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Posted By: Alexstrasza 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 12:46 PM
Alright, so after beating the game on Honour Mode (omg, finally) and getting most of the achievements, I can safely state that I have pretty good understanding of which achievements are simply broken.

There's 10 achievements that stand out right now:

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Posting this thread for the developers to see the problem ones and for others who are achievement hunting like me to take note of which ones are finnicky or downright busted.

Also, have you guys looked at the global achievements? It's crazy! Only 5.3% of people have finished the game and of that 5.3%, only 1.4% on Tactician Mode!

Pretty cool. smile
Posted By: Stabbey Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 01:15 PM
I got Chosen, however, I got it by picking the guaranteed success options, so I think it should be changed so you only get it by actually winning all three persuasion checks.

The One seems broken, I did both the hidden optional arena and the mandatory main quest one and didn't get it.

I got A Song Unsung, so it worked for me. I don't think I got Stay Grounded, unless that means more than just handing over the heart.

The Seven Altars seems bugged, I visited all seven and got nothing, and it doesn't update your progress either.
Posted By: Alexstrasza Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 01:24 PM
Originally Posted by Stabbey
The One seems broken, I did both the hidden optional arena and the mandatory main quest one and didn't get it.


Same here, nothing worked.

EDIT: Upon review, I decided to bump it up to Purple status. It's clearly not functioning correctly and is seemingly broken despite numerous campaign completions.

Originally Posted by Stabbey
I got A Song Unsung, so it worked for me. I don't think I got Stay Grounded, unless that means more than just handing over the heart.


I did it and followed the quest line religiously (Sebille is my fave character) and nothing.

Originally Posted by Stabbey
The Seven Altars seems bugged, I visited all seven and got nothing, and it doesn't update your progress either.


Make sure you do it with one character if you're playing with someone else.

For example, my SO did 2 of them altars and I did 5; our progress showed 2/7 and 5/7 respectively. On our 2nd and 3rd play through, we made sure we each took a turn doing ALL of them by ourselves. This method earned our completion of it successfully.
Posted By: Stabbey Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza

Make sure you do it with one character if you're playing with someone else.


I was playing alone, I did it with one character, and got credit for none of them.
Posted By: Alexstrasza Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 01:30 PM
Originally Posted by Stabbey
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza

Make sure you do it with one character if you're playing with someone else.


I was playing alone, I did it with one character, and got credit for none of them.


Did you let the Gods' feed upon you?

I feel as though they broke it recently with a patch. An Australian friend of mine also didn't get credit; I just chalked it up to user error.

I guess I was wrong.
Posted By: Stabbey Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 02:04 PM
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza

Did you let the Gods' feed upon you?


That's much later isn't it? What does that have to do with the altars?
Posted By: sehnsucht Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 02:12 PM
I got "an apple a day" and "a song unsung”.

I beat the game before patch 3 though. Maybe they are broken after patch 3
Posted By: vometia Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by sehnsucht
I got "an apple a day" and "a song unsung”.

I beat the game before patch 3 though. Maybe they are broken after patch 3

Same, and same. I agree there's quite a few bugged ones though, IIRC in addition to the ones listed but I haven't been keeping a careful note.
Posted By: The Composer Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 03:28 PM
I've gotten some of these so I wouldn't call them 100%
broken. But definitely something funky and unreliable stuff going on. For example, I don't have "Liberator" either, even though I've killed the mother tree.

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Posted By: Alexstrasza Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Stabbey
The Seven Altars seems bugged, I visited all seven and got nothing, and it doesn't update your progress either.

Originally Posted by Stabbey
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza

Did you let the Gods' feed upon you?


That's much later isn't it? What does that have to do with the altars?


During the dialogue on the Nameless Isle, you're given the option to let the majority of the seven to feed on you when praying. They take a source point and AFAIK try to 'curse' you in some (annoying) way. Like, Rallic will permanently blind you to make it easier for his champion to beat you.

Originally Posted by sehnsucht
I got "an apple a day" and "a song unsung”.

I beat the game before patch 3 though. Maybe they are broken after patch 3


Quite possible; it does seem as though some achievements were rendered broken after a certain patch. Unfortunately for me, I was playing a custom character for my first campaign on tactician mode and it took quite a while... Probably missed the window of opportunity to get it until they fix it again.

