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Posted By: OneManArmy We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 21/11/20 01:21 PM
I am not pleased to look at this aesthetically. The fact that she is evil does not mean that her face should look like this, this is too much.
Damn, this is the same evil face that I've seen in the entire history of computer games, she's not even the main antagonist of the whole game.
Why did you do it, designer...
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"The Picture of Dorian Gray", I recommend reading this book to the person who made her face.
Why do you do what you do.
And could you please stop it?
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
And could you please stop it?

If I called the topic "Kaga's face revork - facial expression is too angry", would that be better?

I liked this meme quote
No
frown
Kagha looked like she really wanted to see the manager. ^^
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
And could you please stop it?


+1
Women do not exist to smile and be pretty for you.
Posted By: Abits Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 21/11/20 07:42 PM
Stop. Please
I hope the mods appreciate your sense of humor as much as I do
Posted By: Abits Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 21/11/20 07:43 PM
It was funny in the first ten posts. Now it's something between sad and annoying
I call for an intervention a la AA meetings. OP, say after me, "Hi everyone. I'm OneManArmy and I'm addicted to "we demand more sexy" quotes.
Posted By: Verte Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 21/11/20 07:51 PM
He got a lot of sexy comments, the mission was successful.
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
And could you please stop it?

If I called the topic "Kaga's face revork - facial expression is too angry", would that be better?



yes
I can confirm in this world of freaks someone thinks she is sexy
Originally Posted by Painbringer71
I can confirm in this world of freaks someone thinks she is sexy

I think that her face was deliberately made so angry to make her less attractive, that the player would not want to help her and Larian would not have to waste time writing her root. But still, if such was the task of the designer, he performed it too well, overdid it. Kagha face looks little creepy.

Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Women do not exist to smile and be pretty for you.

It's okay to get angry, have different looks, body positivity, and so on. It's not okay to feel like she was made a freak on purpose

Originally Posted by Abits
Stop. Please

Okay, I won't use a quote about needing more sexy
Retracted
Originally Posted by OneManArmy

Okay, I won't use a quote about needing more sexy


Thank you.

(Still got the feeling you're already coming up with several other ways to sneak in the "more sexy" part though :P )

As for the topic, I don't really see her appearrence as a stereotypical projection of evil, more like a stern person that is under high pressure and who doesn't easliy trusts people.
Originally Posted by ohhimark
The frequency of topics and the mannerism used makes me wonder if OP meets the age requirement for the game.


That is uncalled for. Reel it in.
Fair Point, they should at least try to compile all their feedback and suggestions into a single post. That way less posts wil be buried and its less difficult to find.
Originally Posted by ohhimark
Fair Point, they should at least try to compile all their feedback and suggestions into a single post. That way less posts wil be buried and its less difficult to find.

I had a theory that if I make a separate topic for each suggestion, it increases the chances that they will be noticed and not lost. Maybe I'm right, maybe you right.
We do not know how this feedback is processed. Means the more you talk about a topic, suggest different variations, the more likely it is that at least something will be implemented
If its all in one post at least somewhere itl probably be easier for the devs to copy and paste it into their feedback notes.
Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Women do not exist to smile and be pretty for you.

That's cool, I guess it's a good thing it's a video game then and that it's a fictional character.

Your perspective is great and on point IRL, but in a fantasy RPG where characters are literally created by imagination for the player? Not so much.

To the OP, I'm going to throw my hat in the ring that it's way too many topics of similar subject matter. If it's a matter of wanting more attractive characters, then that could be made one topic. If it's just a joke, then it could have all stayed under one topic.

I admittedly don't want anymore situations like Andromeda, but neither does every character need to be attractive. Khaga sucks as an individual.


Posted By: Svalr Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 02:05 AM
Kagha isn't unattractive, she's just unhinged and crazy.

As opposed to what Hollywood might pretend like, people don't look pretty when they cry or put on crazy faces.
Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Women do not exist to smile and be pretty for you.

