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Posted By: aida P.C. Player needed to play impossible ending - 29/08/11 02:49 AM
Is there anyone here who is playing this game on the P.C.?

Were you one of the lucky few who completed Dragon-Escort scenario (at the end?)

Would you be able to please play this saved game herewith for this part and then send it back to me?

I thank you so very much!!


http://www.mediafire.com/?hfj9qaukh18iffu
I'm happy to see you've finally chosen to take Raze's advise & post a new thread to ask for help with the ending. I hope you get the response you'd like, I don't want to see people getting banned from the forum but I also don't like seeing arguments on the forum..... or being part of them lol. Just settle down listen to what people heve to say don't spam & help will come when you need it. smile
I have the PC game but the game does not seem to give you an option to save after the air battle. There is one more ground fight afterwards then it's the game end cutscene. Latest save I have is during the air assault round about halfway through. PM me if you need it.

Note there are two slightly different endings to the game depending on who you sided with. I sided with Zanadalor in my game.

Edit: Meant Bellegar not Zandalor

You should be able to save after the conversation with Ygerna (and Behrlihn, if you picked him rather than Bellegar). A save at the end of the dragon escort would be better, to still get the cutscene and conversation afterwards.

Technically there is a difference between not doing one section and not finishing the game, but if you're going to skip the escort (given the relative simplicity of the final fight), the only thing you'd really miss watching a YouTube video of the ending would be getting an achievement. Here is a video of just the escort mission.
think But if he's playing the PC version there would be no Achievement
I don't understand any of this


It is important for me to use my own individual character to complete this


If that save is not convenient, I can send this one; (Right Before Speaking to Augustus)

Will this one do?

http://www.mediafire.com/?jmanxtvxh1j5idx
It's best to complete the game yourself with your own character, yes, as each character is unique to the player's style, what equipment you picked up, stats etc. I'd do what Raze suggested if you can't do it and want to see what happens at the end. However if you do want a save you can have it by all means but it will obviously be my character. There are a few posts on this forum about the difficult ending with some tips on how to make it easier if you want to keep trying.

Originally Posted by Arokh
It's best to complete the game yourself with your own character, yes, as each character is unique to the player's style, what equipment you picked up, stats etc. I'd do what Raze suggested if you can't do it and want to see what happens at the end. However if you do want a save you can have it by all means but it will obviously be my character. There are a few posts on this forum about the difficult ending with some tips on how to make it easier if you want to keep trying.



I thank you for your help.

I have to use my own save with my own character.

Unfortunatly,tips and advice and counsel will not work here.


I've already made over one hundred tries and it is foolish to "beat a dead horse"

The scenario does not improve after many,many attempts so I must wait until someone can play the saved game I sent herewith and send it back to me


I still need help!


Is there anyone who can play my saved game and send it back to me?
Ill try to take a look at it over the next day or two and see if I can complete it with your character unless someone else tries in the meantime. Cnances are though if you can't complete the ending maybe I can't either & it may be because your character build isn't strong enough. Also as in my first post, I couldn't save at the end of the air battle but ll try again. Will let you know.
Originally Posted by Arokh
Ill try to take a look at it over the next day or two and see if I can complete it with your character unless someone else tries in the meantime. Cnances are though if you can't complete the ending maybe I can't either & it may be because your character build isn't strong enough. Also as in my first post, I couldn't save at the end of the air battle but ll try again. Will let you know.


My feeling is that you may have a great deal more personal insight into this chapter than I have.

I feel confident that someone (with more advanced scrutiny) will see what I will describe as an "error marker"


If I view a You Tube video of the sequence I find it fascinating.

The Dragon appears to float from Nest to Ballista Tower simply rejeuvenating and recovering health instantly.

It is truly astonishing as my Dragon is the complete diametrical antithesis..Potions are ineffective no matter what the potency.

Spells are useless because between the time the spell is cast (recharge time) the few seconds of "recharge" is all that is needed to kill Dragon

So in essence the Dragon's Protections (spells and potions) are useless because they are not strong enough to withstand the few seconds worth of attack that is rendered during what I call "rest or rejeuvination"
you also have to take into account what armour your dragon is using some dargon armour focus' on attack while others on Defence. It's best to use either the Crystal Dragon Armour or the Plate Mail Armour for the escort mission as they both focus on defence rather than offence.

You should never stay still especialy when regenerating, as I said in the last post summoning your wyvern ally helps to draw away some fire.
Ive tried all the armours (everything I've got) in different combinations


This has not made any difference at all


There is something fundamentally wrong with this Dragon that make it die prematurely
Then like Joram said theres proberbly a problem with your character build, seem to me that you should start from the beguining & try a different build for your character.

I mean your waiting till someone does the escort mission anyway so why not try starting again & building your character differentley.

