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Posted By: subgenius Sacred Comparisons - 29/03/04 05:01 PM
Anyone else out there playing Sacred?

I picked this game up the other day and I think it warrants a comparison to the Divinity games since it is quite similar in many ways.

I'm only a few days into it but here's my early take on it: I'm having a lot of fun with it and Divinity fans should check it out. What more perfect time to do it than now with the delay of BD? The graphics are beautiful, the gameplay is addictive... And there's some great character classes to play with: for example I'm playing as a Vampiress and when it's night I can change form and summon bats to help me or call on other assorted bloodsucking aids. This character is a great sword fighter as well so it makes for a really a nice balance and a nice change from the strict warrior/mage/ranger/thief paradigm.

Thus far, though, I think that the story is really lacking (maybe it will pick up later...). Sacred doesn't seem to have the character development or innate humor of the Divinity games. I'm having a great time with it but I can't say that the world is drawing me in quite yet (BTW, IMHO the holy grail of story/atmosphere is Planescape Torment and I don't think that anyone will match that one any time soon).

Also, I heard that the North American release of Sacred removed most or all of the blood & gore to gain a 'Teen' rating. GoGamer and some other places offer an import version (still in English) that keeps the gore (the pooling/squirting blood FX are really quite cool <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )

Dennis

Posted By: Cleglaw Re: Sacred Comparisons - 29/03/04 05:55 PM
I bought the game on Friday. Great game. There is a thread on it at RPG chat.
Posted By: The_Pope Re: Sacred Comparisons - 29/03/04 06:06 PM
Yes I'm getting it as soon as it arrives here in Belgium.
Posted By: AlrikFassbauer Re: Sacred Comparisons - 29/03/04 08:01 PM
The Larian Board Sacred Thread (English).

I could post the German thread here too, if you wish so. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Also, I heard that the North American release of Sacred removed most or all of the blood & gore to gain a 'Teen' rating. GoGamer and some other places offer an import version (still in English) that keeps the gore (the pooling/squirting blood FX are really quite cool <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )

Dennis



Yes, normally it's the other way round, at least here in Germany. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Merendrious Re: Sacred Comparisons - 29/03/04 08:09 PM
Played the demo, I didn't found it my type of RPG, a bit to boring in my opinion.
Posted By: Womble Re: Sacred Comparisons - 29/03/04 08:48 PM
A valid point. I find myself yawning a bit at some points but I think that is because I've just started each character to level 10 to get a 'taste' of them. The endless groups of monsters gets a bit repetitive but DD was like what in a few places also. After reading the sacred forums there are a lot of ways to build characters so I belive a lot of 'experimentation' is in order.
Like Diablo 2, the item-hunting is a lot of fun. DD had a lot of 'fixed' items, knowing what you will get after a certain quest/battle has its advantages and disadvantages.
What DD has is more interesting quests and a unique approach to character building. Any skills can be chosen.
Sacred has basically set character stats but messing around with all the skills can give different results. Its interesting, I'm just learning to specialise with each character now.
Both games have a massive world to explore. This is a lot better than Diablo 2.

No specific opinion here as I like both games. I just tried to point out some aspects of each game. I guess I included D2 as well because you can't really avoid it. It was one of the genre-defining games after all.
Posted By: LordMalis Re: Sacred Comparisons - 30/03/04 06:20 AM
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Also, I heard that the North American release of Sacred removed most or all of the blood & gore to gain a 'Teen' rating. GoGamer and some other places offer an import version (still in English) that keeps the gore (the pooling/squirting blood FX are really quite cool )


Actually, I read on the Sacred forum that you can edit the config file to get gore. Just change "Violence=2" to "Violence=1". I tried it and it works. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Womble Re: Sacred Comparisons - 30/03/04 02:20 PM
You serious? They said that was not possible from what I heard. Oh well, got my english version anyway.... I like the case better too! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: LordMalis Re: Sacred Comparisons - 30/03/04 05:47 PM
Yup, I'm serious! I have the US version as well, and after altering the aforementioned file, occasionally my gladiator will hack off a leg leaving a spurting stump. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: LordMalis Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 03:01 AM
Oops, I just read that an updated 1.5 patch has been released to prevent the config alteration. Oh well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: RinoaHeartily Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 03:47 AM
ok.. i have played sacred... being quite active in the sacred board..