She seem more than just capable to smile ...

I tryed screenshot few times ... but then i gived up. -_-

Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Women do not exist to smile and be pretty for you.

She seem more than just capable to smile ...

I tryed screenshot few times ... but then i gived up. -_-



So...if she is capable she should do it all the time, or even at all?
Originally Posted by Blade238
Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Women do not exist to smile and be pretty for you.

That's cool, I guess it's a good thing it's a video game then and that it's a fictional character.

Your perspective is great and on point IRL, but in a fantasy RPG where characters are literally created by imagination for the player? Not so much.





Interesting thoughts. But have you considered this:

oh no, I am become all monsters
Originally Posted by PrivateRaccoon
So...if she is capable she should do it all the time, or even at all?

Not sure if i understand what do you mean. O_o
People are asking for something they allready have ... so there is no need for any change.
Rename her to "Karen"?

Well, after my 5th playthrough i still don't like her. Never did. But i also never though about her face in that manner.
Always thought what a bitch, should not be a druid. When i found out what she is it was a real "AHHH" moment smile
Posted By: EMC_V Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 10:41 AM
Sounds like the OP wants to see the manager XD

I think her expresions work well to comunicate the kind of character that she is: not nice. Not all characters need to be nice or liked. Some characters are there to be hated, which is a great motivator. Kagha is not Aerie or Arybeth. The purpose in the story is not to be eyecandy. I think there is a tieflin bard that covers that. Hell, for a sexy female enemy you do have Mintara. So that is already covered.

And for some people, having all female characters be eyecandy detracts from the game and the story in the same way it would detract from the story if we complained about mindflayers not being sexy. Or the zentarim not being nice. To me your post sounds like this: "Oh no! Raphael is not sexy and doesn't smile!". And demons are supposed to be seductive. But it is OK, Raphael has another approach.

Anyway, I do like the variety of expresions and characters and I suspect that I'm not the only one. So I hope they don't change Kagha or other female characters to a blander and more boring version.
Yes, okay. I think a face rework is necessary only if the rework will concern the whole Kagha-root, which Vhaldez wrote about in his topic.

Her grimaces seem to say "you can't help me with me, I'm bad"
We Demand More Sexy Male Enemies. Larian please add. I won't even mind if they glare all the time I promise.
Posted By: EMC_V Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 11:30 AM
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
We Demand More Sexy Male Enemies. Larian please add. I won't even mind if they glare all the time I promise.


I second this. XD
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
We Demand More Sexy Male Enemies. Larian please add. I won't even mind if they glare all the time I promise.


I second this. XD


Yes, it would be nice for girls to enjoy the game too. Although Astarion and Raphael look like charismatic bad guys, do you like them?

You would love the opportunity to have an affair with Raphael?
Posted By: EMC_V Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 12:52 PM
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
We Demand More Sexy Male Enemies. Larian please add. I won't even mind if they glare all the time I promise.


I second this. XD


Yes, it would be nice for girls to enjoy the game too. Although Astarion and Raphael look like charismatic bad guys, do you like them?

You would love the opportunity to have an affair with Raphael?


Astarion is Ok as a character. Is fun, even if he is blunt and say things like "you are staring again". I don't mind that Astarion is written as not nice. But I'm not sure I would call him charismatic. I guess we do have different points of view. As for the romance, right now it looks more as a "fling" thing.

Raphael, as you can deduce from my previous post, I don't see him as charismatic or attractive. I don't think he is meant to be any of those things anyway. The "affair" with Raphael would only be interesting in a completelly different scenario. For example, one where the demon pose as someone sexy and you don't know is a demon. Usually this works better when the demos start posing as a "person in distress" and ask for very minor things, and then the demon scalates to more moraly questionable stuff. But since you are already engaged, you might fail to realize that.

