Lots of news about multiplayer and the cinematic approach for Baldur's Gate 3! New poster and a fun video to watch Swen + guests be up to shenanigans. And some Q&A from community questions sourced from the Larian Studios Discord and a Reddit thread.


Read the FULL Community Update here!

@5:28 "later on if you choose to play Astarion OR a vampire..."

He probably didn't mean to say it like that and/or isn't intending to reveal the option to play as a unique vampire/vampire-spawn.

Glad to learn of some definite plans to include modding after 1.0 (just hope it is intuitive and robust).

As for the cinematics, am I correct in understanding that not only will the other players be able to see the scene with the main player and provide input on dialogue choices, but that the other players will see the scene from their character’s perspective?

....or did he?

[img]https://media1.tenor.com/images/66c32467a02327da2aab938ca14b95f9/tenor.gif?itemid=4265641[/img]

Edit: ok, apparently image tagging doesn't work...but you can click on it for what many probably already know it is anyway.

I would like to know if the manner of how they add mod tools will actually make sense. I have seen games that added mod support like a year or two after the release at which point nobody really cared anymore. Also does Stadia even support modding?

Also, please suggest to @Cromwelp to review from bottom up on questions....that Reddit thread is a week old now, and most of the questions used in today's update look more recent in the overall thread....so if they're only reviewing the most recent stuff eventually the oldest ones at the end get lost in the proverbial ether.

I don't think so.

If the handling of questions goes about anywhere alike how it was done for Q&A during Panel from Hell, then I can assure you that all the questions are seen and considered. Basically, it's... Collect all the questions > Sift through and move applicable questions to its own list > Work through the curated questions".

Essentially, the questions aren't just copy pasted at willy nilly from Reddit / the Google doc directly, but handled in a slightly more editorial fashion 😊

Gotcha....and as I said on Discord, it wasn't a complaint either so much as just an observation of the initial questions answered and a hope based on that. Thanks! Also....Google doc? I only knew of the Reddit thread opened to consolidate questions - I suppose I missed something.

Yeah, there's a pinned Google doc in the BG3 channel on discord.

Yeah, the forum software's not very intelligent with image linking, unfortunately: the link needs to end with .gif, .jpg or .png and even then it's a bit "hmm". An upgrade is in the pipeline... somewhere!

Awesome video and the game is looking amazing!!!

Sincere thanks for the affirmation that it wasn't just losing my technical savvy/acumen in my advancing years

Actually just saw the new BG3 site:

https://baldursgate3.game/

Really nice artwork.

We didn´t know much about Wyll, but I like what they added to the image. I seems our warlock made a pact with a Succubus... kinky. A deadly mistake, but still kinky.
There was a thread some time ago asking for Succubus. Now you got it ha ha ha.

In regards to Wyll's patron (the lovely lady to has wrapped herself about him) is she a succubus or an Erinyes? And if she is a succubus is he a devil or a demon, because apparently Succubus can be both. Though given the prominence the Nine Hells are playing, I am going to go for a Devilish Succubus. Raphael sure has some competition.
That is also a very interesting staff that Shadowheart is wielding.

I am still somewhat confused as to how dialogues work. I assumed it will act as if it was singleplayer (one player engages in dialogue and it is tailored for him) and other one "listens in", as it was the case in D:OS1&2. Do coop partners need to initiate "listen in"? Are they pulled in if they are close enough? Can they do stuff while companion is talking? Can we minimise coop info UI (going whole cinematic is kinda pointless if we cover the screen with "what your friends want to do UI"). Can our companions influence initiated conversation (like interupt it) outside stating their wishes? In the video there was example of Coop buddies offering themselves or others as vampire food... shouldn't that be a choice exclusive for hte vampire? Should he make those choices behind peoples back? Shouldn't players be able to make throws to see if they are being fed on, rather then offer themselves? I suppose it could be this "we can read your mind thanks to tadpole thing" but I feel it erases a lot of possible interesting situations rather then enhancing them.

EDIT: Sorry, I am tired. Some of those were answered in the post.

I am not an expert for 5E, but in older games succubi were demons and erinyes were devils.
The fact that the game plays ( partly ) in hell ( home of devils ) has no influence on the question if he made a pact with a demon or devil before.
First, the game may also lead us to abbys at some point.
Second, both demons and devils can have reasons to send a minion to hell to do something for them.
Third, the characters go to hell because they get kidnapped by Illithids. It is unclear if they want to go there or if they were send there for other reasons too.


PS:
Looks like we have 2 moderators now. Vometia is no longer alone.
Welcome

Er, yes. Mr The Composer was incautious enough to show a level head so I had him abducted, and I've borrowed Freddo from TESF in case anyone needs that special "just one word can be more of a dressing down than you think" experience.

