I’m so very disappointed in this “prerelease”. Ultimately I paid $60 to be a beta tester. At the stage of development this game is in, it should never have been released. Call it “prerelease” or what you will, you should be ashamed of yourselves @larian.

One thing I have discovered is that the game is somewhat playable if I play in offline mode with steam. Otherwise, I’m forced to close and restart the game between loading previous saves. I also have to reboot my computer periodically or I suffer intolerable lag.

Hopefully soon this will at least be a polished turd, and I can feel I spent $60 on something that doesn’t look as bad but still stinks like a turd.

Well at least the post fits the name.

Let me make sure that I understand this correctly. You're upset that you bought into an early access experience that feels like an early access experience, and it's somehow Larian's fault that your setup is struggling?

Early access should at least be playable without all of the bugs and problems that players are seeing. A “prerelease” should be a playable game with minor bugs.
Essentially what larian did was release a shell and suckered people into paying to be beta testers. There’s a difference between beta testing a game and paying for a playable prerelease

this post is bound to trigger someone, haha

So by your logic, the people who've invested 75-100 hours at this point haven't been able to get anywhere or do anything. They've logged those hours just starting up the game and standing around.
And Larian hardly "suckered anyone in." Most people understand what the early access process is. They even warned people multiple times that if they were looking for a complete, more-perfect product, they should wait until release because the early access process was going to be imperfect and evolve slowly. It's not their fault that you didn't do any research. The game is perfectly playable. Stop being dramatic to make a point.

LOL too late

I’m voicing my opinion, as you are yours.

I’ve beta tested several games in the past 20 years that were far more complete than this.

You’re entitled to your opinion and to troll as you like

Can we stop feeding the little juvenile troll?

Thanks.

I've played through 3 times, ranger, rogue, wizard, and crashed twice. I've ran into some bugs but nothing game breaking or caused me to rage quit. I send my bug report and move on. If you have beta tested before then you know "this is the way".

This kind of feedback is more suited as crash reports when they happen along with whatever info Larian needs to investigate what's causing the crashes. This post isn't helpful to anyone

It's not even beta though. It's Alpha even on Act 1 and we'll never see the other acts before release.

Now you see why Larian was shocked a million people bought into this.

So you're blaming Larian, even though they constantly and very loudly stated that this is nowhere near complete, is buggy, and laggy, and will have crashes, and is far from a finished product, made the decision to buy it anyway, and are complaining and trying to shame the company who very clearly stated that your entire issue with the game is exactly what they told everyone, but it's their fault?

Seems legit. xD

I agree with Eddiar; I mean look at OPs name... Clearly an edgelord that just wants attention.

Tautological: needless repetition of an idea, especially in words other than those of the immediate context, without imparting additional force or clearness, as in “widow woman.”

Fitting nickname.

You paid, now you can complain as much as you want we have your money

You just misunderstand what "Early access" is.

Its not a "pre-release" or any kind of "get the game before other people". Despite the name being misleading to those who dont know, and never bothered to read about it, this is a beta - released as as such only under a different term for purposes of marketing - in order to get some money and early public reactions - which are then more or less incorporated into the further development. The bugs, the glitches, various missing dialogues or cobbled quests, the lack of full optimization - thats all a part of the "early access" - which is basically a public beta.

Once the game is actually complete you will get the full game without spending another dollar or euro on it.
Thats what you bought too.

This right now is a stage of polishing. And the feedback they get from many players is helping polishing it and changing it and improving it.
The players in turn get an early, unpolished but representative experience to see what the studio intends for the game, its story, mechanics and so on.

Your silly complaints only mean you never bothered to check what the early access really is, because it felt better to you to just imagine its some kind of "early demo - release". It isnt, nobody ever said it is and Steam and Valve made sure to explain all that very clearly so they are covered from any accusations like yours.

Now you know. So you can stop being ridiculous.

Textbook Karen, I guess.

Gotta love misinformed entitled consumers.

@OP should try to play the game on a PC and leave the potato for dinner.

He's right though. An EA should really do its best to showcase the developers vision and mechanics in a limited scope. So it should be functionally complete and impressive within that limited scope. For example, implementation of a restricted number of classes, with said classes being complete; a functional story for Act 1; a restricted spell list but all the features around these spells working; similarly for skills. The EA isn't like this - it is half-baked in almost every feature. Any dev that took just a day of their time to play through their own game so far would see countless easy improvements that they can make on the opening act. It doesn't need us to tell them about them, or a large statistical playerbase to balance combat - they just need to open their eyes.

In other words, the only reason for an EA was for financing. It was not to improve the game via feedback or even showcase something they are proud of. That might come later, but it is nowhere near it yet.

I don't get it don't you read what you buy before you buy it? Do I need to quote the dissimilars on the steam pages, or is it a waste of time?

Alright, if you want to go down that route, the store page has a dev quote: "We’ve worked hard to release an Early Access version that feels complete, fun to play, and has as little stub (unfinished) content as possible." I agree that this is what an EA should be - but this is not the current state of EA. Almost everything is (as they themselves put it) a "stub".

For your convenience, the full text for context is:

Well what's so wrong about it? I'm looking for the big lie/scam you people continue to hint at

You are mistaken. EA is all about allowing people to play an UNFINISHED product in order to incorporate player feedback at an early stage. It is NOT meant as a demo. It is by definitition unfinished. Read what it says on the tin on steam.

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Also:



Content means story in this context, not bug-free or all systems finished. And the story seems mostly complete, like a solid 90%.

I don't understand why I bother arguing with them at all. They already paid so they did their part in improving this game as far as I see it they can keep whine all day long

I don't think it is a scam at all. But I do think the EA was premature and probably financially motivated. Do you honestly think that the "Early Access version that feels complete, fun to play, and has as little stub (unfinished) content as possible"? I realise you are not a native English speaker, but surely you can see the inconsistency between the wording and the actual in-game content?



I even gave you a quote from the steam store page. You can just scroll up and read it yourself. Their claim to "as little stub (unfinished) content as possible" clearly contradicts your view.

I've seen full releases that were worse than what the EA in its current state offers. And as I already said: the content is there. You just seem to interpret that content means "bugfree and all systems", instead of "Act 1 of three". They even mention Act 1 in your own quote from the steam page. Now tell me: what is Act 1 severely missing? A few minor side quests here and there, yes. But the brunt of it seems to be there.

I think people had this vision in their head of what EA is and couldn't handle the hype, only to buy something they weren't sure they wanted.

To the original poster:

Did you not read the multiple, repeated warnings from Larian that 'Early Access' was not close to a "finished game", and that anyone expecting such should not buy Early Access? They warned about bugs and stability/playability problems, but I still signed on, and I'm happy I did.

After about 81 hours of game play - on four different character builds - I've only encountered two "hard" hard system crashing-problems; the rest of my observations in other posts have been on either gameplay bugs about skills/spells, or just my two cents about 5th edition rules and balance issues. (Again, IMO. )

So it's far from being anywhere close to the alleged title of your irritated troll post.

Having seen games that were worse is not a ringing endorsement, is it? For storytelling alone, Act 1 is missing voice-overs, animations, party interactions, and lots more. For example, the much talked about first meeting with Astarion is presumably not complete. (At least I hope it isn't.) And that is just the narrative part - there are lots and lots of incomplete systems in the game (e.g. the inventory system), which is really surprising given how much is copy/paste from DOS2.

Did you start reading from the fourth section? Try reading the first two sections. They are more than clear on the topic.

If they needed financing, they would have just crowdfunded it like they have with other games. They would have obviously smashed whatever their goal was, so this is objectively incorrect and a horrible take.

I'm not going to join the name calling or anything like that, but I'm curious... what is your computer setup? It sounds like it's having a heck of a time.

So... you are upset that Early Access, clearly and on multiple occasions described as a chance for players to play rough and unfinished Build and help test stuff and provide feedback is what was promised? It seems like you should have listened to Sven and wait for 1.0 release.

No, the pretty great quality is the ringing endorsement. And you still are not refuting any point made, but rather having a blast with a strawman. Neither I, nor Larian have said that it is complete.

The exact words, that you have forgot conveniently fast are:



Now you could get philosophical and ask "but what is possible", which is rather tiresome and pointless. Possible is what they delivered. They have economical and organizational constraints, that neither you or I know. I know it hurts, when you try so hard to achieve a gotcha moment with your quote, but fail so hard when multiple other posters have to remind you that there is more than one paragraph and you did not even read the one you quoted right. Big sad and stuff.

Edit:



Pretty funny that you deliver the answer why it is that way in the same sentence. It is unfinished because it is atm just a copy&paste. You think they just press 3 buttons and a new game system is done, but it is rarely that easy.

You really haven't made any points other than a blind fanboy reaction to criticism. Look, if you think the sun shines out of Larian's arse and Act 1 is complete and fantastic as it is, that is up to you, but I beg to differ and I don't think my view is unreasonable.



After all your inconsistent tiresome fanboy cheerleading, we at last have a point we agree on. BG3 is at the moment, largely a copy and paste from DOS2. They haven't bothered to clean it up, or make it appropriate for D&D 5e or the Faerun setting, and even worse, they haven't made any attempt to develop most of their systems beyond the most basic of stubs. You might think that is worth $60, and more importantly worthy of the legacy of BG, but I don't.

Don't get me wrong. I still strongly hope that they can pull it back and make a wonderful game. But they are off to a poor start.

Given that much of this topic consists of this sort of exchange and whatever points that needed making have been made, I'm closing it.

And a reminder to conduct yourselves in a polite and civilised manner: I don't wish to see the same names coming up again.