But no, I don't think Raphael is charismatic at all. Neither sexy or attractive. He is pretty much cardboard evil. XD His scene works, but not in a sexy way. And I accept that. I mean, some people might find uncomfortable if Raphael flirts and then, the companions would be out of place in the scene.

But since you ask, do you wanted Kagha to be a romantic option and that is why you don't like the character being mean/anthagonistic?
Raphael definitely doesn't seem the flirty type no. Astarion is the most interesting one so far but the flamboyancy is a little bit of a turn off so I have my hopes set on his master. Go straight for the top I say. Maybe together we can torture Astarion for another 200 years and we'll have Wyll and Gale to keep him company this time.
Posted By: Verte Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
We Demand More Sexy Male Enemies. Larian please add. I won't even mind if they glare all the time I promise.


I second this. XD


Yes, it would be nice for girls to enjoy the game too. Although Astarion and Raphael look like charismatic bad guys, do you like them?

You would love the opportunity to have an affair with Raphael?


I enjoy the game as it is. I found Astarion annoying rather than atractive and Raphael is nothing special, he this typical bureaucrat string I don't want to play on. Cazador might be charismatic but it doesn't make him romantic interest. Also charismatic doesn't have to be evil. I would like to see some neutral charismatic guy.
Originally Posted by UnknownEvil
Rename her to "Karen"?

Well, after my 5th playthrough i still don't like her. Never did. But i also never though about her face in that manner.
Always thought what a bitch, should not be a druid. When i found out what she is it was a real "AHHH" moment smile




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Originally Posted by EMC_V
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by EMC_V
[quote=Moirnelithe]We Demand More Sexy Male Enemies. Larian please add. I won't even mind if they glare all the time I promise.


I second this. XD



But since you ask, do you wanted Kagha to be a romantic option and that is why you don't like the character being mean/anthagonistic?



I would like the game to have the ability to play an elf who helps the druids and the elf Kaga, and has the motivation to support the druids and not the tieflings as a side of the conflict. Kagha can be a reward along the way, just like Minthara in the goblin route.

To do this, Larian needs to little reduce the level of evil among these druids (At least without killing children), and do something with the creepy grimaces on Kagha's face. This could be a potentially interesting roleplaying story, now in the Grove of the Druids we are offered a choice without a choice
I'd be more happy if they'd remove the creepy grimaces from MY character first. I just started a new playthrough as a good (yuk ugh vomit) goody two shoes sylune cleric and some of her facial expressions made me want to go all chaotic evil on Larian's ass.
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
I'd be more happy if they'd remove the creepy grimaces from MY character first.

Need a screen please
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
I'd be more happy if they'd remove the creepy grimaces from MY character first.

Need a screen please


Why on earth would I want to capture that grimace and immortalize it for eternity? Just make a female half-elf and you'll know what I'm talking about, can't miss it.

ps. It's in the nautilus bit and if I remember correctly when you remove Us from the skull and it sprouts tentacles. It also gets reused throughout Act 1 w/e the main character is surprised. She looks like a giant spider jump-scared her.
Posted By: EMC_V Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 04:38 PM
Quote



I would like the game to have the ability to play an elf who helps the druids and the elf Kaga, and has the motivation to support the druids and not the tieflings as a side of the conflict. Kagha can be a reward along the way, just like Minthara in the goblin route.

To do this, Larian needs to little reduce the level of evil among these druids (At least without killing children), and do something with the creepy grimaces on Kagha's face. This could be a potentially interesting roleplaying story, now in the Grove of the Druids we are offered a choice without a choice


You can play an elf who helps both the druids and Tieflin. You can do that by exposing Kagha and rescuing Halsing. The reward is doing what you think is right. I've chosen that a couple of times. If you speak with different druids, you learn about not all druids wanting to cast tieflins outside.

Of course, if you expect to have a sexy female "as a reward", then your only option is Mintara. But think about this, why then people who aren't attracted to women would do quest? I mean, male NPCs aren't rewards as Mintara is. And as you want Kagha to be. XD

I think the point is, there are nice druids, bug Kagha isn't. She is a shadow druid like Faldorn was (neutral evil) and she is not a reward.
Right now, you have the same motivations than me to help the druids. Having Kagha as a nice girl wuo pays in sex would detract from the internal conflict in the druid grove. Since you arrive at a coup d'etat by shadow druids and her being nasty is your clue to look deeper and speak with other druids to find out what us happening.

As an experimento, I would like to see what would happen if you substituye Raphael with a really hot woman that openly offers sex as part of the deal.

But from my perspective, there is no need of having princesses Peach waiting at the end of the level. wink
Originally Posted by EMC_V
But think about this, why then people who aren't attracted to women would do quest? I mean, male NPCs aren't rewards as Mintara is. And as you want Kagha to be. XD


Originally Posted by EMC_V
As an experimento, I would like to see what would happen if you substituye Raphael with a really hot woman that openly offers sex as part of the deal.


Heh. I also wonder how reactions to Mizora would be different if he was a sexy naked male wrapping himself around Wyll in the promo art. And what if it was male Mizora, female Wyll?

Anyway, why do we need Kagha as a "reward" for siding with the druids? We already have Halsin! Halsin romance when?
Posted By: Verte Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel

Heh. I also wonder how reactions to Mizora would be different if he was a sexy male wrapping himself around Wyll in the promo art.

Why do we need Kagha as a "reward" for siding with the druids? We already have Halsin! Halsin romance when?


We have Astarion, no need for another queer. Part of the reason I make male MCs is lack of atractive male NPCs, finally some nice pixels to look at. They throw flamboyant Astarion or big boy Halsin at my feet, just meh. Gale could work but long hair and manipulative personality is a no-go flag. Oh well.
Posted By: EMC_V Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Originally Posted by EMC_V
But think about this, why then people who aren't attracted to women would do quest? I mean, male NPCs aren't rewards as Mintara is. And as you want Kagha to be. XD


Originally Posted by EMC_V
As an experimento, I would like to see what would happen if you substituye Raphael with a really hot woman that openly offers sex as part of the deal.


Heh. I also wonder how reactions to Mizora would be different if he was a sexy naked male wrapping himself around Wyll in the promo art. And what if it was male Mizora, female Wyll?

Anyway, why do we need Kagha as a "reward" for siding with the druids? We already have Halsin! Halsin romance when?


I would find the option to gender bent compsnions quite compelling. But even as "origins" we are told that it is not feasible because "voice acting". Although you might be on point, a female Wyll with a male Mizara breaks expectations. Same way a make Shadowheart would made some people uncomfortable.

Halsin as companion and potential romance would be great.

As for need of queer romances or romances with male characters, well, there is the same need as we have for heterosexual romances for males. Yet, depending who you ask, it might be something we like. It all comes down to preferences. Assuming that offering just one for others while you should have several reminds me of the Anomen fiasco. Very baldurs gate, but hardly fair. πŸ™„
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Assuming that offering just one for others while you should have several reminds me of the Anomen fiasco.


weeps quietly

Thank goodness for modders who restored Valygar and Haer'Dalis and added other, new options. Even Anomen has his fans, though, and at least there was a male romance option, instead of nothing. Larian seems to be making an effort to put it all right and mostly succeeding. Just remember, OP - sexiness for all includes sexy men too!
Posted By: EMC_V Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 22/11/20 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Assuming that offering just one for others while you should have several reminds me of the Anomen fiasco.


weeps quietly

Thank goodness for modders who restored Valygar and Haer'Dalis and added other, new options. Even Anomen has his fans, though, and at least there was a male romance option, instead of nothing. Larian seems to be making an effort to put it all right and mostly succeeding. Just remember, OP - sexiness for all includes sexy men too!