(ForumKenobi) "Dressing down"....now that's a phrase I've not heard in a long time. A long time. (/ForumKenobi)

Side note: usage of parentheticals were to avoid potential further tagging issues - farbeit for me to tax the poor system logic worse than I already have in prior posts.

Until now Larian has used the character design of the bestiary of the Wotc´s books so I assume they´re doing the same.

In there, Succubus have "bat" wings and Erinyes "Fallen Angel" wings, so I assume the very affectionate creature with Wyll is a Succubus, or a Cambion.

After reading this twitter I think maybe she´s a Cambion ( It seems alu-fiends are not in 5e anymore)

https://twitter.com/Cromwelp/status/1304117852564226051

Nimue
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Looks great! That demon (devil?) up there gives me the creeps.
Very Games Michael
@Cromwelp
Cambion friends are best friends


IIRC Raphael is a cambion too. Maybe their plots are related?

Interestingly, the NPCs either have a pact or a "strange magic" within.

4e made Succubi Devils and 5e split the difference between the editions by making Succubi neither. And Raphel is a Cambion, which means he is half mortal and half fiend, but he isn't technically a devil althiugh one of his parents might be.

I have only read the PHB of 5E, so I have no info about monsters.

Just to be sure: devils are still lawful evil and obsessed with contracts, usually to sell souls while demons are still chaotic evil and they inspire others to give into whatever negative emotions they have without caring about anything, so they enjoy lust, hatred, greed, violence and so on.

will all the community updates be before the early access?

There will be updates during Early Access, as well.

Just a quick word from someone who has stuck up for Larian on steam when people say it isn't a D&D game but a D:OS and when I read that the Lone Wolf was going to be added I can no longer say I am happy. No where in any D$D homebrew have i ever seen a boost in stats and damage for wanting to run a solo character. Wasted money on a game I thought was going to be a D&D game and not A D:OS game.

The world of DnD has many a stories of heroes and their solo or duo adventures. Whats wrong with living out a similar thing in BG3? Playing a solo run of BG3 actually sounds kind of awesome, its gonna take some serious refining tho.

Damn, son.

1. If you don't wish to use that option, and play it like a regular 4 to 6 member party D&D game, then go right ahead. Nobody is forcing you.

2. What about when there is a solo adventurer who is exceptional and manages to accomplish things on their own? Do they not accumulate large amounts of experience by themselves, which manifests itself in their advancement being accelerated, and then gaining higher stats more quickly?

3. People min/maxed and soloed BG1 and BG2 and the IWD games.

4. Drizzt, escaping from the Underdark, as well as multiple times later on in his career, when he was alone.

5. Artemis Entreri.

6. Elminster.

7. Alias and Dragonbait.

8. Plenty of other characters who adventured solo or with only a single companion, within the Forgotten Realms or other D&D-based settings that neither I nor you know about.

This isn't "not okay" just because you say so. It makes sense within the settings and the rules and with the justifications they have stated.
They have stated, multiple times, that there is always gonna be some artistic licence taken because it's literally impossible to make a video game representation of 5E D&D 100% accurate. 5E has nigh-on infinite possibilities and they'd never finish programming the game if they tried to emulate that completely. Then you'd complain that it's Larian's fault that BG3 was never released.

When all is said and done, though, they're in the business of selling video games and they want as many people as possible to play their games. Nobody is being forced to do so. If you really think it's that bad an idea, then accept that you paid the money and accepted the user agreement when you downloaded the game and this was always one of the risks of buying a game in early access.
Next time, maybe it'd be better to wait until its complete so you can make a fair assessment of the finished product.

Those examples given are characters that succeeded -despite- being alone, overcoming the challenges associated with it. With Lone Wolf it becomes a situation where you succeed -because- you are alone. None of those examples magtically grew stronger and mightier because they had no buddies nearby. It makes no sense in the setting to just grow more powerful beyond what people otherwise would achieve just because you decide not to have friends with you.

DnD is at the core a team game, for a party of people. The D:OS games were not neccesarily this, they had their own ruleset where you could be any class/class combination you wanted, it was based around having strong characters rather than a group of people with specific roles. A single strong character could replace 2, or even 3 partymembers.

Sure, it is possible to solo a DnD type game or even BG3, it is a nice challenge and I did this often myself. But that is just it, it is a challenge and meant to be. One character should not just be stronger and negate that challenge in a teamgame just because. Considering it is already possible to solo BG3, a lone wolf option kind of negates that challenge, as well as make going solo as default an option as a party of people, in a team/party based game. One character is not meant to replace a full party, in the dnd style setting.