You should try again & ask people on the forum for advise on the different builds, depending on how you choose to play.

it will also help in regards to developing your Dragon Form, you can search more areas & maybe find Dragon Skill books you might have missed.

Any abnormally high damage taken or slow regeneration may be a bug or glitch with the save/game, but you do not have enough options as a dragon to be able to create a poor build, even if you wanted to.
In D2:ED you can choose which skills to boost with points and armour, but in FoV you start will all skills maxed, so the only choice you have is between armour that does either +40% HP or Mana, and either +40% Offense or Defense.

The only thing you could do differently for the dragon is to run around Aleroth going through the caves (etc) with respawning opponents, in order to level. I got to level 47 during the dragon escort, and I suspect getting more than a couple levels higher than that would take awhile in Aleroth, and wouldn't necessarily make a huge difference.
No I know but if it is a bug in the game then starting again means that he'll have more of a chance to finish the game himself because theres a chance that it won't effect a new playthrough.

Unfortunately I haven't the Pc version of DKS, otherwise I wish to look at aida's build.

Aida, have you ever tried to take the Dragon skill Polymorph? It's a great strong skill against flying enemies! Most of the time you can evade the attacks to Ballista's and other kind of towers, but flying enemies are most of the time very DANGEROUS because they fly to you and many times more than one! I never maked it in dragon form at the start of the Hall of Echoes without Polymorph, even on a lower difficulty!!
But with Polymorph I did it on nightmare and it wasn't easy, but for sure surviveble.
Dragon Spirit I take al 5 points in and thhis skill I start always with when I invest in a Dragon Skill (after I defeat Laiken in Battle Tower).
After that try to destroy

After you Polymorph most of the flying enemies you can try to kill some of the "Ladybirds" or better try to destroy all the Nests first and after that the Lightnning and/or Wizard Towers.

But to be honest, I don't know how many Towers and Nests the Escort Mission has, so sorry if I'm totally wrong about Nests etc ... Are their (many) Nests in the Escort Mission ?
theres an easy 10 - 15 nests in that mission Joram
Originally Posted by Arokh
Ill try to take a look at it over the next day or two and see if I can complete it with your character unless someone else tries in the meantime. Cnances are though if you can't complete the ending maybe I can't either & it may be because your character build isn't strong enough. Also as in my first post, I couldn't save at the end of the air battle but ll try again. Will let you know.


Were you able to utilise the saved game?
Done, complated air battle for you. Savegame below is at start of ground fight with your character. Your build is fine and level 45 is OK to complete the game easilly enough. Trick was to take out biggest group of enemies and lightning towers with the nuke.

http://www.adrian-smith31.clara.co.uk/savegame39.dxg

http://www.adrian-smith31.clara.co.uk/autosave.dxg - this one is before cutscene so might be easier than one above.
Originally Posted by Arokh
Done, complated air battle for you. Savegame below is at start of ground fight with your character. Your build is fine and level 45 is OK to complete the game easilly enough. Trick was to take out biggest group of enemies and lightning towers with the nuke.

http://www.adrian-smith31.clara.co.uk/savegame39.dxg

http://www.adrian-smith31.clara.co.uk/autosave.dxg - this one is before cutscene so might be easier than one above.


Well I don't know HOW you did it but I am certainly grateful. Thank you!


"Trick was to take out biggest group of enemies and lightning towers with the nuke."


Please pardon my ignorance but could you explain (in a simplified way) taking out enemies "with the nuke"?

How specifically did you do this?

I know I pressed all the various spell keys (1-6) at intervals but none of them were ever even remotely successful.


How were you able to keep the dragon alive whilst launching your offence at the same time?

Whilst I controlled Dragon his lifespan was never more than aaprox.40 seconds
Well I completed the game thanks to your help.


I played the first save

I eliminated Ygerna and Behrlihn myself

I had plenty of potions and the character was well armed and I trained him well.

I did have a question;

What eventually happened to Ygerna and Behrlihn after they were terminated?
like I said to you before, if you keep moving even when your attacking then you won't be an easy mark for the computer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy48d5gr3C4

there take a look at that
Originally Posted by Divine Avenger
like I said to you before, if you keep moving even when your attacking then you won't be an easy mark for the computer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy48d5gr3C4

there take a look at that



My character was constantly moving but it still wasn't enough


I had to stay with the zeppelin which moved very slowly

Going away from the zeppelin gave me a prompt "I was too far from the zeppelin"



I played the polar opposite of that player

I played casual

looking at someone playing nightmare would not have helped me
the difficalty does'nt matter the strategy is still the same, you asked how he did it & I just showed you how.

That's how you do the escort mission on all difficaltys not just nightmare, you go ahead of the Zeplin so it does'nt get bombarded by the balistas.

you summon your wyvern ally to take some of the pressure off you.

