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#959808 Yesterday at 02:10 PM
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Hello!

I'm playing through my second campaign in BG3 where I'm trying to be a Durge who's trying to be better - while playing I like to stay in character, so this current campaign is one where I'm being very straightforward and not trying to avoid death 100% like my last playthrough. There is only one issue though: my Lae'Zel attacked me during that little fever bit and after failing the persuasion check, she died.

I wanted to ask my question on here since I've been getting kind of confusing answers by just googling the subject.
I would REALLY like to avoid siding with the emperor because I cannot stand him and I believe his side would go against the overall story I want for my character. However, I am uncertain if I am able to get the orpheus ending with Lae'Zel being dead - and how hard it going to be considering what I've seen online. Most people have written that Voss basically does not show up unless you have her and that if you don't have her when you free Orpheus, it can be really difficult to get him to cooperate with you. I'd also prefer not having to turn into a mindflayer but am uncertain if that's possible without Lae'Zel being there. TLDR: Could someone tell me how they went about siding with Orpheus after Lae'Zel was killed in Act 1.

Thanks so much, this is my first post so I am sorry if there are any formatting issues!

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From my experience, you can go along with either side if you don't have Lae'zel in the party. With Lae'zel however, you have to fignt and kill her if you decide to side with the emperor.
Since "angry alien" (quote Karlach) died before you even got to creche Ylek, you can avoid that place altogether, and there will be no encounters with hostile Githyanky patrols in act 2 and act 3, nor with Voss.
Not sure what will happen if you decide to confront Vlaakith at the creche without Lae'zel though. Will Voss still come to bring you the psionic device ? I've not gone that route.

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yes you can side with Orpheus over the Emperor without Lae,zel in your party... yes the exact steps are tricky because the bigger question is bug or no bug which changes how Orpheus reacts to you


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