Originally Posted by The Composer
I've gotten some of these so I wouldn't call them 100% broken.


I'm not; they're listed as definitely buggy or broken as I myself was unable to obtain them after numerous game completions and other users reporting inconsistencies with their acquisition.
Posted By: Stabbey Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
During the dialogue on the Nameless Isle, you're given the option to let the majority of the seven to feed on you when praying. They take a source point and AFAIK try to 'curse' you in some (annoying) way. Like, Rallic will permanently blind you to make it easier for his champion to beat you.


Never saw anything like that happen, unless you mean
the thing which happens at the very end of Act 3, and I said no to that because Duna was being kinda a dick about Dallis coming in and stealing the well, as if it was my fault that she had some bullshit back door teleporter shortcut. Also, at that point it was blatantly obvious he was about to try to kill me.

Posted By: fireundubh Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
Also, have you guys looked at the global achievements? It's crazy! Only 5.3% of people have finished the game and of that 5.3%, only 1.4% on Tactician Mode!

+/- 200 people who have used a DLL hack + script to unlock all achievements.
Posted By: Alexstrasza Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 11:14 PM
Originally Posted by fireundubh
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
Also, have you guys looked at the global achievements? It's crazy! Only 5.3% of people have finished the game and of that 5.3%, only 1.4% on Tactician Mode!

+/- 200 people who have used a DLL hack + script to unlock all achievements.


I doubt it. 200 people isn't even .1% for this game.

If that were even true, why is there achievements that 0 percent of the community have?

Quit calling hacks, tbh.
Posted By: fireundubh Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 25/10/17 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
If that were even true, why is there achievements that 0 percent of the community have? Quit calling hacks, tbh.

K.
Posted By: Alexstrasza Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 01:42 AM
Originally Posted by fireundubh
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
If that were even true, why is there achievements that 0 percent of the community have? Quit calling hacks, tbh.

K.
  • Achievements: DLL hack to enable achievements with mods (Total DLs: 1.4K)
  • Achievement Unlocker: Mod that unlocks all 97 achievements (Total DLs: 184)


Doesn't mean anything.

You're not contributing anything constructive to my thread. Please stop derailing it with random anecdotes and useless generalizations about the community.
Posted By: fireundubh Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
You're not contributing anything constructive to my thread. Please stop derailing it with random anecdotes and useless generalizations about the community.

What anecdotes? I didn't post any anecdotes. Also pretty sure that "+/- 200 people" is a far cry from a generalization.

Do you know what the words you use even mean?
Posted By: Alexstrasza Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by fireundubh
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
You're not contributing anything constructive to my thread. Please stop derailing it with random anecdotes and useless generalizations about the community.

What anecdotes? I didn't post any anecdotes. Also pretty sure that "+/- 200 people" is a far cry from a generalization.

Do you know what the words you use even mean?


You're posting the numbers of downloads of some random files that somehow indicate how many people hack this game. You're using this information as the sole basis of your argument to convey this. This all despite evidence on Steam that directly contradicts this - presuming it could even be used as a reliable measurement, which of course it can't.

The reason you're just being annoying for the sake of being a nuisance is nothing you said makes any sense, nor was it even on-topic to what was the main point of the thread. Your complete inability to understand that is why I'm going to block you.
Posted By: fireundubh Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 06:13 AM
Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
You're posting the numbers of downloads of some random files that somehow indicate how many people hack this game.

I posted an adjustment to your statistics, which is certainly on topic.

Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
You're using this information as the sole basis of your argument to convey this.

Oh, yes, how dare I use statistical data to state, not argue, with statistical certainty that +/- 200 people 100%'d the achievements, including all the achievements you say are broken or not possible to obtain. HOW DARE I.

Originally Posted by Alexstrasza
I'm going to block you.

I'm sorry you are unable to interact with anyone on this forum without becoming overtly hostile. See ya.

rolleyes
Posted By: vometia Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 06:17 AM
Enough. Stay on topic, please.
Posted By: Alexstrasza Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 06:23 AM
Originally Posted by Stabbey
Never saw anything like that happen, unless you mean
the thing which happens at the very end of Act 3, and I said no to that because Duna was being kinda a dick about Dallis coming in and stealing the well, as if it was my fault that she had some bullshit back door teleporter shortcut. Also, at that point it was blatantly obvious he was about to try to kill me.



