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Is there a way to screw a romance? can you get "locked-in" a romance?, can you romance more than 1 character or only 1 per playthrough?


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You get to choose the partner at the end of Act 2 and it stays for the rest of Act 3. Romance makes it so that they like you by default (instant support, no persuasion) until I assume you really breaks their quests.

Then Epilogue happens and you go kick a dog out of pure rage.

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Originally Posted by Ellezard
You get to choose the partner at the end of Act 2 and it stays for the rest of Act 3. Romance makes it so that they like you by default (instant support, no persuasion) until I assume you really breaks their quests.

Then Epilogue happens and you go kick a dog out of pure rage.


The Epilogue is that bad?

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Ok so before that point i can pretty much go trigger happy with the romances without problems? Are any non companion related relationships considered "romances"?

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You get to choose the partner at the end of Act 2 and it stays for the rest of Act 3. Romance makes it so that they like you by default (instant support, no persuasion) until I assume you really breaks their quests.

Then Epilogue happens and you go kick a dog out of pure rage.


The Epilogue is that bad?


Romance wise, I will say it, in Fane voice too.

It's shit.

Your partner will go from lusting and loving from you to "Haha I joke with you and goodbye! I go my way now you go your way". Even with the prince dialogue, that's more of a joke or anything. It's soulless. It's generic. It's boring. It has no love. It has no life. You don't step on what makes a journey fulfilling and make it feel like you are left behind.

It's like, imagine a scene where a couple must part way at a train station and instead of the dude running after the train as it leaves to tell the girl how much he loves her and will continue to love her, he just turn his back, take out his phone and go on Tinder searching for a new girl straight away before the damn train even leave the station.

Or to take a lover out for one last goodbye dinner and ask him/her to fully pay for it.

Like, WTF. Did someone coat the stair on the way down with slippery oil?

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Ok so before that point i can pretty much go trigger happy with the romances without problems? Are any non companion related relationships considered "romances"?


All you get is a few dialogue in Act 3. That's all. The rest completely forget they love you and just stick with the generic attitude-base dialogue saying stuffs like "YOU CAN SEE AFFECTION IN IFAN EYES" that you have been reading everytime you say "I should go" to him in Act 2.

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Wow that either seems like a huge oversight or like it was tacked on? I mean up until the end of act 2 its seemed pretty cute...save for Red Prince whose romance rubbed me the wrong way the instant he was like naw baby you're the side piece but you should be happy about that! (and it doesn't seem like you can change that at all : I )

Also 10/10 full critique read in Fane's disgusted tone of voice made my evening.

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Well, I would think that of him too but in my attempt to change the scene if you click the second option or so the uh.. " What would she think seeing us?" He basically shrugs it off and said if he saw you with her it would break his heart. I kind of took that as 1. Sadha didn't know about the lil affair business and 2. He didn't want to share. Either of you. xD I guess it might be just me but the entire thing just made him seem rather... Skeevy.

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And so it takes a fantasy world filled with magic and miracles for a powerful emperor to only have 1 wife that he doesn't even have 100% crush on.

The one with Sadha, he always call it "Destiny"
But the one with you, he mention it that he hungers for it and will even use the wine he save for his "Destiny".

Complete slap in the face with generic prepared ending.

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We were even the one to help save Sadha so pretty much own us her lives to begin with, both with protection and with swornbreaker.

At this point, the ending is 100% the reason I don't want to replay the game yet because who likes to invest 80 hours into something they know will slap them in the face with the NTR?

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I doubt it. I thought they got rid of the wife in the release since Sadha wasn't mentioned in Act 1.

Suddenly, she's back.

And she even gave you the NTR ending, the most hated ending in any romance.

Hell, make me the next Shadow Prince, I will dye my char black and make her my new footstep.

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Originally Posted by withpuppys
ntr?


Netorare

When Char A and Char B relationship is built up for like 80% of the game and even commits as a couple.

