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Posted By: Arne We need Sorcerers - 21/11/20 05:54 PM
I always liked to play a sorcerer. Charismatic, powerful spells, they have it all.

To my horror, I had to realize that this class was not included in the early access. Instead, superfluous classes like fighters, wizards and even rogues were available!

After this initial shock, I was sulking a little ("Bah, Larian, if you don't give me my class, I won't play your game!"). Then, however, I had to endure the most excruciating experience in my entire life: I played the game as a *Wizard*.

Needless to say that he was a completely un-charismatic, downright repulsive nerd. He wasn't loved by either goblins, druids or the better sex, didn't get additional quest rewards, wasn't praised for his good looks or admired for his laid back nature. In the end, he ended up drinking with Ethel discussing why no one likes them.

The reason, of course, was obvious: It was the god's (Read: Larian's) fault that they turned out so ugly. If they had been given the option of a sorcerer class, Ethel would have been a kind and benevolent witch. And my wizard would have been a sorcerer easily talking the Illithids, Goblins and Druids into making peace and giving him all their valuables.
Posted By: Drath Malorn Re: We need Sorcerers - 21/11/20 06:10 PM
Entertaining story. Good try.
Posted By: Tarlonniel Re: We need Sorcerers - 21/11/20 06:20 PM
Good post, but you kept spelling "bard" wrong.
Posted By: JustAnotherBaldu Re: We need Sorcerers - 21/11/20 07:27 PM
Wizards & Sorcerers are not the same?
Let me guess "Mages" are another thing as well huh? ^^
Time to feel like the biggest D&D noob of all times. The more I know the worse I feel. ^^


I kinda miss the Necromancer.
Want my Army of Darkness. ^^
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 21/11/20 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Good post, but you kept spelling "bard" wrong.

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Beards? Beards are definitely something we need as well wink
Posted By: Sadurian Re: We need Sorcerers - 21/11/20 09:48 PM
You can find loaves of bread in the game.
Posted By: SaurianDruid Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 12:16 AM
You could've just gone with warlock if you wanted to be a spellcaster that has high charisma.
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 01:45 AM
Originally Posted by SaurianDruid
You could've just gone with warlock if you wanted to be a spellcaster that has high charisma.


Yes, my character could have turned to worship demons and fiends to find salvation. Chtulu would also have been an option. Celestials and fey are obviously abhorred by the inscrutable gods of this world.

Which brings my char back to drinking with Ethel wink
Posted By: Tarlonniel Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 01:58 AM
Originally Posted by Arne
Yes, my character could have turned to worship demons and fiends. Which brings him back to drinking with Ethel wink


No no, forget those infernal types - you need to join the GOO warlock club. Nyarlathotep can be very charismatic when he's not doing his crawling chaos thing. You'll like him.

We do still need bards, though.
Posted By: PrivateRaccoon Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 02:58 AM
I'm with OP on this. Join the sorc fan club y'all!

I do want to see Larian deal with the fundamental game mechanics like combat, conversations, inventory an ui etc, making changes based on player feedback, first though,, before adding more playable content, as doing it the otherway around sends the signal they are happy with the current state of the game and intend to move forward with the design in place. I'm actually getting my hope up somewhat that the current silence from the devs means they are making major changes already.
Posted By: Svalr Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 03:00 AM
I am looking forward to Sorcerer too, I know that there's Warlocks but I really prefer to play as CHA characters just for RP reasons xD.
I like it when my character is the one doing the talking.
Posted By: RagnarokCzD Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 03:38 AM
Originally Posted by Arne
The reason, of course, was obvious: It was the god's (Read: Larian's) fault that they turned out so ugly. If they had been given the option of a sorcerer class, Ethel would have been a kind and benevolent witch. And my wizard would have been a sorcerer easily talking the Illithids, Goblins and Druids into making peace and giving him all their valuables.

This may seem like odd question ... but since i allready had my fair share of badly distribued statistic ...
(deleted 3 characters, since i did them wrong :D)

What exactly was stoping you in creating huge-charismatic Wizzard? O_o

Also, the last thing this world need is bard. -_-
But i dont see any monks around here!
Posted By: N7Greenfire Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by Arne
The reason, of course, was obvious: It was the god's (Read: Larian's) fault that they turned out so ugly. If they had been given the option of a sorcerer class, Ethel would have been a kind and benevolent witch. And my wizard would have been a sorcerer easily talking the Illithids, Goblins and Druids into making peace and giving him all their valuables.

This may seem like odd question ... but since i allready had my fair share of badly distribued statistic ...
(deleted 3 characters, since i did them wrong :D)

What exactly was stoping you in creating huge-charismatic Wizzard? O_o

Also, the last thing this world need is bard. -_-
But i dont see any monks around here!

I mean theoretically you can do q high cha wizard, the extra cha is just useless in combat
Posted By: RagnarokCzD Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 04:03 AM
Aswell as intellect is in conversations. laugh
Posted By: SorcererVictor Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 04:42 AM
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Yes, my character could have turned to worship demons and fiends. Which brings him back to drinking with Ethel wink



Warlocks doesn't worship then. Doesn't draw their power from then. They are just the masters and warlocks, the apprentices.

