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agree lets agree to disagree and all get everything we wish for...

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I am amazed this is still a topic of argument when it's been stated from the beginning that BG3 was going to have sex scenes. Don't want a game with sex scenes? Go play an E rated game. I'll take the belligerent stance of "Screw it, Pornify this game as much as you can just so the people complaining about it leave." We have enough sanitized games out there that you don't need to look for more than a nanosecond to find 100s of RPGs that won't offend your puritan sensibilities.

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Originally Posted by Niara
It seems like there's a number of folks on all sides of this discussion who are falling more into the trap of picking each other apart, than having a directed conversation about a topic; the thread hasn't really covered any new ground in the past two pages, and is drifting more into side topics that some folks are mostly just using to pick and poke at one another. I know it's not my place, but I'd like to encourage all sides of the debate to take a step or two and a breath or two, and focus back in on the opinion you want to voice about the topic at hand, and focus less on trying to tear down people who think or feel otherwise.

The original topic title doesn't help, I admit - it's a bit inflammatory ^.^

Pachanj asked about reasons why they should be there, well for me, several reasons:

- It's a chance to explore an element of my character and define who they are and what they're like in this aspect, and to me that's important.
- Similarly, it's a chance to see other characters at personal and intimate moments, and there's a strong element of immersion involved in having the sorts of conversations that only really happen in intimate pillow scenarios, actually in those scenarios, rather than after the fact with all our clothes back on, where it feels out of place or stilted.
- The immersion element extends to stepping into the place of my character and (ideally) having some influence over how they act and behave in that scenario - and mentally exploring what they experience during it; imagination always plays an important role here, of course, and does the majority of the heavy lifting, but if it's done well, I appreciate the scaffolding of a scene playing out in the process.
- Character direction in intimate sequences also opens up the opportunity for more character customisation in intimate ways; having a complete character and being able to describe many more elements of what that looks like; I personally view this as a positive, though for accessibility, of course, defining your character's intimate details and traits should be optional (in the way that some games do this, it's a check box in character creation that, when you click to enable it, then opens up the related menus and options, but has them not visually existing before you select to engage - I'd like that)
- Lastly, because I'm an adult woman and it's a bit of naughty fun, and I really feel like games can be better if they're more comfortable with some naughty fun adult activity as a natural part of the world and lives they build and portray.


All this turns on the supposition, however, that the scenes as they are need to be vastly improved in their atmosphere, pacing, tone and shooting/choreography to really be satisfying in this way - but I genuinely want them improved, and I don't want Larian to back off from his or get scared. I want them to do better, now that they've taken the biggest step of deciding to go all in.

Making choices that directly effect your character, and their relationship to another character isn't something you've seen a lot in games that have had sex scenes, it's all the more interesting to see what consequences it'll have on the story. It's also why simple options to fade-to-black or excise the scenes entirely don't appear so straightforward.

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Ah sex in BG3… look it in positive way!
It triggers night event xD in game without day/night cycle.
Anyway joke aside, it is rly waste of resources imo…
I would prefer good old fade to black if anything as kiss being sort of intro to it and then fade to black…
So I can headcanon it in my head, how the rest went.
Idk why I need visual presentation dictated by a dev, how charas are doing it…
I hate nowadays, nothing is left to abit of imagination.

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Originally Posted by Swagnar
I am amazed this is still a topic of argument when it's been stated from the beginning that BG3 was going to have sex scenes. Don't want a game with sex scenes? Go play an E rated game. I'll take the belligerent stance of "Screw it, Pornify this game as much as you can just so the people complaining about it leave." We have enough sanitized games out there that you don't need to look for more than a nanosecond to find 100s of RPGs that won't offend your puritan sensibilities.

And that's what I mean by "a schism in entertainment". Go play an E rated game? Do you know of any good RPGs that are E Rated? And again, lots of REALLY bad RPGs exist, sure, but not very many are actually good.

BG1 and 2 and IWD were good. Neverwinter Nights was good. KOTOR was AWESOME. Sex scenes in those? Nope. None. Some naughty characters like harlots, but not sex scenes sold a gazillion copies too, proving GOOD RPG does not NEED sex to sell.

Solasta is good and Pathfinder. 100s though, that are good games? Hardly. I've been starving for another good Turn Based RPG, especially 5e, and there's Solasta and BG3. That's it. Not 100s.

So yeah. It's frustrating when I finally get a 5e game that is turn based, and there's content that is, imo, totally unnecessary. Some don't think it's unnecessary, but whatever. The point is, I finally get a good RPG to rival KOTOR after a decade or whatever, and it has stuff that makes my stomach churn and I have to grit my teeth and bear it. It seriously hinders my love for the game.