THen Char C is brought up and A decide to go sleep and wed C instead.

B has been NTR'd, completely defeated by someone the viewers and players don't even care about and even hate.

The ending no one wants in any romance.

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That's the problem. I will have no problem if after the slave joke and you accept, the dialogue go slightly further where you actually get to express the desire to go with him and he express some kind of desire to have you around as well.

The current one with the "You go sleep with Sadha then, I will go on a new adventure." is a cuck move, one where you completely accept the defeat.

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They really just have to add "With you by his side" to the start of the red prince narration and remove the last part.

Add this to every char you commit to and agree to stay with so it goes like

"The red prince" "With you by his side" "blahlbalhlbah"

Done.

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I'm shocked that not more people are uncomfortable with the way the ending plays out? I thought since it was sort of a game of choice there would be some way to change the outcome ovo; I don't blame Ellezard for not wanting to do a replay. Personally I really like the Red Prince and after having some NTR sensor tingling restarted the game to not ...do...that.

Edit: I mean with all the epilogues like that it really blows.

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Originally Posted by Ellezard
We were even the one to help save Sadha so pretty much own us her lives to begin with, both with protection and with swornbreaker.

At this point, the ending is 100% the reason I don't want to replay the game yet because who likes to invest 80 hours into something they know will slap them in the face with the NTR?

Yea, recently played through the game one more time. What a great adventure, dragged down by the ending so much.

You know what? I'm personally cool with... being a third wheel and what not. I don't mind Sadha, she's fine.

I think, it would be at least an unusual dynamics, not something you see in games often. Quite interesting to see.
I'm fine with the idea that Red Prince was mentally conditioned from birth to seek his destiny (both him and Sadha) and whoever in the empire was responsible for shaping them as political tools - did a very good job, ensuring they won't sway from what have been prepared for them.

BUT

If it was done properly. If in the nightmare dialogue Red was like "Of course you are my destiny, Sadha, and I will be glad to be the ruler of the empire and father of dragons alonside you. However, during our long time apart from eachother, I might have not been... entirely faithful to you..." (nods at player avatar character)
And Sadha be like "Oh, don't worry about it. As a future emperor, it is your right to have any woman you desire. I've never expected to have all of your for myself alone. Not with all those legends of your bedchamber conquests, with demons and what not.
I am most sure, you've made a finest choice, and we will get along with her just fine together in the royal palace, if that's what you're up to. I just hope you won't get carried away enough to forget about your actual empress, and her dragon kids..."

And then in the epilogue
"So... I am returning back home. Will you go with me, to live in the luxury of golden city, beside me and Sadha? We might even give you some court title, if you prove yourself capable enough. But even if you don't - just having you as a companion is still something that would brighten my day... adequately enough"

Or something like that. Somewhat reasonable polyamorous relationship, I guess. Not unheard of.
But if being immediately reduced to a slave, even if you're a fellow lizard - yea... no... One final dialogue that... I guess takes all the buildup through the game and throws it away?
And generally not having a race-specific introduction dialogue with Red Prince if you're a lizard and by all accounts shouldn't be a slave by lizard rules - sounds like a terrible overlook in a game that is kinda famous for accouting for so many possible player choices.

Eh. Sadly, it is what it is. Romance part and it's effects on the ending been very well improved in BG3, and now I can only hope that new Divinity game Larian have been cooking will have a character as great as The Red Prince. I really like the guy. Very unusual for a companion, and very interesting not just for "what he is" but also for "why he is". That one guy, who gets kissed by the goddess when they first met, and told that modesty doesn't suit him. Which is still not enough for the goddess to buy his loyalty, he kinda sees what she's up to, and merely plays along, for as long as it's convenient.

Playing AS Red Prince feels quite nice as well, but... in this case guess I'm out of suitable romance options, even though all of them are... "just here", brief and nowhere to really lead to.

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