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Alrik
hmm, stupid question maybe, but, is it possible to by games in English in Germany?

Probably, but I guess they would be imported. Not all games can be found in germany (at least in the original version). They say Half Life had robots instead of aliens (I wonder how a robot facehugger should look).

Kiya and others have said that quite a few games are altered for release in Germany. Especially games where Germany is portrayed as the enemy. Im not really sure what I think of this. Its a complex issue. After all, history is written by the victors. Not that anyone can deny Nazism was bad.

No "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" in Germany for obvious reasons (not that they lose much. It's a fun game untill level 3).
Plus all FPS are 18+. I wonder if Brat games's Breed is 18+. It was a Teen game untill the rules were applied...

Wow, poor poor people <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
So, no MOH? no RTCW? no battlefield 1942, no Blitzkrieg eee what else, no Bloodrayne? and I assume Postal2 has min age of 30 ? Is this really true?

They do loose much. Theese are really great games.
Btw, I play MOH Spearhead MP quite often and enjoy it.

Actually I can't understand this.

And the rest is with green/no blood patches and bad translations, I guess. At least german games rock so while they don't have MOHAHAH... I mean MOH:AA, they still have nice games.

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Sorry, but that´s the greatest [nocando] I´ve ever read here in this forum.

The reason why games like "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" and other WW2 games were altered is that any Nazi-Symbols are NOT allowed in Germany. So the developers have to cut out those graphics. It is a political reason, based on the Allied decisions after WW2.

It has nothing to do with who´s the bad and the good guy in a game. We are used to see Germans as bad guys in WW2 movies and games and we accept it because we know of the terrible things the nazis did in that time.

And we DO have all those lovely games mentioned above in Germany (RtCW, MOHAA, ...) We can even buy the original versions. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

So you do have Saving Private Ryan movie?

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Yes, I would say we´ve got almost any WW2 movie here (even the old US classics from the 60s).

Then it's great! :0)


Ah and Mandrake: what America has against nudity, Germany has against violence. Which means you don't have to be 18+ to buy those magazines <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

Is it true that gaming mags are 18+?

Hmm this is interesting some great games mentioned. I'd have to say my list would be:

1. AutoDuel (for Atari, the best game ever made!)
2. Final Fantasy 3
3. Morrowind and expansions
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5. Wizardry 8
6. Draken (too much fun riding a dragon around spewing out elements)
7. Baldur's Gate Series and expansions
8. Might and Magic (where it started for me, nostalgia)
9. Wizardry 4 (was really hard from what I remember though I could be wrong)
10. Starcontrol 3 or any Carmaggedon game

I sure wish they would do something like Autoduel for PC jeez that game was nuts!

Dunyain

I came to a realization: I left Daggerfall of my "top" list. Well, if you look somewhere on the first page, you'll see I didn't really make a list, just named lots of games I thought where good, but "Daggerfall" (after the patches), should definitly be on there.

Has anybody mentioned the "Championship Manager" series of games.Football manager games are very big in Britain and most of Europe, and since i've had my pc i reckon these games have kept me up at night the most by far, and so i would put it at my No.1 slot.

yep the championship mananger.
now those games just are soo addictive. i see it as an RPG!
i never play it because the biggest reason to play it, is that you have to love football <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
but i know of some friends who does. one time he just played the whole night . then realised he had to go to work..and when he was home..gess what? he played again!

one word -> addictive

Yes, imported ones <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> and those which aren't translated.

Nowadays, in part, yes. Since a month or so ago we here in Germany have a new law saying that things with much violence must not be sold to younger people, especuially games.

So, producers of magazines have to a) put a sticker on it "not to be sold to people younger than 16" (was it 16 ? I think so) , b) withdraw any sign of violence from their mags, c) allow articles about violent games only to subscribers (that's what most gaming mags did, and - alas ! - we don't have many gaming mags here in germany !

Nazi symbols are NOT allowed in games, but ARE in movies - I don't exactly know why, but the law says that movies are more works of Art, but computer games are not. And for art this is allowed. (Indy Jones movies, for example.)




Exactly. Violence is for the majority totally unacceptable, for example (I'm speaking of the overall majority of inhabitants in Germany). People in germany generally are often simply not able to understand why guns are so widely spread and allowed in the U.S. . For us, that's not tolerable.


My article presented in the RPG Chat Thread about Icewind Dale I arose from the ttypical german point of view that violence as a means of solving problems should not be propagated in games.

Needless to say nobody understood me.


You see, these are two different cultures, totally different at least in these two points.


And that's why the Germans were so against the war against Iraq - it was unneccessary violence to many of us here, driven only by economic interests (just two points : Almost all oil in the Iraq is now being sold to U.S. companies - not to the people of Iraq themselves ! And - at the time the national museum was plundered, the only national building guarded by U.S. forces was the Ministry of Oil. If Germans had to guard, it wozuld have been vice versa.)

Mate, I understand your point of view. It's just I have a different point of view on thigs, that's all.

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Did you know that there have been many divorces in England put down to "championship Manager"....Mmmmmmm now there's an idea!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />