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Posted By: Rargolkl Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 06/09/03 11:31 PM
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />Dies ist die Plauderei (irgendetwas) Ort, für die anderen Sprachen, außerdem deutsch und englisch; und Holländisch, den ich errate, hat sogar das Französisch sein eigenes Forum gehabt, aber die Plauderei ist irgendetwas das andere Ding für um 50 oder so andere Sprachen. und 99% von den Posten ist auf englisch! Kann dies zu mir erklärt werden? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Dank <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


Rargolkl <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Barta Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 07/09/03 12:12 AM
Salut Rargolkl

Je n'ai rien compris <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
Tu ne voudrais pas traduire tout cela en anglais ?
Barta

OK i understand. But why did you make two different topics for the same question ?
omda da makkeleker is da alles te moen vertoaln tiens
Posted By: Setharmon Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 07/09/03 11:09 AM
LoL

o well... even Klingon is allowed.
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Posted By: Viper Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 07/09/03 12:34 PM
HEHE
^^
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />Dies ist die Plauderei (irgendetwas) Ort, für die anderen Sprachen, außerdem deutsch und englisch; und Holländisch, den ich errate, hat sogar das Französisch sein eigenes Forum gehabt, aber die Plauderei ist irgendetwas das andere Ding für um 50 oder so andere Sprachen. und 99% von den Posten ist auf englisch! Kann dies zu mir erklärt werden? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Dank <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


Rargolkl <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Ich wunderte mich dasselbe...

[^ "I was wondering the same" which was given to me by babelfish. I bet every word except 'ich' is wrong ^.^ . Sadly I am not too far into studying german]

Rargolkl is surprised: despite the fact that this is "Chat (Anything)", most of the posts are in english.
I've had almost seen this coming : There ARE people out there not capable of the English language (even here in Germany ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ) .

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> is an international game, and we have so far agreed to use English as the smalles common thing we al have or know, but now we have run into the problem of non-English-speaking Forummembers.

Also, we would need moderators capable of - for example italian - because we wouldn't want to post members of other languages rubbish we don't understand. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


I think, our belief-system <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> went like this so far :

This is the chat for any language, as far as you can find members of your own language to talk with.

I hope this doesn't sound insulting, but I haven't found a better expression now.
Posted By: Egin Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 08/09/03 10:32 AM
Hmm, but there is chat in German, what's the problem then?

Larian's will not be able to suit everyone. They are doing their best, bringing two languages. Look into any US developer forums - English only.

Ja konechno mogu nachatj zanudstvovatj i trebovatj, pochemu netu foruma na Russkom jazike. (russian).

Voi muidugi oleks küll tore kui saaks ka Eesti keeles foorumis surfata. (estonian)

Let's be loyal, maybe if possibility occures and there will be large demand from lets say French community, Larian will launch french section also.
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As long as there are some members who speak more than one language, I don't see any problem.
I can translate in russian, french and a BIT of german (tiny bit, that is), Egin can translate in estonian and russian... plus we have Babelfish so you can get the basic idea...
Cheers!
Posted By: Setharmon Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 08/09/03 12:54 PM
I'm sure there are enough ppl who know (more or less) more than one language.
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As long as we are able to help eachother... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Alrik has a good point. But creating it is something different. We are a small comunity.
It's not becouse all other forums are only in English that this forum should be the same.
It would be good to beam forth a multi language forum and Larian co.
But is the public big enough? And interested enough?
Creating Italian forums for one or two Italian speaking members? Creating Spanish forums for one or two Spanish speaking members? ... And so on.
I'm all for the idea, as long as it worth it.
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fi:
Drakonis can post in the Dutch forum. And janggut can too if he wants too. With a little imagination Dutch and Flemish ppl should be able to understand him. I guess he didn't thought of that just becouse we are so used to English.



Posted By: janggut Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 08:24 AM
hey seth, thanks for remembering me. sure speaking in malay may sound interesting but any malaysian that can log on to the internet, register him/her self as a forum member & understand the terms & conditions is very capable of english.

**a hug for seth**
**stops & looks at everyone** WHAT ARE U LOOKING AT? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />

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Posted By: Setharmon Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 09:51 AM
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohh.gif" alt="" />
Every Malaysian I know/knew is capable of expressing themselves in English. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I was just sugesting that you have other options. Everyone who knows Dutch and English can understand at least a little malay IMHO.
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Tried to post in russian... *sigh* I do not see it possible to speak in french in "Chat (Anything)". There will always be somebody who'll come and say "WTF". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" /> [Linked Image]
Or:'could someone translate that please.' <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Drakonis Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 12:30 PM
Well it is true what Seth said. I can actually post in the dutch section in my native language and the people can understand me and I understand them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
My home language is actually an old part of Dutch. When I dont know a word I ask and so and to my knowledge of their language and vice versa.
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Posted By: Egin Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 12:59 PM
Yes, as Death mentioned speaking in another language brings frustration and tention among those, who don't understand, even if topic heading says -for russian dudes in russian- <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Btw, in how many languages <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> was released?
Was it released in malaysian for example? I am sure, it wasn't in estonian, and I doubt it was in russian.
So, no point to start estonian language forum section, as there are no estonians playing div in estonian, and those who play speak, or at least read, english. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
I know of German, French, English and Chineese versions (iirc)
There was japanese, thai and russian (not sure about russian being the official version).
Posted By: Jurak Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 09:33 PM
could someone translate this please! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

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you can really learn alot
by watching. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Setharmon Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 09:38 PM
translate? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />

eh... you do understand a little English. Don't you bro? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Or did you mean the title of the topic?

Posted By: Rincewind Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 09:59 PM
Ummmm... couldn't we add a "rule" that anyone posting to a thread in the Chat (Anything) section should do so in the language of the original post? Just stop mixing languages (which confuses me, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />)... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> ** o dear i've broken the rule already... can i get away with a fine for a first offence? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />**
Posted By: kiya Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 10:05 PM
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Rincewind:
o dear i've broken the rule already... can i get away with a fine for a first offence? **



Yeah, of course, I take chocolate, gold, gems, teeth - simply everything <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Kiya

I think it's a good idea to keep the language the first post was in, if it's a thread here. Would be quite a challenge for me to see which languages I still understand <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

German translation:
Klar natürlich, ich nehme Schokolade, Gold, Juwelen, Zähne - einfach alles.

Ich glaube, es wäre eine gute Idee die Sprache, in der der 1. Post war beizubehalten. Wäre eine ziemliche Herausforderung für mich welche Sprachen ich immer noch verstehe.
Posted By: Rincewind Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 10:10 PM
Thanks, Kiya... Hmm...what'll I pay the fine with... ah! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" /> ** hands over Cohen the Barbarian's false teeth, and dashes off to look for an english thread to hide in **
Posted By: kiya Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 09/09/03 10:19 PM
Woehoe: Thanks Rince, they're made out of diamonds <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> - troll teeth, correct? Worth a fortune.
Kiya
Posted By: janggut Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 10/09/03 04:47 AM
for egin's info, there is no malay version of the game. the version available in malaysia is in english. in fact, almost all games are in english. with exception of some that are in chinese. i know of a friend who plays chinese version of disciples 2.

edit: i don't think there are enough gamers in malaysia that warrants malay version of the game. 2 much work 4 too little returns. i have great fun playing the english version & i wonder if translating it 2 malay will make the game disastrous. much has been lost in wit & tone & double entrendes when the game's translated from german to other languages, that's what i gathered.
Posted By: Egin Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 10/09/03 07:30 AM
Janggut.

The same here, in estonia. Too much work for too few people.

But, let's create estonian forum section, eee just for me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

As for games in Russia, most of them (at least all famous titles) are translated into Russian. But, the translation is horrible. Once, in BG I have seen in inventory next to Bow russian translation (poklon) - to bow. And another thing is actors work.
Translating the game is the same as translating a movie. So, I try in most cases to see the game or the movie in the language it was made to get the full flavour (pls. don't ask about -Seven samurai-) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Setharmon Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 10/09/03 08:33 AM
I couldn't agree more with both of you.

When I see something in another language, that I've seen before in the original English I often go like <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />.
Also, dubbing can be hilarious. They keep the names, currency and so on in the original language while everything else changes, or fi road signs and shop signs are still in English while they speak a different language in the movie. And it's just <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> to see fi Indians or Chinese "talk" German or French or Dutch or... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Even subtitles are often a disaster.

Posted By: janggut Re: Warum ist dies fast alles Englisch? - 10/09/03 08:53 AM
i know this isn't recommended, but i bought a pirated movie disc & see what's the big buzz. what i found out was that the subtitles(it's english) has totally different stuff than what the actors say. fyi, the movie happened 2 be 'about schmidt'. it's a sombre movie, well supposedly but after reading the subtitles, it became one of the best comedies of the year.

i guess that's why pirated cd's are so lame...... .
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