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Posted By: Raze graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 21/09/03 12:15 AM
If you do not have an image editor, there are several very good freeware programs you can use. For simple image cropping or re-sizing, you can try IrfanView or XnView. More elaborate editing (layers, etc.) can be done with Pixia or the GIMP.

However, the image viewers have limited editing features, and the full blown editors have a steep learning curve. There is no really great freeware program for adding text and shapes (circles, arrows, etc) to screen shots, but I did find a couple decent, easy to use programs. I downloaded about 10 programs, mainly looking for a straightforward interface and the ability to add text. Depending on how good the description looked, I may or may not have discounted a program for lack of support for png files. This is the format Divinity uses for screen shots when patched, otherwise it uses jpeg. Both IrfanView and XnView have screen capture abilities, which can be used during conversations (the in-game screen shots are disabled then) and have a configurable output file format.


Disclaimer: I didn't read any help files, except to check a couple minor points. There may be options I missed or easier ways to do things. For that matter, I may have missed an appropriate program entirely. I tried adding text and shapes to an image, cropping and saving, but nothing much more elaborate.

Comments follow, and below that is a comparison of the quality of the jpeg files produced by all the relevant mentioned programs.


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EVE162KB
GeneralThis is a very small, powerful vector based program (meant for creating diagrams, not pixel editing). It can import bmp, gif and jpg (see FAQ), and copy the result to the clipboard.
Unless you want to do something fairly elaborate with a screen shot, though, other options would be easier to work with.
TextIt can add standard text (with various orientations), and supports some html tags (for tweaking the text style in a section of the text without having to place separate text objects).
ShapesSince it is vector based, there are a large number of shapes, etc and everything remains editable, movable, scaleable and tweakable.
Cropnone
Undo/Redono, but not really needed
Editnone
JPEG SettingsN/A



Painter497KB
GeneralThere is no warning if you have not saved your work when closing the program or opening a new file.
TextDepending on the font/letter, a small portion of the character on the far right of the text might be clipped.

Normal text defaults to black, which may make it had to see on darker images, but you can open the text 'gadget' before the image and change the colour, font, size, etc.

There is also an option for gradient text, with definable colours and orientation. The gradient text box is re-sizable (unlike normal text) so narrowing it (the cursor changes to double arrow on the right edge of the text) will break the text into multiple/more lines and widening it puts it on fewer/one. If you need this ability for 'normal' text, you can set the beginning and end colours the same.

There are many options available by right clicking on the text, which can be moved around. You can 'paint' the text onto an image and still keep the floating text box to be used again, even on another image.
ShapesThere are lots of 2D and 3D shapes (with variations), which are very configurable.
CropYes, though the selection box does not stay visible after it is drawn.
Undo/Redomultiple
Editvarious tools, effects and filters
JPEG SettingsThere are no options under 'Save As', but in another menu option (or hit F5) there is a real time preview of the jpeg output, with a slider to change the compression level (no exact numbers shown). The resulting file size is displayed as you adjust the compression.



Ultimate Paint1.9MB
GeneralThe free version of this program can not open png files, so screen shots from Divinity would need to be converted to bmp (IrfanView/XnView can single or batch convert graphics).
TextYou can type and change the colour/font/size directly on the picture. As long as you do not hit enter, you can click somewhere else to move the text.
Shapeslines, arrows, arc (set the end points, move the section between them)
Circles are drawn from centre to edge, rather than needing to click and drag to opposite corners of an imaginary box around where you want the circle (like other programs).

These shapes can be continuous, dotted every certain number of points, or made up of a specific number of points (ie so you could put 12 points in a circle, etc).
CropYes, though the selection box does not stay visible after it is drawn.
Undo/Redo1 level
Editresize, mirror, rotate, various filters and edit tools
JPEG Settingsno options



Yildun Scanner1.5MB
GeneralIn the colour picker, the default palette uses the colours from the picture, plus there is a colour spectrum or custom colour option.
The last used colours are not saved when you exit the program.
TextYou can move the text around, then right click inside the text box to place, or outside to cancel. The standard font / size / colour options are present.
Shapesrectangle, circle/oval, line
There is a preview as you make the selection, but the shapes can not be moved or adjusted before placing.
CropThe selection box can be moved after drawing, but not resized.
Undo/Redomultiple
Editcolourize, resize, colour depth, edit tools
JPEG SettingsThe quality setting is in the options, rather than the 'Save as' dialog. It defaults to 100, which the jpeg format doesn't usually handle well (produces large files with little or no visible difference compared to a 90 or 95% quality level).


Other programs

IrfanView can add basic text, though you have to draw a selection box first where the text gets added, so you may need to undo and try again to get it right. XnView lets you move the text around and click to apply. Pixia and the GIMP can add text, which is movable (they also both support layers), and Pixia has various options to resize / rotate / skew the text. As far as shapes go, Pixia has line / rectangle / circle / polygon / spline curve selection options, which can be moved and resized after placing. You can easily stamp a line at the border, or fill closed shapes.

Since I am comparing the output quality of the above mentioned programs with the shareware program CompuPic, I will describe the relevant features.

CompuPicThere are three versions of CompuPic (Pro 6MB / standard 3MB / Express 2MB).
TextThe standard version can add text which is movable, editable and re-sizable until it has been placed, and also has a cartoon style talk/thought bubble option. The pro version adds text opacity and the use of an image as the text 'colour', as well as a configurable shadow and three outlines. Text outlining (for example, a light outline around dark text) makes it easier to see text on backgrounds which change colour, but I have not found that feature in a freeware program.
ShapesThere are none directly, since it is not a paint program. However, various symbol and wingding fonts have characters which can be used for this purpose (though thicker characters, or those with shadows, etc do not look great when significantly enlarged).
CropVery nice. The selection box is movable and re-sizable. The dimensions are displayed in a tool tip when the cursor is over the selection, and the height or width is shown as you resize it. The exact position of the upper left and lower right corners are shown while moving the selected area, or when re-sizing from a corner. Also, you can zoom in and move the image around for exact positioning. The area outside the crop section can optionally be masked.
Undo/Redomultiple
EditThere are many effects, adjustments, tools and filters. Like IrfanView/XnView, there are no pixel level editing tools.
JPEG SettingsThe Pro version has a very nice, configurable, real-time preview to show the resulting image quality, file size and signal to noise ratio for a given setting. The original and jpeg are displayed side by side and you can zoom in and pan around, or do an A/B comparison between the two (switch back and forth).



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[*] Image Quality of the JPEG output


I saved a section of a scan as a bitmap, after adding some symbols, lines and text. Then I saved this in Photoshop 5 LE at the lowest quality setting (compared to other programs, Photoshop's 0-10 scale covers only the upper range of what is possible for jpegs). Later versions of this program are suppose to be more aware of the constraints for web graphics, but I believe they still tend to produce large jpeg files.
After this, I saved the bitmap in each of the mentioned programs, choosing a setting to give the closest possible file size to that of the Photoshop jpg, so they could be compared on an equal basis.

Here is a png file showing all of the results; JPEG Quality (404KB). Unfortunately reducing it to 256 colours caused minor artifacts, so it is a little large. There is no visible difference between the original and png file, and any differences I could not detect are the same for the whole image and much less than the differences between programs.

There was not much variation in quality. I guess few people write their own jpeg encoders/decoders when there are sources available for free.


ProgramImage QualityJPEG settingComment
CompuPic

good

77%

There are artifacts around the blue symbols, though the lines remained bright and sharp. There is no significant difference in the background, just some very minor, barely noticeable blurring (due to how jpegs are compressed, that is pretty much unavoidable).
Ultimate Paint

good

pre-defined

There are artifacts around the blue symbols. The red symbols and blue text appears a bit darker than the original, though most of the lines are clear. It is slightly fuzzier than CompuPic.
GIMP

acceptable

90%

There are less artifacts in the blue symbols compared to CompuPic, but that is because the lines and text are a little blurry. The lines / text are also a little darker than the original. The background is fairly good, with minor blurring, though the dwarf's beard is darker than the original.
IrfanView
XnView

acceptable

90%

These two programs use the same jpeg encoder, and produce exactly the same (byte-for-byte) jpeg files when using the same settings. The quality is pretty much the same as the GIMP. The blue xi (Greek symbol that looks like a curly E) is slightly clearer.
Painter

acceptable

about 90%

The quality is pretty much the same as the GIMP, possibly just a tiny bit clearer.
Photoshop

poor

0

Very blurry lines and text. This was definitely not optimized for the best quality at a reduced file size.
Pixia

acceptable

88%

The quality is pretty much the same as the GIMP, possibly just a tiny bit clearer (equivalent to Painter in quality).
Yildun Scanner

acceptable

88%

The quality is pretty much the same as the GIMP, slightly worse.


To show the variations in quality and file size using the same quality settings (not all program use a similar scale), I saved a small section of a screen shot as a bitmap, then saved it each program at 90% and 70% (9 and 7 for Photoshop). Ultimate Paint can not vary the quality, and I had to approximate with Painter, since it just has a slider. Converting the png files to 256 colour made no visible changes in the image, so the file sizes are smaller;
quality setting: 70% (35KB) and 90% (34KB).


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[*] Conclusions

Unfortunately, there is no perfect program to do everything in one step. If you don't mind slightly larger file sizes to get good quality, Yildun Scanner is probably the best single option. Other programs have different features, though, which you may prefer. If money is not an issue, check out CompuPic.

Ultimate Paint has the best image quality (other than CompuPic), but the settings are not adjustable. It uses a reasonable setting that is good when text is being added to an image (which is more susceptible to compression artifacts and blurring than photographic type areas). There are various graphics, however, which can be compressed quite a bit and still have a good or acceptable quality at a much smaller file size, which this program would not be able to do.

I've always saved as a tif/bmp after editing an image, and then cropped and saved as a jpeg in CompuPic. This allows me to make adjustments to an uncompressed version if needed (though large tiff files might not last long once I am happy with the jpeg file), and I have found these steps easier to do in CompuPic, as well as giving better quality. Something similar can be done with a combination of freeware programs, though the added flexibility and options result in a more complex procedure.
make a site out of it ^^
Wow, nice research. Two questions though. I use Fireworks, it has layers and saves in PNG (with the layers). The bitmap I edit is in one layer and the text is in another layer. When I save them I still have them both separate and not merged as is the case with BMP or TIFF.
Q1: Do these tools support layers?
Q2: Is there a preview when saving as JPEG? So that you can see the effects of changing quality?
Posted By: Raze Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 21/09/03 12:56 AM
Only the GIMP, Pixia and Photoshop support layers, and none save layered png files, that I know of. Actually, I didn't know the format supported that.

I offered to look for alternate programs for someone finding Photoshop level programs a bit complex, so was not considering those that supported layers, other than Pixia and the GIMP which I had referred to before, and Photoshop for comparison (they were having problems getting reasonable sized, good quality jpegs in Photoshop Elements).

Only CompuPic and Painter have a preview saving as JPEG, though later versions of Photoshop should as well.
Yeah Raze.
Some job.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
Nice job Raze <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
I'd say: make this a sticky Lynn!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
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Only the GIMP, Pixia and Photoshop support layers, and none save layered png files, that I know of. Actually, I didn't know the format supported that.

Yes, it also can store the hotspots you create and sliced images if the software supports that. For those not knowing what they are, hotspots are regions in an image where you can attach a link to and sliced images are a way to cut one big image into several smaller ones, which for webdesign is a great thing.
Posted By: kiya Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 21/09/03 11:00 AM
Thanks a lot, Raze, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> I've bought Photoshop Elements and now CompuPic <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> - CompuPic is indeed very easy to use and shows high quality for my needs. So I won't work with XnView anymore. I like the way I can tamper with text/fonts there - converting into jpg is great due to zooming in and seeing details - I don't have to figure out what those stupid icons do, I have everything by right clicking - a great online help and a wonderful manual (256 pages).

So I'll simply use Photoshop when I need circles/arrows etc.
I paid EUR 100,- for Photoshop Elements 2.0 and EUR 48,- for CompuPic 6.2 Pro = this one is worth every cent.

Kiya, playing around again
Great job Raze and thank you, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
Photoshop <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> i love my copy
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So I'll simply use Photoshop when I need circles/arrows etc.

