete lack of reaction to

Just being direct, I don't get (actually never did) the general lack of intimacy from Gale as a romance partner. I know he's a stuffy, bookish wizard, but there's a pronounced formality and standoffishness to that relationship that makes it less immersive than it could/should be, all things considered. I grow weary of "nothing would give me greater pleasure" to every request to talk about the relationship. it's jarring and doesn't mesh well with the rest of the conversation. But that is almost a miniscule gripe when compared to his reaction to durge resist being murdered after denying Bhaal. He's glad in a very lukewarm way, as you're saved his butt countless times, and he'd surely be dead without you, blah-blah. Thanks, Gale. Should we shake hands now? He reacted more strongly to my Tav being knocked prone by a phase spider in Act 1. I expected more from this last update than some over hyped neck kissing thing I still haven't triggered (is that with Astarion? I truly have no idea?), and a chance to "temporarily" add Alfira to the party. Which, why would I want to do that anyway? The NPC camp animations are somewhat lame. I'd like to see more movement and walking around. Scratch and the owlbear cub are in constant motion, and everyone else stands around grooming, kneeling, navel gazing, and sharpening a sword that should be a toothpick by act 3 in the same spot. You can give 3 likely prospects the performance feat, but getting them gathered to perform together at camp (which would be a nicer touch than shifting into street performer mode at the lower city central wall, IMO) is almost impossible, unless you corner them on the back wall of the Elfsong, where nobody else in camp can see or hear it anyway. It's just a lot of such little things that bother me and affect the immersion for me. You can pick up two bed rolls and drop them side by side to rp rest next to your romance partner, but how fun is that if he squeezes as far away from your Tav as possible and looks the other way? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad for most of the content, more than ever existed in any previous BG games, but the details that were either omitted or never considered are noticeably absent. I love this game, and the things that bug me are trivial in the scheme of things. But they do bother me.

Hi,
I'm bumping this thread because I want to support it (sorry for my english mistakes, I do my best).

I finished my run as Tav, loved it, now I'm playing a redemption Durge, currently in act 2 but I've read a lot about Durge's plot, because I wasn't sure it was for me at first (so I spoiled myself heavily).

I'm currently in the middle of act 2, and I'm finally enjoying my durge run, but act 1 left me very skeptical... Let's say, during all act 1, I had the impression that these Durge scenes were added with forceps. I don't think they will fix act 1, it would require too much effort and rewriting, but I feel like there were no transition between many scenes ("OMG you killed someone !!" 2 sec later, nobody cares).

Consequence is that I had a hard time to feel connected to my character. I never had this problem during the whole game with my Tav (maybe because I have no trouble to RP, I don't know).
Now I'm in act 2 and finally, my Durge's companions and his love interest take him seriously after the great butler/romance scene. I loved it so much, it helped me A LOT to connect with my character. Astarion was an amazing support here and the interactions with Isobel just before were very nice too. We need more of those kind of things.

So, even if I'm not in act 3 already (but will be soon, and certainly before patch 8), I want to support this thread about the companions'/LI reactivity, at least for the Durge "key moment" OP talked about.
As I said, I know Larian can't fix everything (they are already doing an incredible work with all those patches), so if I have to choose, I would really like them to fix the reactivity in this scene in particular, because I don't want to have my immersion broken.

Thanks

As the new patch is coming closer I'm slowly loosing hope that we will get any changes in Dark Urge storyline. I really hope that Larian will suprise us with final patch notes - the most important thing to me is final scene on redemption path. Lack of companion reactions is painful and, unfortunatelly, immersion breaking.

Getting this fixed is my ultimate dream. It breaks my immersion and my heart so badly.

Yes I completely agree! This is the one thing I keep hoping for each time a patch is released.

Still really hoping this gets fixed. I know a lot of us keep bringing up the moment after Orin, but if I could only choose one moment for more Durge reactivity it would be with Kressa Bonedaughter under Moonrise - it is frankly insane that nobody says a word about Durge being confronted by their torturer.

+1
It really leftme hangig after the big moment. Here's to hope something will change!

I've been really hoping for this to change before I do my next playthrough. It was my only real complaint to what I thought was an otherwise fantastic story line. I'd love to see it have the ending it deserves!

I am another resist Durge fan here to chime in agreement with these suggestions - specifically the final "resist" scene that many have mentioned. This is such a let down for a game that has so much narrative depth throughout (I am regularly delighted, emotionally moved, sometimes devastated by the events in this game). Not only does the scene fall flat in terms of a lack of reaction in the moment, but the post scene comments from companions actually cheapen the gravity of what just occurred for the player's character. Ideally, Durge should have a post event cutscene like all of the origin characters do at the conclusion of their stories, but at the very least have the companions react in a manner befitting of the moment - especially the romanced companion.

boosting this as this is an issue I hope to be changed in patch 8