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#960358 21/01/26 03:04 AM
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Hello. Yes this is my first post. Apologies if this is an awful noob question.

By way of introduction, I am a veteran of BG1 and completely mad about Planescape: Torment. Because of that game, Githzerai Monk has been my most chosen class in tabletop since 1999, so of course my first BG3 playthrough was as a Githyanki (open hand) Monk. Fucking badass. I waited two years to finally buy hardware to play this game, and have logged 469 hours in less than two months.

I apologize if this question has been asked and answered elsewhere. I HAVE searched.

The Hag refuses to surrender in my latest playthrough. I got her down to ONE hit point and saved. I killed her. I reloaded and let her act for several rounds. She ISN'T silenced. She attacked again and again. She possessed Mayrena with "damsel in distress". I didn't act and just kept getting beaten on. Round after round of doing nothing but taking healing potions. Ethel just keeps casting vicious mockery and taking forever to kill the party.

I gave up and reloaded earlier saves from the fight. Same deal.

I tried knocking her out and taking a long rest (there was a lot of camp drama there, in my first dark urge playthrough omfg 😅) but she was still knocked out in the morning.

Context:

When I first came upon Auntie Ethel and Mayrena's brothers, I sided with Ethel, but immediately attacked her. She disappeared but the combat log said I killed her. I knocked out the brothers. I went to the Teahouse and Ethel was there. I told Mayrena I had "bad news", which was odd because the dialog option then let me say her brothers were alive. Everything else seemed the same as in my other playthrough. Do I need to reload before that encounter and not attack her?

TIA!

geemarcus #960359 21/01/26 03:26 AM
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From what I'm aware, the details of how you get to the fight in her lair are unimportant to obtaining the deal. You simply need to get her below 20% life and let her take a turn for her to surrender and offer you the hair.

My only guess for what is happening is that initial encounter of yours where you "Killed her" may have caused an issue with the game. As she only surrenders as part of her encounter in the lair, having her "Be killed" outside of that encounter may have removed the flag enabling her surrender.

Taril #960360 21/01/26 03:32 AM
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So a glitch. Thank you.🙏 I've reloaded a save from just before encountering the brothers, and am siding with them.

Still not looking forward to the inevitable drama at camp. The dark urge is...something. 😅


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