I can't believe it. You use the better program for... Honestly, to me this looks like someone would use a digitalcamera for putting nails in the wall. It works too, but you can do so much more with it....
Posted By: kiya Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 22/09/03 09:02 AM
I know, Marian - but transforming into jpg is not very good in Photoshop Elements - I've tried it. And although I've got several books here to explain this program = I'm lost. Compupic is easier for me - though I like these PH-arrows <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I just need this stuff for screenshots, nothing else.
Kiya

Example: Raze sent me a Compupic jpg with about 90 kb, to have at least this quality, I needed 139 kb in Photoshop! I got a bitmap from him and the jpg in Compu - to get the same quality I needed as much kb as the bitmap had!
Compu.jpg had 3.13 kb and the Photoshop Element had 17.1 kb.
I don't need all this fancy stuff in the larger proggie for my needs.
[Linked Image] [Linked Image]
the first one is Compu (3211)
the 2nd one is Photo EL (17573)

Errhm - and about nails and the wall: A shoe helps sometimes - same goes for a screw: I prefer knives <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
I guess you'll laugh at me now, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> but there is a version of MS Word, where you can make pretty good arrows in it. I've used it.

If you look at my Review of Age of Wonders 2, you'll se another example : arrows made by WordPefect's program Draw. It was a hassle, though, not as smooth (in terms of usability) like the word-version, but I do not have word at home.

Just paste the picture into MS Word, and then use the drawing function. You have lots of arrows there, and you can rotate and bend them there, I think. Powerpoint has arrows, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I'm crazy, not ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Lynn Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 22/09/03 12:34 PM
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I guess you'll laugh at me now, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> but there is a version of MS Word, where you can make pretty good arrows in it. I've used it.


And for small arrows go to Insert/Symbol et voila, some small cute arrows <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Word isn't really a drawing program, but you can indeed adapt images with it.
I just have my photoshop 6 license from school... So I'm in no need of such tools gna gna gna ....
paint usually does the trick for me, and for transparancy I use MS photo editor
I must admit that i don't know about Elements but if it's not completely different from the normal version then transforming anything into a jpg should be easy. You open your image and then you choose from the File-menu save as and look for .jpg in the rollout. Then you get a quality/filesize-slider where you can make a .jpg any size you want.
Posted By: kiya Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 22/09/03 09:45 PM
Correct (slider and numbers) - but in order to get the CompuPic result, I need far more kb in Photoshop Elements. Please, look at the small images.
Kiya
Amazing!!!
here are 2 more freebie graphic viewer/editor programs for perusal, trial & use;

FreshView 5.4 from FreshDevices. need registration though but it's free. this one's a viewer.

PhotoPlus 6 from Serif Software. also need registration but it's free. this one's an editor.
First off, like everyone else said: Fascinating work and reasearch. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

But I have a question about the programs.
Can any of them edit/create moving .GIF images? I've been looking for something that does that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Killerzzz
Posted By: Raze Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 03/11/05 08:33 AM
CompuPic can crop and edit (colourize, etc) animated gif files, but does not let you isolate individual frames. IrfanView can not edit animated gif files (you can stop the animation and then edit that frame), but it will let you save all the frames as individual images. In a quick look, neither program appears to be able to create animated gif files from a group of images. This is not surprising, since adding support for layers would make the user interface a lot more complicated and change the category of these programs (from image viewers that can do a fair bit of editing to images editors), which would require adding a lot more features. Pixia is an image editor, but does not support gif files at all.

The GIMP was designed to handle layers, and can open animated gif files with each of the frames as a layer, which you can then edit and manipulate separately. If you create or open a new layered image, it can be saved as an animated gif file.


A program specifically designed for gif animations may be easier to use. Check out Ulead Gif Animator (the last freeware version is available here) and Movies (from the author of Painter, reviewed above). I have not tried either program.
Wow, thanks for the info! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

I'm gunna try out those last two programs, and maybe GIMP.

Thanks again,

Killerzzz

P.S.: If I have a suggestion about the forum website, do I post it in this section, or Divine <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> suggestions. I was just wondering, because the 'About this website' section seems for the more serious stuff, and not miscellaneous ideas. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Raze Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 04/11/05 06:42 AM
If it is about the forum itself or the website, then it belongs in this forum, rather than either game suggestion forum. Even if the topic is not directly about the website (say, about graphics programs or web hosts for avatars), then it would fit better here than any of the game specific forums. Of course it it is unrelated to either the site or games, it goes in one of the chat forums.

There have been topics with miscellaneous suggestions here before, but the default view of the 'About this website' forum is to show only topics from the last month in the index, so you would need to either change that (this option is shown near the bottom left of the index page) or search the forum in order to find them.
Posted By: Raze Re: graphics programs, for editing screen shots - 21/11/05 09:30 PM
I came across a few mentions of graphics programs recently and decided to check some out. Below are summaries of two new programs, as well as more detail on Pixia and the GIMP.


For the image quality test I no longer had the original image files, so had to make comparisons using cropped sections of the png file I had created to show the previous results (there were no visible differences between the original image and png version, as I mentioned in the original post).

In both Pixia and the GIMP, saving the recreated original image as a jpeg produced slight differences in image quality, primarily with the red symbol in the top right corner (at actual size, the symbol appeared to be a little blurred), and to a lesser extent the green lines in the top left and blue symbols in the bottom left (though even zoomed in by a factor of 10, these differences were still minor). With the GIMP, the blue text was also slightly darker than the original jpg file, though that was not really noticeable unless the images were zoomed in.
CompuPic did a much better job with the recreated original image, producing a jpeg file visually the same as the first one. Even when zoomed in by a factor of 50, there were no detectable differences between any of the lines, symbols or text.

The fact that CompuPic can save the recreated original image as a jpeg virtually identical to one from the original means that any errors introduced by converting it to png and back to bmp are visually undetectable (as expected, since png is a lossless format). I am not sure why Pixia and the GIMP didn't do better, except there may have been changes to their jpeg encoders (with the same settings as used originally, Pixia produced a jpg of the same file size, while the GIMP produced one half a KB larger).
In any case, the results using the recreated original file are close enough to the previous results that it can be used to make valid comparisons with the first set of programs.



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PhotoFiltre1.5MB for the program, up to 10MB for plug-ins, up to 6MB for optional selections, masks and patterns
GeneralThe help file is not very detailed, but there are tutorials and a forum on the website.
TextText is editable, adjustable and movable until you choose to place the text, cancel or select a different paint tool. In addition to the standard font options, text can be flipped, stretched, blurred or rotated to any angle, with an adjustable opacity and optional drop shadow (of configurable colour). An image can be used for the text rather than a solid colour, and it can have either a beveled edge effect or an outline of configurable colour. Unfortunately the width of the outline doesn't seem to be adjustable, but thin should be fine in most cases.
Shapescircle/oval, square/rectangle, rounded rectangle, rhombus, triangle, polygon, lines/arrows, lasso
There are also many custom shapes that can be downloaded (or created) and used, including stars, arrows, talk balloons, etc, though you need to go through the Selections menu to resize or rotate them.

After a shape is drawn, you can move and resize it, or even change what shape it is (ie draw a rhombus, then change it into an ellipse). The rectangle shape is the only one that can be resized directly with the mouse cursor, though you can change a triangle (for example) into a rectangle to resize it, and then change back.

The outline of the shape can be stamped on the image in a configurable colour and width. The interior of the selection can be filled with a configurable colour (solid or pattern) or an image. There is an opacity setting for the outline and fill.

The right click Transform menu options for selections will pick up the background image, rather than just change the selection properties. The main menu Selection | Transform options do not do this, but they are not as flexible as the context menu options.
CropYou can draw a rectangular selection, then move it or zoom in to adjust the size or position before cropping.
Undo/RedoMultiple
EditThis is a full featured (except for layers) graphics editor with support for plug-ins and additional filters.
JPEG SettingsIn the save dialog with the jpeg quality slider, there is a preview button which will list the resulting file size and update the main window for the image (so you can zoom in, etc to preview the results).
After saving, the displayed image reverts to the previous quality, rather than that of the jpeg just saved, so may not be accurate. This should not be a problem, however, since it is never a good idea to save as a jpeg and then keep editing (always save intermediate steps in a lossless format).
JPEG QualityImage quality is pretty much equivalent to Pixia.



GraphicsGale3.3MB
GeneralThis program was designed for creating animations, but the freeware version does not support gif, ico, cur or ani files.