i would say.. sacred is kinda fun... horse riding and such.. new in RPG world. And the quest feature very nice (u will be directed to where to go)

i haven't played BD demo, but if BD is gonna be the same as DD, i would say it would be at most equal to sacred.
Posted By: LewsTherinKinslayer13 Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 04:59 AM
at most equal? nay. at least equal!!!


go larian! wOOt! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


play de demo <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: MyDyingBride Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 06:41 AM
I played the demo, but it just didn't appeal to me at all, I know the full version has more characters and everything. Usually if a demo doesn't make me excited about the game, the full version won't either, so I guess I'll just stick to the DD universe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Viper Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 06:46 AM
imho Sacred just sucks bigtime.
Posted By: AgentJ Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 07:57 AM

75% hack-n-slash, 25% questing.

Im about 75-80% through the game with a level 40 gladiator... the storyline is pretty much boring linear.

I find the subquests more interesting... (im not sure if thats a good thing or bad thing...)

*imo*
Posted By: AlrikFassbauer Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 09:52 AM
Rinoa, maybe you've read my name in/on the official Ascaron board ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Dunkman10 Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 12:37 PM
One thing for sure which sucks is that whenever you die you regenerate and continue the game with same skills and equipment.
Posted By: oBosch Re: Sacred Comparisons - 31/03/04 01:07 PM
Well, I only played the demo so far and think that it is a pretty good game.
Not everybody is going to like the game but, people that like those kind of games will. There is one thing that got my attention abou it!!!!

It is the firt game Ascaron Entertainment made a game of this genre, all
of the other games are strategy simulation(you can find the info HERE ) and just for being the first time they do make a game of this type, it is worth
triyng to understand that it is a pretty good game(for all games who like this genre of games).

Any way that is just my opinion, I will buy the game and If the quests are boring, and the storyline are worse, no matter what, I will enjoy the killing of
monsters, cool combos, great graphics, cool gameplay.

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Posted By: Dunkman10 Re: Sacred Comparisons - 01/04/04 08:16 AM
PLayed till 2AM this morning. It's just hack'n slash. Not afraid to die, as regeneration will bring me back at latest starting point.
So bring on BD.
Posted By: Warhammer Re: Sacred Comparisons - 01/04/04 08:45 AM
They are very different games just like Baldur's Gate 2 and Diablo 2 were: Two good games in their respective genres. Why bother comparing apples and ... potatoes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: thenewguy Re: Sacred Comparisons - 02/04/04 08:53 PM
i hear sacred is extremely bugged. nothing that will prevent you from progressing (unless you save) but its pretty annoying. most bugs are with horse/teleport, and multiplayer coop. the new patch apparently doesn't help much
Posted By: GoldyLocks Re: Sacred Comparisons - 02/04/04 09:30 PM
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i hear sacred is extremely bugged. nothing that will prevent you from progressing (unless you save)


But who does not save when playing a game.
Posted By: AlrikFassbauer Re: Sacred Comparisons - 02/04/04 10:03 PM
*Extremely* is a bit too hard, maybe, but there is still quite an amount of bugs, yes.
Posted By: Cleglaw Re: Sacred Comparisons - 02/04/04 11:47 PM
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i hear sacred is extremely bugged. nothing that will prevent you from progressing (unless you save) but its pretty annoying. most bugs are with horse/teleport, and multiplayer coop. the new patch apparently doesn't help much

I have played for many hours on SP and can assure you I have not encountered any bugs which interfere with gameplay.
Posted By: thenewguy Re: Sacred Comparisons - 03/04/04 02:41 AM
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i hear sacred is extremely bugged. nothing that will prevent you from progressing (unless you save)


But who does not save when playing a game.


what i meant was it will screw up your game if you saved while a bug was in effect.

don't misunderstand, i don't think the game is bad, but don't overlook the fact that they may have ignored bugs to rush the game to market.

read this player review over at gamespot:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/sacred/reader_review.html?id=1611486
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Posted By: ritingfool Re: Sacred Comparisons - 03/04/04 04:23 AM
I also have been playing Sacred single-player, and the only bugs I've found are quests that don't initialize properly (the quest icons on the maps don't appear). Other than that, it's been good fun, but I can't wait for Beyond Divinity!