Interestingly, in spite of my preference, I'm not saying, "Screw all your naughty fantasies. Larian should just totally cut all sex from the game. Who cares what you think or like?". I'm just asking for an option and hoping maybe they'll give it to us - an option to shut off sex - to skip the raunchy bits so I can ALSO enjoy the 3rd installment of the series to the fullest.

Also, do you even know what a Puritan is? They are REALLY strict Christians who would never be caught dead playing a video game of any kind, let alone BG3. I'm a FAR cry from a Puritan. I don't agree with having these explicit sex scenes, but I'm not condemning anyone. I'm not even demanding that they remove the content so you who enjoy it can still do so. I'm just asking for an option.

If they give it, great. If not, I at least tried.

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Cyberpunk, Mass Effect and Dragon Age have sex scenes, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 had a lot of adult content as has been stated. Arcanum there was at least 1 brothel and a goat. Fable games had sex with fade to black. Sex has been in games for a long time to varying degrees. There's also sex in plenty of TV shows, movies and books. Larian has decided to implement sex into their game. If you don't like it you can easily skip the scene. Somebody raised the Christian flag but then shouldn't they also be critiquing the violence and vulgarity as well. Swearing and killing folk aren't model behaviour either. If your going to state that sex should be censored due to potential children seeing, that's on the parents who don't even track their kids microtransaction spending, and again the violence and vulgarities. I don't recall full penetration showing but maybe they've changed that. Suppose I'll need to burn down the grove to check, kill them kids and families.

The game itself is rated mature, which contains sexual content.

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This thread is not about violence and such. It's about explicit sex. We've had other threads discussing violence including killing kids, which I also don't like.

The "Christian" flag was "raised" to let you know where I'm coming from. I love adventure. I love fantasy. But GOOD adventure and fantasy are getting harder and harder to find without sex and, since people keep bringing it up, without pushing the envelope constantly; making games more vulgar, more sick and twisted and so forth. Yes. Killing kids in a game is not fun either, and listening to duergar saying lewd things is also not fun.

But I very much enjoy the majority of the game, and that's why it frustrates me that there are these elements that ruin it which I can't turn off. If I have to live with them, I'll try.

Larian, please at least don't make it worse and especially unavoidable. Don't make it like one game I tried where you have to walk into a strip club and have ladies lap dancing. That game went RIGHT off. Done in a flash. Never played it again. What was the game about? Can't even remember, but it made its negative impact real fast.

Please don't do that to me, Larian. Please don't ruin this awesome RPG adventure.

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You do know that one of the romancing companions in BG2 can have a baby ?, and the stories around it... i doubt it was a big white bird that delivered it...

Then tell me this Larian studios have a mechanic called romancing, there is entire story lines around just this, and how to set up certain more deapher bonds, and im not talking hand holding, and while im taking this up to you, isnt to be rude but to actually try to make you understand, its not just a random scene, that can be "fade to black", there will be alot of text and pre recorded voice lines, that will lead up to this, and later be the result of, likely follow the story as it evolves, its not just to blank, a voice line can be very difrent in wich way its recorded...

And that brings us back to the whole romancing mechanic, there is several problems that come to my mind, for example, many of these companions, have their story evolve based on their trust, or aproval, and some of that aproval is also part in these "romancing"... Now you can ofcourse choose to keep these characters short, but that also means yo dont get closer to them ie you/we miss out on aproval rating... wich also might lead to later lines/voice lines that is direct spin off from said scenes...

Now if Larian could in asimple way fade to black, that be great, but it isnt that simple, even more so, when everything is voice recorded as well, and its also tied to how companions etc grow together... im just afraid that either the PG version just misses alot of the story since the aproval up is also part in how the story evolves, or larian has to record multiple sets of same lines, couse some might get upset at some voice lines is "sexual"...

now im trying to work with you, and hold a dialouge, i have several times explained and pointed to issues in coding, text/voicestrctures, that its not just to fade to black... as the entire story line, will create pre recorded follow up lines... to me it feels, you want the romance options, yet you dont want to experience it with voice or pictures... and i just see this... book where every other page has a *Beeep* in it...

I mean you could solo the game with no companions ?, or avoid any companions that can in som way lead to romanceing... problem solved ?

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GM4Him doesn't have a problem with sex, he just doesn't want to see it. I'm not unsympathetic to his overarching point, a lot of genre fiction used to be for everyone, "All-Ages", they would deal with mature themes but they weren't shown explicitly. Now a lot of those same stories are allowed to be more explicitly for adults, and feel it's necessary to earn their rating in order to be taken seriously, a lot of the time it feels shoehorned in, like they're checking it off a list (which they probably are). So we get stories made for adults or children instead of for both. I don't think it's as bad as all that, but its true that all the best sci-fi shows I've seen of the past decade probably wouldn't be available to me as a kid, and that's including Star Trek which is kind of sad.

Still the solution isn't less mature games, it's more games. I don't find the sex scenes in BG3 to be vulgar, and if they're serious about incorporating our character choices into them, it could be a way self-censoring the content you see.

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Originally Posted by Sozz
GM4Him doesn't have a problem with sex, he just doesn't want to see it. I'm not unsympathetic to his overarching point, a lot of genre fiction used to be for everyone, "All-Ages", they would deal with mature themes but they weren't shown explicitly. Now a lot of those same stories are allowed to be more explicitly for adults, and feel it's necessary to earn their rating in order to be taken seriously, a lot of the time it feels shoehorned in, like they're checking it off a list (which they probably are). So we get stories made for adults or children instead of for both. I don't think it's as bad as all that, but its true that all the best sci-fi shows I've seen of the past decade probably wouldn't be available to me as a kid, and that's including Star Trek which is kind of sad.

Still the solution isn't less mature games, it's more games. I don't find the sex scenes in BG3 to be vulgar, and if they're serious about incorporating our character choices into them, it could be a way self-censoring the content you see.
Could he just not select any of the very obvious dialogue choices with multiple "warnings" to trigger those? I don't remember any content being gated behind a sex scene in the early access too.

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There's a whole spectrum available between "No nod to even the existence of sex" and "Full on porn scenes" and I think it's unfair to equate not wanting the latter with wanting the former. I also take issue with the request for having an option to remove or tone down the sex and vulgarity being described as wanting a 'sanitized' product. Again, there's a difference between the two desires. I've not

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What is the mature and healthy way to approach it? You are not the first person who uses these words. What do they even mean?

Regarding this question, I think there's actually a good answer here. I think that answer lies in how the narrative itself deals with its contents. Does it actually call on the viewer/reader/consumer to think about what's going on? Does the game just HAVE sex, or does it deal with sex? Deal with it in the sense of characters reacting to it, having thoughts and feelings about it. Or is it just there in a way that could be theoretically excised without the point of the narrative changing? For example, I'll point you to the dragon age games, not for sex, but for racism. I'd say that those games deal with racism. Whereas so far, Baldur's Gate 3 mostly just HAS racism. The tieflings are a plot thread that could expand further into something that also DEALS WITH racism, but so far I don't think it quite gets there.

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Originally Posted by Niara

Pachanj asked about reasons why they should be there, well for me, several reasons:

- It's a chance to explore an element of my character and define who they are and what they're like in this aspect, and to me that's important.
- Similarly, it's a chance to see other characters at personal and intimate moments, and there's a strong element of immersion involved in having the sorts of conversations that only really happen in intimate pillow scenarios, actually in those scenarios, rather than after the fact with all our clothes back on, where it feels out of place or stilted.
- The immersion element extends to stepping into the place of my character and (ideally) having some influence over how they act and behave in that scenario - and mentally exploring what they experience during it; imagination always plays an important role here, of course, and does the majority of the heavy lifting, but if it's done well, I appreciate the scaffolding of a scene playing out in the process.
- Character direction in intimate sequences also opens up the opportunity for more character customisation in intimate ways; having a complete character and being able to describe many more elements of what that looks like; I personally view this as a positive, though for accessibility, of course, defining your character's intimate details and traits should be optional (in the way that some games do this, it's a check box in character creation that, when you click to enable it, then opens up the related menus and options, but has them not visually existing before you select to engage - I'd like that)
- Lastly, because I'm an adult woman and it's a bit of naughty fun, and I really feel like games can be better if they're more comfortable with some naughty fun adult activity as a natural part of the world and lives they build and portray.
All of that sounds fine to me. As you say there is some improvement to be made, and so far all I experience is one sex scene only, from an evil path which in general feels like it needs a lot of fleshing out.

What I am sceptical is if what you describe is something that Larian is even aiming at. My impression was the sex scene was closer to cards from Witcher1 or videos from Yakuza game - naughty rewards for the player. That’s the main reason for my contempt for it, and if it will stay that way, I would welcome an ability to just automatically skip those. Larian is more then welcome to surprise me with their 1.0 release, though.