So true, modders are gold. And options is what works better. I don't mind that companions are all "playersexual". I think that is the easier solution. Also, having the gender offering balanced. That is also what seems to work better to maximize profits, since you reach a broader market that otherwise would buy niche games.
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Kagha can be a reward along the way, just like Minthara in the goblin route.



This is the second time I've seen you express this idea. Do you have any idea how gross this is?
Maybe he just wants to have more representation for trophy wives in this age of representation. Or he just wants to provoke a bit. Seriously, don't take this thread seriously. It is named as a meme and probably intended as a joke.
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Assuming that offering just one for others while you should have several reminds me of the Anomen fiasco.


weeps quietly

Thank goodness for modders who restored Valygar and Haer'Dalis and added other, new options. Even Anomen has his fans, though, and at least there was a male romance option, instead of nothing. Larian seems to be making an effort to put it all right and mostly succeeding. Just remember, OP - sexiness for all includes sexy men too!





I fully support this opinion, and for gender equality!
But as a heterosexual guy who likes girls, I can't discuss men who need to be added as romantic interest, improved, and so on - I'm just not very good at male sexuality. But you can suggest!

Regarding gay romances in the game, the most important thing is that they cannot be stumbled upon by accident, only for those who are specifically looking for it. There is nothing worse if a neutral conversation with Astarion, where you chose the wrong line in the dialogues and got gay sex

Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Kagha can be a reward along the way, just like Minthara in the goblin route.



This is the second time I've seen you express this idea. Do you have any idea how gross this is?



We're not talking about real people, but about a computer game. Therefore, I do not see anything "gross" about this being a way to motivate the player to help the druids. One way, not the only one.
Khalsin is also a reward in some way, and deserves the same content as Kagha for those who support it.
Any characters are a prize if we help them and get from them the status of a companion, romances, new quests and content related to this character and so on. Respect from these characters in the end, so that whoever helped them would be pleased. I didn't mean just sex.
This motivates more than any artifacts, valuable drops, and so on.

Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Originally Posted by EMC_V
But think about this, why then people who aren't attracted to women would do quest? I mean, male NPCs aren't rewards as Mintara is. And as you want Kagha to be. XD


Originally Posted by EMC_V
As an experimento, I would like to see what would happen if you substituye Raphael with a really hot woman that openly offers sex as part of the deal.


Heh. I also wonder how reactions to Mizora would be different if he was a sexy naked male wrapping himself around Wyll in the promo art. And what if it was male Mizora, female Wyll?

Anyway, why do we need Kagha as a "reward" for siding with the druids? We already have Halsin! Halsin romance when?


I also wonder that. I used to roll my eyes at the OP's posts but I've come to appreciate his role as the Lorax for the horny. "I am OneManArmy and I speak for the horny"

I've no desire for a Khaga romance but I'm okay with sexualized clothing *if* it's applied in a "sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" manner. If we are going to have Mizora as a seductress lets also have Cazador as an Incubus. If the model for a given robe is cut all the way to the pelvis make that design apply regardless of gender.

Should be safe for work but the IT guy might give you a sideways glance: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/801288958691831496/
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Assuming that offering just one for others while you should have several reminds me of the Anomen fiasco.


weeps quietly

Thank goodness for modders who restored Valygar and Haer'Dalis and added other, new options. Even Anomen has his fans, though, and at least there was a male romance option, instead of nothing. Larian seems to be making an effort to put it all right and mostly succeeding. Just remember, OP - sexiness for all includes sexy men too!





I fully support this opinion, and for gender equality!
But as a heterosexual guy who likes girls, I can't discuss men who need to be added as romantic interest, improved, and so on - I'm just not very good at male sexuality. But you can suggest!

Regarding gay romances in the game, the most important thing is that they cannot be stumbled upon by accident, only for those who are specifically looking for it. There is nothing worse if a neutral conversation with Astarion, where you chose the wrong line in the dialogues and got gay sex

Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Kagha can be a reward along the way, just like Minthara in the goblin route.