You only use the Nuke spell on clusters.

If you were to stay with the Zeplin you'll fail every time because the Zeplin will take too much damage & it won't survive the final stretch.

The 'nuke' is the Wrath of the Patriarch spell (the only level 1 skill you have). It is used like any of the other skills; get close enough to highlight a nest or tower and hit the assigned hotkey (as long as it is not during the cooldown period and you have enough mana).

Just pressing various spell keys isn't quite as selective as you need to be.


Ygerna and Behrlihn presumably took a one way (this time) trip to the Hall of Echoes.


Like Divine Avenger said, the techniques that work in nightmare mode are the same things that will work in casual. The difference is that that casual should be more forgiving of mistakes and less than optimal strategies.
Originally Posted by Divine Avenger
the difficalty does'nt matter the strategy is still the same, you asked how he did it & I just showed you how.

That's how you do the escort mission on all difficaltys not just nightmare, you go ahead of the Zeplin so it does'nt get bombarded by the balistas.

you summon your wyvern ally to take some of the pressure off you.

You only use the Nuke spell on clusters.

If you were to stay with the Zeplin you'll fail every time because the Zeplin will take too much damage & it won't survive the final stretch.



Yes but the problem was that my Dragon could not sustain virtually any damage

Once he was hit that was it-quickly dead

So I'm wondering how Arokh was able to keep Dragon alive more than a few seconds?
Originally Posted by Raze

The 'nuke' is the Wrath of the Patriarch spell (the only level 1 skill you have). It is used like any of the other skills; get close enough to highlight a nest or tower and hit the assigned hotkey (as long as it is not during the cooldown period and you have enough mana).

Just pressing various spell keys isn't quite as selective as you need to be.


Ygerna and Behrlihn presumably took a one way (this time) trip to the Hall of Echoes.


Like Divine Avenger said, the techniques that work in nightmare mode are the same things that will work in casual. The difference is that that casual should be more forgiving of mistakes and less than optimal strategies.



Were Ygerna and Berhlihn confined in a sort of cage or prison once they went to the Hall of Echoes?


Were they considered dead or just in a cryogenic-frozen state?
Yagerna is dead as for Berhlihn I cannot say because I never did that ending

I left the B****** rot in his prison lol

@ Raze - I know my speeling is s*** lol but hay at least you can all get what i'm saying grin
Originally Posted by Divine Avenger
Yagerna is dead as for Berhlihn I cannot say because I never did that ending

I left the B****** rot in his prison lol



LOL But I killed Berhlihn and Ygerna.

I believe Behrlihn was not actually killed


He was put into the cryogenic freeze (where ny character was frozen in) earlier in the game
Originally Posted by Divine Avenger
Yagerna is dead as for Berhlihn I cannot say because I never did that ending

I left the B****** rot in his prison lol

@ Raze - I know my speeling is s*** lol but hay at least you can all get what i'm saying grin


I did that ending too. It does not say what happened to Berhlihn presumably as you say he was left to rot and stayed that way.

Aida - I completed it in one go, didn't die once. I used the 'nuke' aka wrath of the patriarch (mapped to 2 on your game) on the big groups and lightning towers. Healed using healing spell when health got to around 50% and used shield a few times. Used wyvern as a distraction when going through the nests & groups of ballistas to keep some of them off me. Kept moving to dodge ballista attacks as they do the most damage to you. It's just a matter of strategy of attack rather than just pressing spell hotkeys randomly. Keeping ahead of but not too far from the airship is the way to do it. Don't bother ordering them to attack targets the npc ai will do a good job on it's own. Ship health was around 25% when stage complete. I also had had a couple of pints of beer before playing it - maybe that helps! smile

I completed aida's game to see the alternate ending; my guess Yagerna died for good & Berhlihn was imprisioned. Prehaps Larian have plans for him to be in Project E?
Arokh,

Do you believe Ygerna would have had a large treasure with nice weapons and armour and stuff?
Possibly but I bet it was lost when her fortress was destroyed - you might not have seen this as it happened at the end of the air battle. Basically the airship carrying the eye of the Patriarch (bomb in other words) crashed into the tower blowing it up. Damien was not there and will return in Divinity 3.
Question for Raze;


Would there have been any survivors of the Airship carrying the Eye of the Patriarch?


Would they have been able to get out in time?

The explosion took out the remainder of the fleet of Black Ring flying fortresses, so there were no survivors from the zeppelin itself. The crew could have bailed out early, though, while the captain stayed at the helm. Presumably zeppelin crews would be even more concerned about falls than dragon slayers; if they couldn't learn how to control a fall from dragon knights before the war or slayers after, they could have developed their own levitation system for emergencies.
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