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Originally Posted by GM4Him
And that's what I mean by "a schism in entertainment". Go play an E rated game? Do you know of any good RPGs that are E Rated? And again, lots of REALLY bad RPGs exist, sure, but not very many are actually good.

BG1 and 2 and IWD were good. Neverwinter Nights was good. KOTOR was AWESOME. Sex scenes in those? Nope. None. Some naughty characters like harlots, but not sex scenes sold a gazillion copies too, proving GOOD RPG does not NEED sex to sell.

Solasta is good and Pathfinder. 100s though, that are good games? Hardly. I've been starving for another good Turn Based RPG, especially 5e, and there's Solasta and BG3. That's it. Not 100s.

So yeah. It's frustrating when I finally get a 5e game that is turn based, and there's content that is, imo, totally unnecessary. Some don't think it's unnecessary, but whatever. The point is, I finally get a good RPG to rival KOTOR after a decade or whatever, and it has stuff that makes my stomach churn and I have to grit my teeth and bear it. It seriously hinders my love for the game.

Interestingly, in spite of my preference, I'm not saying, "Screw all your naughty fantasies. Larian should just totally cut all sex from the game. Who cares what you think or like?". I'm just asking for an option and hoping maybe they'll give it to us - an option to shut off sex - to skip the raunchy bits so I can ALSO enjoy the 3rd installment of the series to the fullest.

Also, do you even know what a Puritan is? They are REALLY strict Christians who would never be caught dead playing a video game of any kind, let alone BG3. I'm a FAR cry from a Puritan. I don't agree with having these explicit sex scenes, but I'm not condemning anyone. I'm not even demanding that they remove the content so you who enjoy it can still do so. I'm just asking for an option.

If they give it, great. If not, I at least tried.

Well I'd cite Earthbound, but that's technically the now defunct K-A rating, and really beside the point, but what has yet to be considered by the hordes of players demanding that BG3 not have sex scenes is A: They are optional content that you are not being forced to engage in(You can ignore the romance prompts, it isn't hard), and B: We already know that BG3 is being planned with streaming in mind, and they've talked about giving options for stream viewers to vote on dialogue choices, so tell me: What is Twitch's policy on porn games?

Edit: I'd like to add an adendum. I'm tired of overly sanitized media. I'm sick of everything having to be clean and safe and neutered and sexless because "Think of the Children" or peoples personal discomfort. There's an abundance of sexless media out there for players to consume who don't wish to engage with an actual part of life. Maybe let us degens have this one? Especially since it seems like Larian are the same sorts of degens who made it clear from the beginning of development that this was going to be in the game. If we can have gratuitous violence where you're greeted to mutilated corpses and exposed brains in the first 5 minutes of gameplay, we can certainly stand to have a tiddy and not have society collapse.

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Originally Posted by Swagnar
Edit: I'd like to add an adendum. I'm tired of overly sanitized media. I'm sick of everything having to be clean and safe and neutered and sexless because "Think of the Children" or peoples personal discomfort. There's an abundance of sexless media out there for players to consume who don't wish to engage with an actual part of life. Maybe let us degens have this one?
You say that, but I feel BG3 would be rather stand out if it embraced "rated T for teen" spirit of the IP. Games have been posturing and claiming how adult they are but adding violence, sex and prophanity for a while now.

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Originally Posted by Wormerine
You say that, but I feel BG3 would be rather stand out if it embraced "rated T for teen" spirit of the IP. Games have been posturing and claiming how adult they are but adding violence, sex and prophanity for a while now.
Gonna have to remove a lot of blood, gore, and viscera to even hope of getting that T rating, and I'm sure lots of dialogue will have to be rewritten too. Also I can't imagine the spirit of the IP is "T for Teen" when bare tits used to grace all of the manuals and promotional material up until around 3rd edition. A lot of Clyde Caldwell pieces come to mind.

Edit: Also we can never forget the Random Harlot Table of AD&D
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There lot of good points on this page. First of all, to re-iterate, this thread is about the explicit sex scenes. Not romance, not the fact that BG3 romances lead to sex, and not violence/swear words. The scenes themselves.

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Now a lot of those same stories are allowed to be more explicitly for adults, and feel it's necessary to earn their rating in order to be taken seriously, a lot of the time it feels shoehorned in, like they're checking it off a list (which they probably are). So we get stories made for adults or children instead of for both. I don't think it's as bad as all that, but its true that all the best sci-fi shows I've seen of the past decade probably wouldn't be available to me as a kid, and that's including Star Trek which is kind of sad.

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There's a whole spectrum available between "No nod to even the existence of sex" and "Full on porn scenes" and I think it's unfair to equate not wanting the latter with wanting the former. [...]