Lol, I never understood why the Gods get super butt hurt about Dallis crashing your party. I guess they're just lashing out? Since they're about to die and turn on you to try and get some of their investment out of your corpse.

No, I mean the seven altars scattered all over the place in their temples. You have to pray to each one for it to reveal the symbol so you can enter it into the Lunar Gate to gain access to the Academy or whatever it's called. While praying, the other Gods try to hamper your efforts by cursing you sometimes.


You never did this? :O
Posted By: C14H19NO2 Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 09:29 AM
Kraken achiev. seems to be bugged for me also, or I am doing something wrong.

On my tactician/honor play through in the final fight I literally killed the kraken 5 times and got nothing. Is there something special you have to do for the achiev. or just kick his ass like I did 5 times?

Posted By: BitterHeals Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 05:34 PM
I have Chosen, Puritan's Walk, An Apple A Day, and a Song Unsung. The Beast and other Sebille achievements are definitely broken, though, and I'm not even sure The One and Deicide exist.
Posted By: Solostran Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 26/10/17 05:34 PM
I'm playing GOG version of the game, which might have its own issues. Keep that in mind.

As for me:
1) Divine (achievement for completing game in Tactician mode) - I didn't receive it, maybe because of respecing character
2) Fane related achievements are somewhat broken - I was able to unlock both of them only after using Swornbreaker to break Covenant oath.
3) Sebille achievements, but only those related to Mother Tree (killing Shadow Prince worked fine, I played as Sebille); Beast achievements.
4) An Apple Day worked fine for me, same for Puritan's Walk (I used henchman to get it) and Chosen (I used persuasion options during dialogue)
5) I think it doesn't make sense that to unlock Ifan achievements you need to specifically play as him.

Achievements broken in other way (aka, I get them without reason):
1) Red Prince (All-Father, Life-Shaper and A Dream Undone) - I received both of them, without having Red Prince in party (in fact, he was long dead).
2) Kraken - received it without dealing even 1 point of damage to Kraken.
Posted By: Hassat Hunter Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 09/11/17 02:38 AM
Well, got the issue too with "The Seven Altars". Got them all, it's at 5/7. I did use Ifan for Rhalic and transformed into a dwarf for Duron, so I guess those are counted against it? That's just... weird.
Posted By: Hassat Hunter Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 09/11/17 08:12 PM
I've interacted with the Rhalic altar, now it's 6/7. Went around all other altars aswell, but even using all of them it stays at 6 as final smirk
Posted By: LokiTheAnsuz Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 09/11/17 09:33 PM
I didn't get the Seven Altars one either and I'm playing solo. I prayed in all of them and granting the gods wishes as Lohse... I thought it was because I used Sebille to pray at the Elven Altar and after that the altar wouldn't say anything to Lohse OR because after I killed the Master (got that achievement) I accidently found the secret entrance to the Academy (I entered the tunnel, tried to open the door and noticed my companions had to be persuaded and got the achievement discovering the entry, so I reloaded to the point before I clicked on the door and went back outside the secret entrance) and perhaps that broke things, because I killed the Mother with Sebille and didn't get the achievement, entered the Academy through the front door and didn't get the achievement, conviced my party members to support me with persuasion and didn't get the achievement, conviced Alexandar to support me and didn't get that achievement, entered and escaped the Arena of the One (both of them) and didn't get the achievement...

When I found out I missed so many achievements, the next day I renounced to my progress and reloaded to the point just before entering the Academy throught the front door. I conviced my party and entered and BAM got both achievements... I play on GOG, and some weird things have been happening there lately, so perhaps that's the problem for me... Turns out I missed many achievements despite doing unknowingly exactly what you're supposed to do to get them, like Thunders of the Upper Deep, A Good and Faithful Servant and Iniquity Forgiven...
Posted By: Yasen Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 10/11/17 03:52 PM
But aren't those seven alters the ones from Reaper's Coast? Not the ones from the Nameless Isle?

Anyways. At this point I'd rather Larian devoted the majority of the human power to their next project.

