The Dark Urge: speculations. - Larian Studios forums

I don't know if anyone on the forum already brought this up, after the PFH a million new threads and messages appeared in this forum (as it should be).

What do you guys think?

I think the theory that the Dark Urge is equivalent to

though not necessarily the

is very reasonable. Though personally I don't care much whatever turns out to be right, I don't really intend to play it myself.

Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus

Originally Posted by Warlocke

Originally Posted by SaurianDruid

I dunno about Lohse, but I am pondering if this Dark Urge might be connected to Baal. Something like an unwilling Avatar.

He 100% is. In the new trailer the goblin is in a chamber with a giant Bhaal symbol saying â€œyou are the chosen one,â€ as the Dark Urge stands over a glowing sigil of the Bhaal symbol and turns into the Slayer.

So a third generation descendant of Abazigal --> Draconis --> The Dark Urge or at least one can make his own background around this.

Could be anything. One can write a book, with just listing possible entities behind Dark Urge's... dark urges.

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel

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I wonder how many of the origin characters are actually god avatars, and just how timedisplaced everyone is. Karlach 8s the only person we have a rough timline of but just how long has everyone else been on the naughitloid?

Originally Posted by Zerubbabel

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No when Bhaal and Myrkul came back, along with most other returning Gods, its was as Gods straight up.

It was only when they decided to walk among mortal that AOs new rule kicked in, they had to do it as demigods, at least until they decide to go back to the Outer Planes like Auril eventually does. This rule applied to the Mulhorandi Gods who rule Muholrand and Gilgream who rules returned Unther. Only exception to returning Gods being Gods is Nanna-Sin who traded his Godhood to Asmodeus in exchange for
Nanna Sin's resurrection and spitting out Azuth, in a deal brokered by the Brimstone & the Untheric God Enlil who after having left Faerun millenia ago, returned during the Sundering with the help of a Dragonborn.

The dead three got MtG cards in Commander: Legends Battle For Baldur's Gate, although really only Mykrul's card is any good.

Originally Posted by Omegaphallic

Originally Posted by Zerubbabel

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No when Bhaal and Myrkul came back, along with most other returning Gods, its was as Gods straight up.

It was only when they decided to walk among mortal that AOs new rule kicked in, they had to do it as demigods, at least until they decide to go back to the Outer Planes like Auril eventually does. This rule applied to the Mulhorandi Gods who rule Muholrand and Gilgream who rules returned Unther. Only exception to returning Gods being Gods is Nanna-Sin who traded his Godhood to Asmodeus in exchange for
Nanna Sin's resurrection and spitting out Azuth, in a deal brokered by the Brimstone & the Untheric God Enlil who after having left Faerun millenia ago, returned during the Sundering with the help of a Dragonborn.

The dead three got MtG cards in Commander: Legends Battle For Baldur's Gate, although really only Mykrul's card is any good.

So Dark Urge is definitely not Bhaal or the Avatar of Bhaal then, but that leaves all the other options open.

I wonder ...
It seems especialy twisted to play Dark Urge as Cleric of Bhaal. >:]

But it should be possible, right?

I'm intrested in this dark urge thing bc of story plus in the lore all bhaalspawn had/has dark temptations sooo what I saw so far it's really feel like a bhaalspawn.
My main concern is that I want to play as a goody two shoes character and I dont mind refuse dark desires (its ad some drama and depht for me) BUT I'm not sure I can be good entirely with that origin. I mean can I play through the whole game without killing or harm any innocnet creature/ppl? Or will be some inevitable tragedies?

Originally Posted by zsuszi

I'm intrested in this dark urge thing bc of story plus in the lore all bhaalspawn had/has dark temptations sooo what I saw so far it's really feel like a bhaalspawn.
My main concern is that I want to play as a goody two shoes character and I dont mind refuse dark desires (its ad some drama and depht for me) BUT I'm not sure I can be good entirely with that origin. I mean can I play through the whole game without killing or harm any innocnet creature/ppl? Or will be some inevitable tragedies?

I think exactly the same. I always play good characters - somehow I can't empathize with the bad one - and fighting my dark urges would give the character extra depth, but won't it end in disaster?

It looks like Wolfheart picked The Dark Urge when he played the game on Friday and has a little bit more info at

A few things to consider:
Bhaalspawn were a insurence by Bhaal. In order for him to return all of them must die, which happened in the lore when the BG2 protagonist got murdered.

Dragonborn only appeared after Bhaals death, so can't be Bhaalspawn. (Maybe when you count the transformed humans, but they were good aligned, transformed by divine power, rare and that also happened after Bhaals death, although here its possible that this was retroactively changed).

Originally Posted by The Red Queen

It looks like Wolfheart picked The Dark Urge when he played the game on Friday and has a little bit more info at

"My character did something that actually had me turn away [...] be prepared for a dark, horrifying, but extremely intriguing experience."

Bear sex has competition.
I'm sorry. I can't resist. It's a community meme at this point.

Perhaps just a Deathstalker

Are we sure our backstory doesn't change with our actions? It's altogether suspicious that it's unknown and it comes to us in bursts -- much like the dark urges

Originally Posted by Zerubbabel

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For me it's really if this is a red herring or not. Alternatively, if we're not the one experiencing the dark urges -- a boss we fight may be the person who did... because it's an actual canon character Larian isn't wasting. Essentially, it's a way to become that boss, as the complimentary dark side.

Originally Posted by Silver/

Originally Posted by Zerubbabel

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For me it's really if this is a red herring or not. Alternatively, if we're not the one experiencing the dark urges -- a boss we fight may be the person who did... because it's an actual canon character Larian isn't wasting. Essentially, it's a way to become that boss, as the complimentary dark side.

That's just the thing then.
It's 50% exactly what you think it is, and 50% red herring.