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Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:19 PM
So we know that canonically, Minsc is still alive (has been magicked back to life). Jaheira is likely still alive. Viconia. Aerie. Etc.

Where are these iconic characters??!
Posted By: dreambled Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:20 PM
Would you have liked to run into all of them in Act one while you're in the middle of no where?
Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by dreambled
Would you have liked to run into all of them in Act one while you're in the middle of no where?

Yes. All at once!
Posted By: Koshea Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:30 PM
And have them curb stomp you like they did Drizzt that one time...
Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:31 PM
Seriously though - all I want is some confirmation from Larian that one or more of them will show up at some point. I have a feeling they're going to keep it close for now though. Kind of like we know that Ahsoka is going to show up in Mando S2 but the powers that be are dangling it like a carrot in front of us with no actual confirmation. biggrin
Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Koshea
And have them curb stomp you like they did Drizzt that one time...
They need to bring in the Companions of the Hall just so I can take their stuff. Agreed wholeheartedly!
Posted By: Ramien Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:35 PM
Jaheira's a half elf, so she may not be around any longer. Viconia died if the PC romanced her. Minsc and Boo have been teased, but depending on how canon the comics are, they might still be a statue in the middle of Baldur's Gate until something brings them back.
Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:42 PM
I'm seeing 180 years average lifespan for half-elves in 5e. Not sure how old Jaheira was at the end of BG2. Viconia - could go either way you are right. As for the comics - am fairly sure they are canon? Here's hoping anyway. Slight spoiler - I did find one reference to them in EA, but that's it. There were some other elf and dwarf characters from BG1 & 2 (and a gnome or two) that I wasn't nearly as invested in - but I'd imagine they might still be around as well.
Posted By: Synaryn Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:45 PM
A dataminer confirmed that Minsc seems to be in the game, coded as a companion.
Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Synaryn
A dataminer confirmed that Minsc seems to be in the game, coded as a companion.
And I am now giddy as a schoolgirl. Thank you for this.
Posted By: WarBaby2 Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by Synaryn
A dataminer confirmed that Minsc seems to be in the game, coded as a companion.


I read that one too... Minsc also was a reoccurring character in some recent Forgotten Realms pnp material.
Posted By: Redwyrm Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by TrollishMcTroll
So we know that canonically, Minsc is still alive (has been magicked back to life).

Would you link reference to that?
Sound more like another wiki-fan-nonsense to me...
Posted By: Demoulius Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 07:54 PM
Honestly id prefer if they stuck to their own characters....

It takes place 100 years after bg2 I think I read so all the elven, half-even dwarven etc characters COULD still be around but given how nostalgia works I think they would need to do a very insanely good job or risk alienating alot of people.

I honestly see more harm coming from it then good.
Posted By: Arideya Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 07:55 PM
Eh I am probably the only one who doesn't want to see them. I love them to bits, but i'd rather not have too much exposition on what happened to my Bhaalspawn and the old companions are dangerously close to that.
Posted By: Redwyrm Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by Demoulius


It takes place 100 years after bg2 I think I read so all the elven

It's closer to two hundred years actually. Original BG trilogy takes places very shortly after Time of Troubles. Which ended in 1358. And current year is 1495.
Posted By: Redwyrm Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:04 PM
Originally Posted by Arideya
Eh I am probably the only one who doesn't want to see them. I love them to bits, but i'd rather not have too much exposition on what happened to my Bhaalspawn and the old companions are dangerously close to that.


You surely not the only one.
Altering story and lore just to bring back someone favorite character is very cheap move, which surely goes against immersion. Minsc were a simple human mortal, and by all accounts he simply should be long dead.
Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Redwyrm
Originally Posted by TrollishMcTroll
So we know that canonically, Minsc is still alive (has been magicked back to life).

Would you link reference to that?
Sound more like another wiki-fan-nonsense to me...


Here you go - official WotC

Misc and Boo LIVE!
Posted By: Moirnelithe Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:16 PM
Minsc and Boo are the first ones to die should I encounter them. They annoy me so much ><
Posted By: Tuco Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Arideya
Eh I am probably the only one who doesn't want to see them. I love them to bits, but i'd rather not have too much exposition on what happened to my Bhaalspawn and the old companions are dangerously close to that.


I'm of two minds about this.
On one hand, I never was crazily in love with the companions in BG2. They served their purpose, they were just likeable enough and more "interactive" than most of the companions in smiliar RPGs of the past, but I don't remember any of them with particular intense love, I was never in awe with their writing nor I care about the franchise because of them.
On the other hand, I'd be pretty damn curious to see to what degree Larian would nail (or fail badly) a "reimagining" of some of them.

I don't care about having them playable, anyway.

Posted By: clavis Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:22 PM
Originally Posted by Redwyrm
Originally Posted by Arideya
Eh I am probably the only one who doesn't want to see them. I love them to bits, but i'd rather not have too much exposition on what happened to my Bhaalspawn and the old companions are dangerously close to that.


You surely not the only one.
Altering story and lore just to bring back someone favorite character is very cheap move, which surely goes against immersion. Minsc were a simple human mortal, and by all accounts he simply should be long dead.


You are not the only one.
Posted By: Redwyrm Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:23 PM
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
Minsc and Boo are the first ones to die should I encounter them. They annoy me so much ><


So it's another Wizard's fault after all *sigh*
I hope Larian at least will make them killable. Someone should fix that error.
Posted By: TrollishMcTroll Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:50 PM
Y'all are just dead inside. To each their own I suppose!
Posted By: 0Muttley0 Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 08:59 PM
When does Viconia die?

I seem to remember hearing she adventured with Drizzt for a while.
Posted By: Ramien Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by 0Muttley0
When does Viconia die?

I seem to remember hearing she adventured with Drizzt for a while.

If you don't romance her, she lives. If you romance her in game, she dies.

Posted By: Arideya Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 09:06 PM
Originally Posted by 0Muttley0
When does Viconia die?

I seem to remember hearing she adventured with Drizzt for a while.


If you romanced her she gets killed by a servant of Lloth.
Posted By: Gabriel Farishta Re: Minsc, Jaheira, etc - 12/10/20 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by clavis
Originally Posted by Redwyrm
Originally Posted by Arideya
Eh I am probably the only one who doesn't want to see them. I love them to bits, but I'd rather not have too much exposition on what happened to my Bhaalspawn and the old companions are dangerously close to that.


You surely not the only one.
Altering story and lore just to bring back someone favorite character is very cheap move, which surely goes against immersion. Minsc were a simple human mortal, and by all accounts, he simply should be long dead.


You are not the only one.


Honestly, though, it wouldn't be the game that was altering lore; WotC has already revived them. As per Forgotten Realms lore, BG1 was set in 1368, and Minsc and Boo were petrified sometime between the end of BG2 and the year 1409. They were eventually revived by a wild magic surge (of course that's what would revive a petrified man-and-hamster that everyone thought was a statue) sometime in the 1480s.

And it's simple enough to include Minsc yet not allude to how BG2 ended; chances are Minsc won't remember much after spending a century as a statue. In fact, as per lore, the fate of the Bhaalspawn is in fact known as of the 2013 adventure Murder in Baldur's Gate (one of the first 5e adventures):

Abdel Adrian, aka Gorion's Ward, manages to resist the murderous impulses that come with being Bhaalspawn, and eventually becomes a great hero and a ruler of Baldur's Gate. Decades later, at the start of the Second Sundering in 1482, Adrian is considered to be the last remaining Bhaalspawn, and Bhaal's resurrection is believed to have failed. However, another Bhaalspawn named Viekang shows up, the two fight, and one of them is killed (unknown who), while the other transforms into a monstrosity known as the Slayer. Eventually, the Slayer is also killed, thereby marking the death of all Bhaalspawn, and allowing Bhaal to resurrect and become the Lord of Murder once again.
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