When you guys read this, its a fact.
My very first driving lesson <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Wow it was cool <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Only hit 6 people, so don't worry <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Yay <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

thank god you're not driving in belgium <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />

You don't have your license yet JVB?

no offcourse now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
just started my lessons today <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

1 thing I noticed is the small feeling of speed you have; before you know you drive way to hard, like 90 in stead of 80.

Well good luck. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

To you and all people in your city <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Just joking <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

thank god you're not driving in France <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />

I am joking too
I have no driving license. I never could get it. Too bad ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

true barta, thats too bad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

How old are you? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Why not Barta! It´s not difficult, even I have got a driving license... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

we aren't talking about bicycles or swimming here bernhard <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

now the scary thing is, is that in the US, he would have been driving for the last 2 years instead of drinking! now he can vote! there goes the country <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />j/k

I know but driving a car isn´t very difficult, believe me. I´ve got my driving liscense for 3 years now and (thank god) never had an accident or any other serious problem. Believe me it´s not difficult. You have to be very responsible though!

my uncle was very proud that he got a driving licence in Europe, in Germany specifially. Seems over there, accross the sea, they care about how well you drive actually.

Specially on that one road, was it called? auto bon or something, lol.


well, keep on trying JvB, and sometime you'll relise, "hey, that last time, I didn't hit anyone! wow, maybe not drinking that beer before the test WAS a good idea!"

don't forget about the old proverb
'when one gets a driving license one suffers the curse of lazyness'
JvB protect yourself from this curse before you get your license.

I have a licence. I just refuse to get a car. Life is much cheaper and I get a lot more exercise. I had a car for a while while I house sat for my father. I gave it up very happily. I became lazy and started to feel like a taxi.

Good for you; speed limits are for weenies. And most people don't know how to handle cops, either. Most people see the lights in the mirror and calmly pull over to await instructions from the officer.

That's wrong. The correct thing to do is to floor it. Gun it. Make him chase you. Make him work for it. This makes him respect you. But, just for fun, be sure to have your turn signal on, indicating that you're going to pull over. After a few miles, when the confusion sets it, you suddenly whip a 180 and head in the opposite direction.

While he recovers from this maneouver, you pull over, get out of the car, crack open a beer and kick back on the hood without a care in the world. Have your lawyer on your cell phone by the time he catches you, and simply answer every question with "talk to the cell, tough guy."

Works every time. Trust me.

My friend's boyfriend tried that. They sent 8 cop cars and a helicopter after him. Once he pulled over, he was pulled from the car and beaten until he couldn't walk. Thankfully they didn't hurt her as well. Why she's trying to find evidence to keep him out of jail, especially given some of the drama's since then, is beyond me.

i'm like you hef, i've had my liscense for.... almost 5 years? something like that. anyway, i don't have a car. never drive. luckily, there is a bus right on my street that takes me everywhere i need to go. and my boyfriend has a car. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Yeah, I drive Alex's car quite a bit. It's handy given that we work together. Otherwise I walk everywhere or use public transport.

i've my driving license for almost 9 years now but i drove (yes, not drive but drove) for only 2 years or so. can anybody say after me; lazy bum?

my bro drives me to work as we have the same general direction. plus the economical & environmental reasons, all i need to do is help pay for fuel & stuff which is more than fair for me.

a colleague asked me which car i like best, & i answered 63" plasma display.

go figure. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

at lews :
Autabahn yes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
No speedlimits <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

yeah, i promised myself i wouldn't buy a car until i could afford a hybrid, but now i may not be able to keep that promise. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> i need a car if i want the type of job i want.

and why type is it?
sorry for my curiosity <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

something environmental/nature related. like at a nature center or something. i'd even take the zoo. but although i could drive to these places in under 1/2 an hour, the bus takes usually around 2-3 hours to get any of these places. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" /> my city's public transportation sucks [nocando].

I'll drive you there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Its good to be pro enviroment <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

I have had my license for 7 years had a car for 4...
Now that i walk everywhere over here (and lost 10 lbs in the doing) i wonder if it is worth it...mind you...when it is -30 outside...so you want to walk?????

walking is great, but there definitely times when a car would be appreciated! winter is cold.

There's a really cool program in San Francisco called City Car Share that's sort of a compromise between individual car usage and public transportation.
You pay a monthly fee, and reserve one of the fleet cars online whenever you want. When you're done, you just park in one of their designated spots. You don't even pay for gas.

It's a good idea for us because unlike the rest of the planet, we're in deep denial about environmental damage (actually, we know there's a problem, but greed gets in the way of doing anything about it) and addicted to our personal mobility.

Does that kind of thing exist elsewhere? Europe's transportation system is so much better than ours that it's probably redundant there, but I'm just curious.

faile, i think u should get a hovercraft. all terrain for the environmental pirate.

what about a motorcycle? not the big bad harley but something smaller & more agile like what we have in malaysia; 90-110cc engines which is just nice.

or maybe we should just start activating those teleporter stones .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Truth (or may I call you Ugly? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ): There are car sharing agencies around here, too. But it isn't used that much. Germany is (unfortunately) the nation of automobiles, and especially Stuttgart, with Mercedes and Porsche being here. So way too many people use their own cars, and the other ones use the public transportation system.
I've been owning a drivers license for over four years, but I never needed a car. Riding my bike 4km to University and 4km back keeps me healthy. I always get angry at those who use their car for short distances.

