Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion There must be more true friend companions in the game who support you no matter what

That 1) It's not unconditional love 2) It doesn't require the waifu to acknowledge their existence

It is parasocial. Since a fictional character can not have feelings for you. Only one person has feelings and that is the observer of the media.


These things are also not required.

Again, people call random anime characters that never interact with them directly, waifus.

Waifu's and Husbando's are not always receptive characters. In fact, they mostly are not.

Making a waifu rarely even has anything to do with writing. Just making a sexy character is enough for people to claim waifu.


You're the one that brought up terminology. Complaining about someone elses "Wrong understanding of the term waifu"

When clearly, you have no concept of the meaning of the word in the slightest. You're trying to force its meaning to be this idea you have and then express that this is a very popular idea because of the terms ubiquity.

A waifu is a fictional female character that a person has feelings for. Often romantic or sexual. That is it. There is nothing more to it than that.

There's no semblence of the character being good, having feelings for the person, or even interacting with them in any way, shape or form. They just exist in their media and people will call them waifu if they are attracted to them.


No, you missed the point.

The book was ONLY popular as it was a mainstream insight into a taboo.

As characters, everyone in the book is shit. Even as BDSM writing, the book is shit.

Literally, the ONLY thing it had going for it, was that it became mainstream and much of that was because it touched on a taboo.


People REALLY like these characters. Explicitly so.

You can hand wave "Oh the game is popular" but no, these character in specific are adored.

You can go literally anywhere that discusses the game and find people gushing about how much they love these specific characters and their writing.


Yes.

Though I'm not sure how that relates.

People have individual tastes. Just because you, one individual, dislikes something - Which you yourself have said that your personal opinions are a minority opinion, doesn't mean that the company failed in writing characters, when most of the characters (Basically everyone besides Wyll and Halsin) are very much well received.

I mean, personally, I really hate how Gale and Astarion are written. But again, these are still very popular characters. With Astarion being so popular that these official forums have had to do futher moderation because almost every thread was being derailed with people gushing about Astarion.


I still don't get how you've gone so far and only NOW are actually getting to see any interactions with Lae'zel or Shadowheart.


Only if you literally go up to them and talk with them. For which there is no reason to as they don't have any unique dialogue or interactions.

If you simply play the game with them, they use regular player character voices not Withers voice. Meaning you can play through the entire game with just Hirelings and never hear Withers voice from them at all even a single time.


That's because your "Arguments" are "I don't like them because they don't fit my personal tastes, therefore they're bad characters and Larian sucks and can't make any characters and I hate them"

Meanwhile, many people like these characters.

They like that Lae'zel is combative. It fits her character because she's a Gith. You then throw out some nonsense arguments about "Modern Personalities" but no, she's Gith. She's a magical alien race. She happens to be consistent with all established lore regarding the magical alien race. Which is that they're extremely savage and xenophobic. Lae'zel is different to most Gith in that she's naturally kinder and more caring. This creates an interesting dynamic where her nature to want to care is constantly battling against the brutal upbringing she had and the expectations of the society of her race.

They like that Shadowheart is bitchy. It fits her character because she was captured by Sharrans at a young age and had her mind wiped and was indoctrinated into being a Shar worshipper. They also like that you can take her on a journey to rediscover her true Selunite identity as well as all the little things where her true identity peeks through the indoctrination. She is a troubled soul, one who was taken from her family to be part of a cult and literally brainwashed into serving the cult.

These are deep and well written characters. They go through development as their world view gets utterly shattered by events in the game. Lae'zel finding out the betrayal of Vlaakith and the lies perpetuated by her about ascension and Orpheus. Shadowheart confronting Nightsong and betraying Shar who then abandons her undoing some of the grasp of her indoctrination.

You just keep throwing out more strawman arguments like, "They have modern personalities" "They remind me of unpleasant people IRL" "They're poorly written" "They're not (My completely distorted meaning of) waifus"

With the most egregious thing being that characters you actually seem to like (Gale, Astarion and Wyll) have exactly the same writing you're critisising Lae'zel and Shadowheart for (With Astarion being oftentimes worse). But these are apparently good because you modded them to be sexy genderbent versions you are attracted to.

Meaning that apparently the litmus test for any game's character writing is... Whether or not YOU specifically deem the character to be visually attractive or not.