Regards,
Michael
Posted By: RinoaHeartily Re: Sacred Comparisons - 05/04/04 02:10 AM
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i hear sacred is extremely bugged. nothing that will prevent you from progressing (unless you save) but its pretty annoying. most bugs are with horse/teleport, and multiplayer coop. the new patch apparently doesn't help much

I have played for many hours on SP and can assure you I have not encountered any bugs which interfere with gameplay.


well u haven't played deep enough. There are bugs on the subquests.. some of the random bugs u get can't be solved, because of the invalid map pointers, unless u are lucky to bump into the quest items u likely u have it unsolved..

anyway i think it's a nice game with some new things thrown in.. like horse riding and i like particulary the exchange policy of runes that are not ur class or u don't need.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

also u can socket items like rings/amulets or runes to ur equipments..

also not forgetting unlimited levels <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Cleglaw Re: Sacred Comparisons - 05/04/04 04:50 AM
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i hear sacred is extremely bugged. nothing that will prevent you from progressing (unless you save) but its pretty annoying. most bugs are with horse/teleport, and multiplayer coop. the new patch apparently doesn't help much

I have played for many hours on SP and can assure you I have not encountered any bugs which interfere with gameplay.


well u haven't played deep enough. There are bugs on the subquests.. some of the random bugs u get can't be solved, because of the invalid map pointers, unless u are lucky to bump into the quest items u likely u have it unsolved..

anyway i think it's a nice game with some new things thrown in.. like horse riding and i like particulary the exchange policy of runes that are not ur class or u don't need.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

also u can socket items like rings/amulets or runes to ur equipments..

also not forgetting unlimited levels <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Yes. There is an occasional bug with a side quest, but nothing major in my opinion. Naturally I'd like to see them fixed, but the effect on my gameplay has been minimal to none.
Posted By: LUCRETIA Re: Sacred Comparisons - 05/04/04 09:20 AM
I have bought the game this week and I have played all weekend. After installing the game in my pc, I downloaded the latest patch. Up till now there was no problem at all with bugs. I am testing the game with the minimum system requirements and it works fine. It is true that in some things it reminded me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> and in some other Diablo 2. But there are some things that really impressed me.

- The manual was translated in Greek. I found that it was very thoughtful for the gamers.
- Horse riding. There were games in the past that I gave up just because I had to run and run and run and never get somewhere. I found horse riding fun and practical. I also liked the sound that they used for horse riding. Very natural.
- The world map and the quests. Though mini map was not good at all, the world map was IMHO very handy. And I liked that they mark the places you have to go in order to cemplete a quest. RPGS are usually huge games. It is a pain in you know where when you have to look all over a huge map just to find the right small spot you have to go for a quest completion.
- Collect all choice. I liked that too. With one click collect all the goodies <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
- Graphics. I liked them. The waters and the fog looked very nice.
- Price. I bought with Sacred one more rpg. Prince of Qin. Sacred was very cheap. POQ very expensive and sucked. I sure will not play that game. Sacred was on half a price and it is way better.

Well all the above are my personal opinion but I think that in general for a first try of a company is a very good job. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Hunter Re: Sacred Comparisons - 06/04/04 12:02 PM
another remark on this great game is that runs very smoothly on my PC which is an older Dual PIII 633 Mhz with a Geforce 2 Ultra 64 MB. I'm really impressed with the graphics and gameplay. The quests however are quite straightforward and there is a lot of hack'nslash... In the end however : very good game and thumbs up from my point of view. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
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