This is the second time I've seen you express this idea. Do you have any idea how gross this is?



We're not talking about real people, but about a computer game. Therefore, I do not see anything "gross" about this being a way to motivate the player to help the druids. One way, not the only one.
Khalsin is also a reward in some way, and deserves the same content as Kagha for those who support it.
Any characters are a prize if we help them and get from them the status of a companion, romances, new quests and content related to this character and so on. Respect from these characters in the end, so that whoever helped them would be pleased. I didn't mean just sex.
This motivates more than any artifacts, valuable drops, and so on.




The problem with saying "It's just a video game, it's not real" is that how a medium represents relatable topics such as romances, stereotypes, equality etc is a perfect reflection of what's socially acceptable in modern society. That is why companies such as Disney no longer depicts dark hued children as piccaninnies in their new animated movies even though they used to. That's also why you find better repressentation of different sexual orientations in modern movies etc.

Promoting characters, that even though they don't exist still represents the idea of a person, as prizes is not something I can relate to. Not every character is there to please us. And they shouldn't. They are there to tell a story, their story. How our characters react and behave in accordance with that story is up to us players to decide but in no regard can we demand gratitude for helping them.

Also..."There is nothing worse if a neutral conversation with Astarion, where you chose the wrong line in the dialogues and got gay sex"? Nothing worse? You really wanna stand by that? I would claim that discovering that your character is atleast openminded to sexual experimentation is quite harmless. It might not have been how you intended to roleplay your character but come on, is some pixelated male sex really the worst thing in the world for you? After all, it's just a video game, it''s not real smile
Originally Posted by PrivateRaccoon
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Assuming that offering just one for others while you should have several reminds me of the Anomen fiasco.


weeps quietly

Thank goodness for modders who restored Valygar and Haer'Dalis and added other, new options. Even Anomen has his fans, though, and at least there was a male romance option, instead of nothing. Larian seems to be making an effort to put it all right and mostly succeeding. Just remember, OP - sexiness for all includes sexy men too!





I fully support this opinion, and for gender equality!
But as a heterosexual guy who likes girls, I can't discuss men who need to be added as romantic interest, improved, and so on - I'm just not very good at male sexuality. But you can suggest!

Regarding gay romances in the game, the most important thing is that they cannot be stumbled upon by accident, only for those who are specifically looking for it. There is nothing worse if a neutral conversation with Astarion, where you chose the wrong line in the dialogues and got gay sex

Originally Posted by Firesnakearies
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Kagha can be a reward along the way, just like Minthara in the goblin route.



This is the second time I've seen you express this idea. Do you have any idea how gross this is?



We're not talking about real people, but about a computer game. Therefore, I do not see anything "gross" about this being a way to motivate the player to help the druids. One way, not the only one.
Khalsin is also a reward in some way, and deserves the same content as Kagha for those who support it.
Any characters are a prize if we help them and get from them the status of a companion, romances, new quests and content related to this character and so on. Respect from these characters in the end, so that whoever helped them would be pleased. I didn't mean just sex.
This motivates more than any artifacts, valuable drops, and so on.



Also..."There is nothing worse if a neutral conversation with Astarion, where you chose the wrong line in the dialogues and got gay sex"? Nothing worse? You really wanna stand by that? I would claim that discovering that your character is atleast openminded to sexual experimentation is quite harmless. It might not have been how you intended to roleplay your character but come on, is some pixelated male sex really the worst thing in the world for you? After all, it's just a video game, it''s not real smile




No, no, you misunderstood. I am not embarrassed by the presence of same-sex sex in the game, there are just some other games in which you have a conversation with your party member, choose some option in the dialogue trying to cheer up a friend or make a joke, and in the end you think "holy shit, what is happening, I don't wanted it ". As a result, there are scenes of same-sex love, the state of the relationship with this member of the group shows that you have an affair, and so on


In BG 3 there is no such problem, fortunately, here a romance can only be started on purpose
ah. ok. phew. was beginning to almost lose a little amount of respect for you there smile
Posted By: Verte Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 23/11/20 06:09 AM
What a strange times we live in.
Posted By: EMC_V Re: We Demand More Sexy Kagha facial features - 23/11/20 07:37 AM
Ok, I would try to explain the "why female characters aa rewards" is a trope that reinforces real world "women as property". But it is basically about context. This videogame would be played not just in US, it would also be played in places where women are not equal even in the law. In US there are still people complaining about women being able to vote and women face things like "I buy her a neal, so she owes me sex". So ""females as rewards" even fictional ones send the message that they are in the right. It might not be the intention, but that would be the result anyway. Path to hell, good intentions, etc.

Now, Kagha is clearly designed for a diferent role than "reward". She is meant to be harsh and dominate the grove by fear, not by being likable. We have seen plenty of male characters like Kagha and no one has asked for a sex reward by them. Because that was never the point of that character. If Kagha was male, would you ask for the character to ve turner into female so he can be a reward? No.

Right now things are more or less balanced. You hace 3 females and 3 males to romance. Changing Kagha would make her less fearsome and less interesting story wise for the people who aren't interested in "female as a reward". Not just that, but to balance things out, it would require to add a "male as a reward" un each faction. So who is supposed to be the "male reward" if you side with the goblins? The hobgoblin king? Then "we demand he look like David Bowie in labirynth". πŸ˜‚

Of course, then dome people might complain about not having a fearsome enemy, but David Bowie!!! πŸ˜‚ see how it works?

Don't worry, I'm sure that Larian would Introduce some cheese cake, probably brothels , and at least one good female romance. But it won't be Kagha, since she covers other role in the game: antagonist to good characters.

PS: now I kind of want a David Bowie based character πŸ˜‚ damn me πŸ˜‚
Originally Posted by EMC_V

PS: now I kind of want a David Bowie based character πŸ˜‚ damn me πŸ˜‚


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Originally Posted by EMC_V
Ok, I would try to explain the "why female characters aa rewards" is a trope that reinforces real world "women as property". But it is basically about context. This videogame would be played not just in US, it would also be played in places where women are not equal even in the law. In US there are still people complaining about women being able to vote and women face things like "I buy her a neal, so she owes me sex". So ""females as rewards" even fictional ones send the message that they are in the right. It might not be the intention, but that would be the result anyway. Path to hell, good intentions, etc.

Now, Kagha is clearly designed for a diferent role than "reward". She is meant to be harsh and dominate the grove by fear, not by being likable. We have seen plenty of male characters like Kagha and no one has asked for a sex reward by them. Because that was never the point of that character. If Kagha was male, would you ask for the character to ve turner into female so he can be a reward? No.

Right now things are more or less balanced. You hace 3 females and 3 males to romance. Changing Kagha would make her less fearsome and less interesting story wise for the people who aren't interested in "female as a reward". Not just that, but to balance things out, it would require to add a "male as a reward" un each faction. So who is supposed to be the "male reward" if you side with the goblins? The hobgoblin king? Then "we demand he look like David Bowie in labirynth". πŸ˜‚

Of course, then dome people might complain about not having a fearsome enemy, but David Bowie!!! πŸ˜‚ see how it works?

Don't worry, I'm sure that Larian would Introduce some cheese cake, probably brothels , and at least one good female romance. But it won't be Kagha, since she covers other role in the game: antagonist to good characters.




This.
Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Originally Posted by EMC_V
Originally Posted by Moirnelithe
We Demand More Sexy Male Enemies. Larian please add. I won't even mind if they glare all the time I promise.

I second this. XD

Yes, it would be nice for girls to enjoy the game too. Although Astarion and Raphael look like charismatic bad guys, do you like them?

You would love the opportunity to have an affair with Raphael?
Absolutely yes😍! I find him very attractive and charming❀
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