Vader and Palpatine are probably how their relationship works. Vader doesn't leech power from Palpatine, but he depends heavily on the teachings of palpatine and palpatine can order Vader to do thins for him.
Posted By: Lethan Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 06:20 AM
Sorc is pretty much my favourite. Loved it in 3.5, Pathfinder, 4th editions and I typically play a spellcaster in RPG's.

The long gap in updates hint at something big. It doesn't need to be in full working order. I just want to mess with all the main classes!
Posted By: Kou The Mad Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 06:38 AM
I want to be a Sorcerer so I can grow wings or crazy things like that.
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 10:04 AM
Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Originally Posted by Arne
Yes, my character could have turned to worship demons and fiends. Which brings him back to drinking with Ethel wink


No no, forget those infernal types - you need to join the GOO warlock club. Nyarlathotep can be very charismatic when he's not doing his crawling chaos thing. You'll like him.


I can't even pronounce that! Why can't I make a pact with someone nice, a pretty celestial or a funny fey? That would also be a better romance option than the eternally grumpy, aptly named Shadowheart wink

Originally Posted by Tarlonniel

We do still need bards, though.


Hell, yes! Bardiches are cool. A sorcerer armed with a bardiche can poke Goblins from afar. wink
Posted By: Peranor Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 10:06 AM
I agree. I love the Sorcerer class. But since that class is missing I had to roll a warlock instead.
But i'm positive that the Sorcerer class will be added to the game later. By Larian that is, not by modders (who have already added the class).
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 10:08 AM
Originally Posted by PrivateRaccoon
I'm with OP on this. Join the sorc fan club y'all!


Exactly.

With a sorcerer we could have something like the secret Far Cry 4 ending. We could simply sit down with the Illithids, drink some cocoa/brain cocktail and talk things out. After several ludicrously easy DC 20 persuasion checks, we could convince them to henceforth grow their brains in vats. The credits would roll and the game would be over in under 5 min.
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD

This may seem like odd question ... but since i allready had my fair share of badly distribued statistic ...
(deleted 3 characters, since i did them wrong :D)

What exactly was stoping you in creating huge-charismatic Wizzard? O_o


(1) You would need to initially invest into both charisma and intelligence. Which means you would have much lower dexterity (armor class) and constitution (hit points)
(2) Throughout the game, you can raise your attributes when leveling up. This will usually go into your main statistics, resulting in intelligence 18-20 Wizards and charisma 18-20 Sorcerers. Distributing this to several stats doesn't work very well.

Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD

Also, the last thing this world need is bard. -_-


But Bards are very useful! You can arm your Sorcerer with them and whack Goblins.
Posted By: Dexai Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 10:34 AM
I prefer Halbards for that
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 12:54 PM
Originally Posted by Peranor

But i'm positive that the Sorcerer class will be added to the game later. By Larian that is, not by modders (who have already added the class).


What? When, where? Where do I get that mod? Why didn't anyone tell me?
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by Peranor
I agree. I love the Sorcerer class. But since that class is missing I had to roll a warlock instead.
But i'm positive that the Sorcerer class will be added to the game later. By Larian that is, not by modders (who have already added the class).


baldur's gate 3 sorcerer mod

You, kind sir, are a saint. You single-handedly saved my poor Wizard Sorcerer from a Sunday afternoon getting wasted with Ethel.
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 22/11/20 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Arne
Originally Posted by Peranor
I agree. I love the Sorcerer class. But since that class is missing I had to roll a warlock instead.
But i'm positive that the Sorcerer class will be added to the game later. By Larian that is, not by modders (who have already added the class).


baldur's gate 3 sorcerer mod



Ok, little caveat. I own the game on GoG and just installed the sorcerer mod. But instead of starting the game I'm being dumped into some kind of test area.

The same goes for other mods. I assume it's either differences between steam and gog or they meanwhile updated their game too much. Maybe I'll find some solution.
Posted By: Peranor Re: We need Sorcerers - 23/11/20 05:26 PM
Originally Posted by Arne
Originally Posted by Arne
Originally Posted by Peranor
I agree. I love the Sorcerer class. But since that class is missing I had to roll a warlock instead.
But i'm positive that the Sorcerer class will be added to the game later. By Larian that is, not by modders (who have already added the class).


baldur's gate 3 sorcerer mod



Ok, little caveat. I own the game on GoG and just installed the sorcerer mod. But instead of starting the game I'm being dumped into some kind of test area.

The same goes for other mods. I assume it's either differences between steam and gog or they meanwhile updated their game too much. Maybe I'll find some solution.



Thanks smile I did not know that. I own the game on Steam, but i havent tested any mods myself yet. I just keep an eye out on Nexus to see what the modders are able to come up with smile
Posted By: Arne Re: We need Sorcerers - 23/11/20 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by Peranor

Thanks smile I did not know that. I own the game on Steam, but i havent tested any mods myself yet. I just keep an eye out on Nexus to see what the modders are able to come up with smile


Apparently, this weird testing area has come up with others on nexusmods as well. Seems to be prevalent among GoG users. But they don't know yet what causes it.
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