Support for layers is fairly basic compared to full blown image editors, but this means the user interface is not complicated by layers, and they can be easily ignored if you do not wish to work with them.

There is a re-sizable preview window in addition to the editing window. You can, for example, show all or part of the image in actual size while you edit zoomed in.
TextText is editable, adjustable and movable until you close the text options window, click on the image outside of the text object or select another paint tool. In addition to the standard font options, you can place a border (outline) of configurable thickness and colour around text, and adjust the spacing between text characters.
There is no cancel button in the text options window, but you can easily delete the text in that window or drag the text object off the image to not add it (or use the undo feature).
If the image has an alpha channel (you can add one if it doesn't) you can adjust the text opacity, but the preview will not show that (you need to place the text to see if you got the desired transparency effect).
Shapescircle/oval, square/rectangle, spline curve, lines
Shapes are set as soon as they are drawn, but for ovals and rectangles there is a horizontal and vertical line from the cursor (crosshairs), which help in positioning the shape.
There are 8 different line types available, consisting of the solid foreground colour or various patterns of the foreground and background colour. Pen thickness and shapes are also limited to 8, which is fairly low, but should be sufficient for most cases if you don't want to get too fancy. As with other graphics editors, different pen shapes can be used to slightly change the appearance and style of a shape (ie a rectangle with rounded corners).
CropThere are crosshairs at the cursor when making a selection, to help you line things up. The selection lines can not be moved to fine-tune the size or position before cropping, however (the lines can be moved, but this will move, resize or rotate the area within the selection).
Undo/RedoMultiple
A cancel button (or hotkey) in more places would be nice, even if it would only save a couple mouse clicks (or key strokes) each time, compared to finishing something and then undoing it.
EditThis program has all the basic editing features for a graphics editor plus a few more, as well as some filters and effects.
JPEG SettingsYou can set the quality and save straight from the save dialog, or click a button to open up another window containing a slider for the jpeg quality, a small real time preview and the resulting file's size. The preview can not be zoomed, but you can pan the image to examine an area with text or other fine detail you want to preserve when adjusting the quality setting.
JPEG QualityImage quality is pretty much equivalent to Pixia.



GIMP3.5MB + 7.5MB for the program, 21MB for help files, 2.5MB for an optional animation package
GeneralWith the GIMP, there is not one main window containing all toolbars, open images, etc. The main window is separate from the layer management window, and each open image is in its own edit window. Each window has its own icon on the Windows taskbar, which you may find either handy or messy.
There is a version called GIMPshop, which looks and behaves a little more like a standard Windows program (I have not tried it).
TextText remains editable and adjustable after being entered, and since it is placed in a new layer, you can move it, adjust opacity or apply filters etc to it.
There is an option called hinting, which alters the selected font outline to help the characters remain clear at small sizes.
Shapescircle/oval, square/rectangle, rounded rectangle, lines, lasso
After making a selection, it can be resized through the 'Select' menu at the top of the image window (or by right clicking the selection on the image). Moving the selection will also move that section of the image.
The 'Edit' menu contains several options to fill the selection (most filters and tools will also be restricted to the selected area) and the border can be drawn with a line of configurable style and colour, a pattern, or a selectable paint tool.
CropYou can make a selection and crop directly from the 'Image' menu, or use the crop tool to draw a resizable and movable box on the image, for more precise positioning. The crop tool pops up an information window (with selectable units) which displays and allows you to adjust the position of the top left corner of the crop area as well as its height, width and aspect ration. The area outside the crop selection is masked (darkened) and you can zoom in for fine adjustments.
Undo/RedoMultiple
EditThis is a full featured graphics editor with a lot of built-in tools and support for additional plug-ins and filters.
JPEG SettingsIn the 'Save as JPEG' dialog there is an image quality slider as well as some advanced options, including text comments. There is an option to show a preview of the resulting image in the edit window (as a new layer) as well as display the file size for the given quality. You can zoom in if you wish, and hide/show the preview layer to compare the jpeg quality to the original.
JPEG Quality(from the original post) There are less artifacts in the blue symbols compared to CompuPic, but that is because the lines and text are a little blurry. The lines / text are also a little darker than the original. The background is fairly good, with minor blurring, though the dwarf's beard is darker than the original.