I want to thank you all people. I got my licence 2 years ago, bought a car and never drove it. I still use my feet or taxi or public transportation which is really awful here in Greece. But I still can´t drive that car. I am glad I am not the only one. Only in winter I feel that I should get in the car, and drive all the way to work. I hate cold. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> But I can`t do this... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

lucretia: You live in greece?
Cool, I have travveled all over greece last vacation <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
It was great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Really? I am glad you liked it. Next time you came by just drope me a pm. I will show you some special places in Athens <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Cold? In Greece? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Oh sure, people call me ugly all the time and they don't even know my nick.

A couple years ago I was in Munich "for work" and the train system was amazing. It didn't seem necessary to have a car there, which was cool.

I remember all the Mercedes, and it was strange because those things seen as elite cars here, thanks to all that evil marketing voodoo we're bombarded with every day. But even the police cars were Mercedes there. They're as common as Fords here.

Too bad the beer sucked. Germans really need to figure out how to make good beer. And chocolate, too. Yuck.

Do I really need to add a smiley to that?

Well, you should try real German beer instead of the Bavarian crap they call beer there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

why does german beer suck monkey balls? i thought beer is invented by a german genius out of necessity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> that's why they have oktoberfest.

Yeap!!! In summer we have 40oC. So in winter when the temparature falls to 0oC we think that we moved to North Pole... We even get cold when the temperature is about 20-25 oC... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

i will <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
I have been in athens too for a couple of days, visited the acropolis and such <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
It was really nice, but hot though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Ahh hot weather.... My fav!!

In such temperatures, we don´t go to Acropolis <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> We all go to sea <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

And we stay there all day <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

"in winter when the temparature falls to 0oC we think that we moved to North Pole"

So I guess you've never walked up a snow drift onto the roof of a house?
If I ever visit Greece, it would have to be during the winter, and people would look at me funny for walking around with a t-shirt on. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
-40 oC is pretty cold; really cold is when spit freezes before it hits the ground. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

you don't even wanna know how much time I have spent in the sea <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Beatifull beaches <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

raze- and your boogers freeze to your face (those that don't freeze in your nose)!! and your eyelids freeze together! minnesota gets pretty cold too. i remember school being cancelled because of the -60 windchill. thats -15 to you metric people. but then it also gets up into the 90's in summer (40's?), and humid as crap.

hello lucretia, i'll be off to Kos for the third year on the bounce, hot, lovely hotel and great resort, couldn't recommend it enough, made some great greek friends as well, Demetris and Costas who run the Delon bar in Lampi.

"i remember school being cancelled because of the -60 windchill. thats -15 to you metric people."

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I thought it was funny moving to a place that canceled school at -40ºC, from a place where the bus might be an hour late then, if the driver forgot to plug in the second block heater (keeps the engine warm enough to start, for those who live places that don't get below -15ºC or so). During that hour, our lunchboxes would be stuck in the snow bank while we had a snowball fight.

Ya...they don't close the schools in Edmonton, till at LEAST -30 degrees. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I am going back home to 5 feet of snow (at least in Calgary) and -10 or more...it is going to be a 20 degree temp change...brrrrr....

Nope! I have never walked up on a snow drift... We saw snow only the last two years and It was something that we were not prepared to see... And still it never got that much. You know walk out of your house and have to clean the snow in order to leave for work...

Well it will be funny to see you in a t-shirt in the winter <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Hello to you too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Kos is such a beautiful island but unfortunatelly I have never been there. As I said before it is cheap for people from other countries to travel to Greece but for Greeks it is very expensive. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/down.gif" alt="" />

I have been to IOS (great island with over 150 bars. Everyone is drunk there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />)

I haeve been to Agina (it is preety close to Athens and has very friendly people)

Crete is my fatherland. And I love every inch of it...

I also went to NAXOS (There except the wonderful beaches you will taste the most good cheese and you can see the most great .... doors Yes you read correctly old doors to every house which are made by hand and they are considered now as art. You can also se the Great door. It is the place that Theseus returning to Athens damped Ariadne. Men... and Greek ancient mythology)

These are my only travels <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

Hope I will eventually manage to go to Scotland and Ireland one day <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

I am so glad you liked it. Hope you will come again sometime. I will be glad to meet you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

The day of my return will come, I know that for shure <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
I'll let you know when I do <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

talk of sun & beaches (no, not S.O.B), try malaysia! it's safe, so much that it's boring for us locals.

i can be your friendly terrorist..., i mean tour guide. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Please do so. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hi jvb
What's new about your driving lessons ?
How many persons did you kill ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
Will you have your driving licence test soon ?
Will you get a brand new car as a Christmas present ?
Barta

I'd wish <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> (about the present)

I am killing fewer people now, only about 3-4 a lesson, so I'm impriving <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

But my instructor says he won't allow me to go on exam untill 3524 because I can't drive <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

The mean bully <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

don't worry jvb... I haven't met 1 dutch person so far who actually CAN drive

I just think you are still hitting too FEW people. You have to try to hit everybody. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />
Maybe that will work.

everybody <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
That indeed would require some skill <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />