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#822786 22/07/22 08:25 PM
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Did you ever manage to steal the Idol? I just can't manage it. Even back in the day, when I let Astarion live and join the group, I wasn't able to steal it. Any suggestions?


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Potion of invisibility? Mage Hand throw works too. The one time I did steal it, was that way. Of course don't stick around unless you want to pass a 'very' hard persuasion check.
I think I did it in turn-based mode too

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I tried potion of invisibility - tha tsomehow didn't work. I didn't try mage hand - might use that


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So I just happened to be at the grove, and the sure fire way of stealing it directly is of course to cast fog on the plinth and just sneak in a take it. easy peasy. I always forget that, I'll probably be using that to steal the secret chamber key next.

The time I stole the idol last, was after the grove quest was over, so that probably made it easier. Just throwing it from the plinth while they're casting the ritual will trigger the "the Idol is stolen!" cutscene, but doing it when they're not is just like anything else.

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Best time to steal the idol is after you've dealt with Kagha, because afterwards they no longer perform the ritual, so nobody is really looking at it. So you can just crouch next to it, grab it and run.

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Cloud of fog, darkness... both work.

If you steal it while they're doing the ritual, it will lead to the druids fighting the tieflings.

If you steal it after the ritual has ended then it's like stealing anything else.

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Originally Posted by JandK
If you steal it after the ritual has ended then it's like stealing anything else.
I hope this get adressed ...


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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by JandK
If you steal it after the ritual has ended then it's like stealing anything else.
I hope this get adressed ...

How so?

I think it's working the way it's intended right now.

When Halsin is scolding Kagha, part of what he's saying is that the idol isn't anywhere close to the value of a human life. Meaning that the druids wouldn't react in the same violent manner over the theft of the idol under Halsin's leadership.

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Maybe not the same violent manner ... but its still their most sacred holy symbol, that should be worth more than just picking some apple with red text. laugh


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I think I'll try the fog spell. I thought, the druids might Go hostile If I use an AoE there.


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I had just done it when I posted, it works but if you do it while they're doing the ritual of thorns, it will trigger the "The Idol is Stolen, kill the tiefs!" scene/

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Originally Posted by Sozz
I had just done it when I posted, it works but if you do it while they're doing the ritual of thorns, it will trigger the "The Idol is Stolen, kill the tiefs!" scene/

Yeah, I'm currently playing a tiefling bard, so I might do that on another run. She already did go through so many trouble to help her fellow tieflings.


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Is there any way to receive the Idol without stealing it?

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Originally Posted by neprostoman
Is there any way to receive the Idol without stealing it?

Well, it’s probably even worse than stealing it, but if you side with the goblins in the grove attack then at some point it’s just sitting all by itself in the room where Kagha and Arabella are originally found.

EDIT: I realise taking it after siding with the goblins could with some justification still be called stealing, but no sneaking is required!

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Originally Posted by neprostoman
Is there any way to receive the Idol without stealing it?

Nope, only by stealing it because they still use the idol's power for protection even after the ritual is stopped.

The NPCs also have different dialogue lines and moods after the grove raid, if the Idol is still present or not.

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The cheese method that works for me is to grab a backpack, bag, or other portable container. Head to the plinth and drop said container next to the plinth. Open the container so you see the little inventory box. Grab the idol and stuff it in the container in one move. Close and pick up the container. Casually stroll away whistling innocently. Druids won't react at all. Works even if they're doing the ritual. They'll carry on like it is still there.


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