Pixia3.8MB for the program, 1.6MB for help files, 1MB for optional filters
GeneralThere is an optional magnify window, which will allow you to edit a small portion of the image close up, while still being able to view the main image window.
TextText is editable, adjustable and movable until placed (directly on the image, or in a new layer). Text colour (solid or gradient) and the optional shadow are not shown in the preview before placing the text. In addition to the standard font options, text can be blurred, resized, rotated and skewed. There is an option to create text using the outline of the font; it would be a two step process, but you could use this to put a dark outline around light text, or vise versa, to make it easier to see against a background that changes colour (place the second instance of the text in a new layer, to make lining it up with the first easier).
Shapescircle/oval, square/rectangle, polygon, spline curve, lines, lasso
Selections are movable and resizable after placing. You can stamp a line of configurable colour and thickness at the border and fill closed shapes (optionally with a gradient of the selected colour). The area either inside or outside the selection can be blurred. The transparency of the colour can be set, and there are many 'brushes' that can be used when drawing lines.
The selection stays on the image, so you can use the same outline in different places, or do multiple things with the selection at the same location.
CropAfter making a selection and moving or resizing it, you can 'trim' the selection, copying it to a new window.
Undo/RedoMultiple
EditThis is a full featured graphics editor with a lot of built-in tools and support for additional plug-ins and filters.
JPEG Settingsjust an image quality slider
JPEG Quality(from the original post) The quality is pretty much the same as the GIMP, possibly just a tiny bit clearer.



[*] Conclusions


The original selection of programs, chosen for simple interfaces, didn't offer any great freeware options for adding text to screenshots all in one step. The two new programs reviewed are slightly more complex, but either would perform all the necessary tasks without the steep learning curve of a full blown image editor.

Despite the lack of a detailed help file, PhotoFiltre may be the best freeware option for adding text to images. The interface is fairly clean (looking more like a paint program than an image editor), but it still has all the features you would need for most editing purposes. GraphicsGale has basic layers, without too much added complexity in the interface.

If you want something relatively simple for editing screenshots, I'd suggest starting with PhotoFiltre. If you find it a little complex, then check out some of the programs in the original post, to see which ones may suit your needs without too many limitations. If you don't have any problems figuring out PhotoFiltre, you may want to check out the other programs reviewed in this post, especially if you would like to start doing more elaborate things and are running into limitations with the lack of layers.



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As a footnote, I will also mention FastStone Image Viewer (3MB). It can not add text to an image, except during batch processing, so I did not review it above (and only took a quick look at it). The program has an interface and some features similar to CompuPic; the feature set is not as extensive, but it does some things quite well. There is an 'advanced' button on the jpeg save dialog which brings up a preview and comparison window on par with CompuPic's and much nicer than the rest of the programs mentioned here (image quality is pretty much the same as Pixia). It has a handy image comparison feature not in other image views that I've noticed, as well as standard features like slideshows, screen capture, basic image editing, etc.


Since BD does not have a built-in screenshot function, you can use that feature in various image viewers, or check out these freeware screenshot programs.
Before the crash, I asked how one could take screenshots in Divine Divinity. The answer was Ctrl+F11, correct?
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Before the crash, I asked how one could take screenshots in Divine Divinity. The answer was Ctrl+F11, correct?


if that doesn't work just do it the old fashined way (printscreen+paint) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Yes, I know, but that means: one screenshot, back to windows, back to game, next one, back to windows,... I think you see where I'm going with this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Macbeth for screenshots without dialogs you can use the CTRL-F11. For screenshots with dialogs you must use an other program. Raze mentioned a program name but I forgot it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
Ok, thanks again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
Thank you Raze for all these info & reviews! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" />
I wonder how come PC World or Consumer Reports haven't discovered you yet... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Fille, in the words of some famous super star, Raze might say
- You Can't Afford Me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

but i feel Raze is much better as an online journalist/reviewer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> since he's way too fast for a monthly magazine.
I wonder what he does in real life <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
thx man...sooper stuff <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
http://www.fraps.com/

makes screencaptures, movies and does more, simple tool. Has no editing capabilities tho. Especially developed for capturing and recording games.
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