Take it easy guys.
Posted By: Hassat Hunter Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 10/11/17 04:02 PM
The Seven Altars
Pray at every altar on the Nameless Isle
6 / 7

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At this point I'd rather Larian devoted the majority of the human power to their next project.

Cause leaving a mess of a game behind and just moving on is always the best course of action, right? Love the game, but their quest (log) design is a MESS, sub-RPG standard, and the armor system absolutely wreaks havoc in balancing, favoring lopsided parties. And they must have designed wits and the initiative system on a drunken party.
Posted By: Yasen Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 10/11/17 04:13 PM
Dude, I was amazed at how small the team that designed the game was. I think they must have been quite full of it by the end. It certainly shows very well with the 'antagonistic' characters. Having to fix so much now probably does not feel very good. I do agree it's a mess. But I'd rather they moved away from it and learn for the next game. Trying to fix this thing now will be much more work than starting fresh.
Posted By: LokiTheAnsuz Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 10/11/17 08:03 PM
Lets not derail the conversation, it's about achievements smile
Posted By: Yasen Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 10/11/17 10:26 PM
True. I apologise. Don't feed the troll.(sarcastically points at myself ;D)
Posted By: Hassat Hunter Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 11/11/17 08:50 AM
I'm a troll now? Wow, just. Wow.
I'm sooooooooorry for seeing the many many flaws in D:OS2. I'll praise unconditional love from now on, and surely hope that D:OS3 features the same armor system and initiative since we praised them all for it... :eyeroll:

And this is coming from the guy who basically said "issues in the game? Just leave them in, abandon the game and work out to shell more money out of gamers with another product, probably similar plagued with issues you can just leave when people paid you."
Since it's all about the quick buck and loosing any faith your clientele has in you till the bubble burst and they're sick of it. Yeah... let's not.
Posted By: Yasen Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 11/11/17 04:42 PM
I've edited my post, man. Take it easy.
Posted By: LokiTheAnsuz Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 17/11/17 05:19 AM
Now I can confirm "An Apple a Day" is bugged for me as well...
Posted By: Hassat Hunter Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 17/11/17 10:08 AM
I've gotten that just a couple days ago (along with "Doctor: Heal Thyself").
Posted By: LokiTheAnsuz Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 17/11/17 04:13 PM
Only Heal Thyself triggered for me. I weakened the doctor and all... Perhaps it's because Lohse is the main character...
Posted By: Hassat Hunter Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 17/11/17 07:17 PM
Could be, she's a NPC for me. Did also weaken the doctor.
Did you kill him in Demon form or human form (I did demon form).
Posted By: LokiTheAnsuz Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 20/11/17 11:19 PM
I also weakened the doctor, he had -50% everything. And I reloaded to a point before talking to him for the first time several times, restarting GOG and everything; but every single time he transforms into demon form as soon as the battle starts... is that supposed to happen?

He always goes first and transforms, then he proceeds to use scrolls and potions. I don't buy his stuff before the battle starts... It's also worth noting that all of the times I killed him except one (the last time I killed him), his entire vendor inventory drops =0
Posted By: lx07 Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 21/11/17 12:01 AM
Doctor isn't a problem. Nor are the nurses. It is those other Nemesis buggers that always get me.

How come they run so fast? They are big and fat so they should lumber around but no - they scurry like cockroaches. Then hit you really hard. Yuck.
Posted By: LokiTheAnsuz Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 21/11/17 12:15 AM
Nemesis? I didn't see anything like that in my encounters with the Doctor. Just the demon himself and the nurses... Perhaps I killed him too fast? (2 rounds every time, additional 2 rounds for cleaning up the nurses)... I'm starting to feel I did things wrong...
Posted By: lx07 Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 21/11/17 12:01 PM
I believe that if you play Lohse and blow out the candles you don't get the Nemesis guys but idk as I've not played her (even though the Doctor seems to think I am her for some reason).
Posted By: Yasen Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 21/11/17 12:02 PM
If you kill the meme-sis demons(hard buggers) during the town encounters they will not spawn with the Doctor.
Posted By: Hassat Hunter Re: 10 (or so?) Broken Achievements - 21/11/17 12:14 PM
I killed them way after the Doctor and they didn't appear during the fight. Might be a Tactician thing?
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