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I still have some hope, but the prognosis is grim you are right. I will take it in. Thanks all. I will let you know of the results. If the comp turns out to be dead, its just an excuse to build a new system..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thats the bright side of things.


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Alright, alright, mr. Anime-fanboy. Anyone needs a plan B, no? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

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Ok, hey fei hung and death i have to go now, tomorrow if you(fei hung) need more help i can give other suggestions, but i think the principal what you can do is these tests what i mentioned.


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there is another way to find out what's going wrong.
your computer beeps in an interval.
this is NOT a random sound.
it's an code

you find the different codes back in the manual of your motherboard or on the manufacturers site...


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It's very probably a video card failure. The machine beeps a certain number of times when you turn it on as a code to say what is wrong (if anything). One beep is "all okay". Most errors appear on the screen, but if it can't talk to the video card, that would be kind of pointless. Try pulling out the video card and putting it back in. It may have slipped and some of the pins had disconnected or crossed. If that doesn't fix it, see if there's any obvious damage and claim it on waranty.

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haven't read all the replies, but imho the processor is screwed, I can't aimagine a PC not booting for a bad videocard, but then again I'm not a hardware specialist.

look up the beeping code though, it'll explain a lot


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talk about techies in the forum, man are there more than these?

i hope fei hung finds out soon enough on what's wrong with his system.

by the way, some motherboards, or mobo's as some techies called it, have LED codes for u 2 read so u can tell the status of your system. audible codes help but up 2 certain degree only.

whatever it is, it's defintely hardware prob & i hope nothing got burnt. reminds me of my old mobo that blew a few capacitors. some people reported that they took out the blown caps & replaced them. it worked for some.

clogged processor fan can be a b*tch sometimes. so for those who dare open their computer case, better clean up that fan once a month or so if it gets dusty or u'll have 2 get yourself new proc + mobo + maybe even RAM.

hey, deathatthedoor, shyon's ideas are pretty valid. in fact i practised almost the same method. & as for your battery method, it's nice for old mobos which u've lost its manual books. but it's strictly 4 hardware geeks.


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haven't read all the replies, but imho the processor is screwed, I can't aimagine a PC not booting for a bad videocard, but then again I'm not a hardware specialist.

look up the beeping code though, it'll explain a lot



Yes give it to me such a useless pc.


No serious, It's most likely you video card is not attached well to your bus on the motherboard. Those beebs tell you that the PC can not get to your monitor. the worst is that your videocard is busted, but I dought that. Is the cable of your screen attached properly I know silly but it happend to me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

for beep code's check your manual or here


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Hey Fei Hung, say again what's the problem with details, your computer don't appear image? Or appear image and don't boot the system?

For what you said before, you don't have image, so you can try change of video card to test it.

Just one more thing, i know now is late, cause nobody always remember of all details, but if you go to take out your video card and memory or other part, is good you touch the wall first or the ground to take out the static energy what can do damage to the components of the computer, memory is one of the most easy to "frite" with static energy.

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Well, today I will find out what is the problem for sure, I took the comp to the shop, they should tell me at the end of the day. I still think its something to do with the vid card. Here is what the code may mean:
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When I power on the system, it keeps beeping like siren. What is wrong?
The beep indicates hardware monitoring error. Please first make sure the CPU fan connector is correctly plugged into the CPU fan connector, because the CPU fan speed detection is enabled by default BIOS setting; therefore, if no CPU fan is connected to the CPU fan connector, it will beep to warn user. The CPU fan speed threshold set in the BIOS (with date code 12/29/99 or later) is 4000rpm when a CPU with speed 700MHz or higher is used; Otherwise, the threshold is set at 3000rpm. Please check if you are using a CPU fan with proper RPM value on K7M M/B.





But I will find out for sure later on today, so I will post the results.

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So, be cool Fei.


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hey, deathatthedoor, shyon's ideas are pretty valid. in fact i practised almost the same method. & as for your battery method, it's nice for old mobos which u've lost its manual books. but it's strictly 4 hardware geeks.

Yes. My motherboard is 4+ years old and I don't remember where I put the manual.

Good luck Fei!

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Hey Death, isn't for nothing but you can learn the configurations and jumpers on the motherboard, without the manual. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/freak.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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I know 'em. Did I give you a reason to think I didn't?

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Cause you said you lost your manual and use the planB to pass by the situation.

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shyon, if u're like me being a tech in a company, u'll be swamped with so many types of mobo's (not the futurama dude) & remembering which jumper is for what is almost impossible.

so deathatthedoor's battery method is some sort of a last resort when all else fails, at least for me. just that one must remember 2 check the processor voltage & multiplier for BIOS reconfiguration(only for mobo pentium mmx era & earlier).


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So I finally found out what was wrong with my comp - I fried my video card, everything else is intact. So now I have to make a descision, I want to upgrade to a 128M card but which one? Can you guys give me some suggestions?
Thanks again for your help.

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So I finally found out what was wrong with my comp - I fried my video card, everything else is intact. So now I have to make a descision, I want to upgrade to a 128M card but which one? Can you guys give me some suggestions?
Thanks again for your help.

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Fei_Hung, hold on for a second.

Who told you that your video card was fried?
Do this last test please.
Unplug all cables from your computer starting by the power cord to the mains.
Open the case and locate your memory cards.
Unplug each card carefully and completely, reinsert each memory card in again and double check that it is all the way in and secured.

Do the same thing with every card in a slot.
The start up beep alert is usually memory failure of graphics card failure but the beeps sound differently like code. Three beeps followed by a dash of silence, is a code for memory cards.

The reason behind this problem is usually the hot weather, humidity and long time of stillness.
The contacts for some reason break it one or more point.
The procedure I described up usually fixes this problem but occasionally re-soldering the mother board may be necessary under magnification to detect the dry joint defect.

Video cards do not get fried by themselves.
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Well, I tried taking out and reinserting the card a couple of times, however the monitor would still not recognize it, I took the computer into a service center - it is there I was told that it needs to be replaced, I understand that the cards do not just short out by themselves, however I tend to agree with the technitian who looked at my comp, because when it happened I was playing a graphically demanding game (SOFII) for about 5hrs straight and I do not have the best cooling system <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohh.gif" alt="" />. I don't have a reason to distrust the techie who looked at the system. So if I do have to replace my vid card, which one should I go for (I am looking to upgrade to a 128M card)? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />


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