Originally Posted by Garold_izAravii
What is the mature and healthy way to approach it? You are not the first person who uses these words. What do they even mean?
I think that answer lies in how the narrative itself deals with its contents. Does it actually call on the viewer/reader/consumer to think about what's going on? Does the game just HAVE sex, or does it deal with sex? Deal with it in the sense of characters reacting to it, having thoughts and feelings about it. Or is it just there in a way that could be theoretically excised without the point of the narrative changing?

Originally Posted by Wormerine
My impression was [BG3] sex scene was closer to cards from Witcher1 or videos from Yakuza game - naughty rewards for the player. That’s the main reason for my contempt for it, and if it will stay that way, I would welcome an ability to just automatically skip those. Larian is more then welcome to surprise me with their 1.0 release, though.
All the above ties into the question: What purpose do the sex scenes in BG3 serve? Are they actually important to the story or character/relationship development? Or are they just an erotic reward for players, maybe that Larian has included to partially justify the rating of "Mature"? My current opinion is that the sex scenes are mainly the latter, and thus could be removed (or made optionally fade-to-black) without affecting much of import.

An additional consideration is whether these scenes affect further-down-the-line companion romances and/or game opportunities. If I reject Lae'zel and don't have sex with her, can my romance of her continue? Or must I accept and view the sex scene in order to get closer to her? If I reject Minthara, do I lose out on information and options regarding Moonrise Towers? (I'm curious about this. Does Minthara give you information the morning after regardless if you sleep with her?)

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Originally Posted by mrfuji3
There lot of good points on this page. First of all, to re-iterate, this thread is about the explicit sex scenes. Not romance, not the fact that BG3 romances lead to sex, and not violence/swear words. The scenes themselves.

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Now a lot of those same stories are allowed to be more explicitly for adults, and feel it's necessary to earn their rating in order to be taken seriously, a lot of the time it feels shoehorned in, like they're checking it off a list (which they probably are). So we get stories made for adults or children instead of for both. I don't think it's as bad as all that, but its true that all the best sci-fi shows I've seen of the past decade probably wouldn't be available to me as a kid, and that's including Star Trek which is kind of sad.

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There's a whole spectrum available between "No nod to even the existence of sex" and "Full on porn scenes" and I think it's unfair to equate not wanting the latter with wanting the former. [...]

Originally Posted by Garold_izAravii
What is the mature and healthy way to approach it? You are not the first person who uses these words. What do they even mean?
I think that answer lies in how the narrative itself deals with its contents. Does it actually call on the viewer/reader/consumer to think about what's going on? Does the game just HAVE sex, or does it deal with sex? Deal with it in the sense of characters reacting to it, having thoughts and feelings about it. Or is it just there in a way that could be theoretically excised without the point of the narrative changing?

Originally Posted by Wormerine
My impression was [BG3] sex scene was closer to cards from Witcher1 or videos from Yakuza game - naughty rewards for the player. That’s the main reason for my contempt for it, and if it will stay that way, I would welcome an ability to just automatically skip those. Larian is more then welcome to surprise me with their 1.0 release, though.
All the above ties into the question: What purpose do the sex scenes in BG3 serve? Are they actually important to the story or character/relationship development? Or are they just an erotic reward for players, maybe that Larian has included to partially justify the rating of "Mature"? My current opinion is that the sex scenes are mainly the latter, and thus could be removed (or made optionally fade-to-black) without affecting much of import.

An additional consideration is whether these scenes affect further-down-the-line companion romances and/or game opportunities. If I reject Lae'zel and don't have sex with her, can my romance of her continue? Or must I accept and view the sex scene in order to get closer to her? If I reject Minthara, do I lose out on information and options regarding Moonrise Towers? (I'm curious about this. Does Minthara give you information the morning after regardless if you sleep with her?)
Someone like Minthara might withhold information if you refuse to sleep with her and thereby insult her pride, forcing you to accept the consequences of your choices and seek another path/clue to continue your journey, like a role-playing game might have you do. Lae'zel might not ever be interested in romance at all and is only interested in carnal fulfillment. Shadowheart clearly isn't interested in rushing into things, and wants to make you work for it.

The Lae'zel gripe is funny to me, because I remember years ago being incensed at the fact that in Dragon Age Inquisition that I couldn't romance Vivienne. I was playing a Mage and thought she would be the perfect match for him, but she just laughs you off, no matter how much approval you gain with her. You will never get everything you want exactly the way you want it. If Lae'zel doesn't want to romance your ace character, that's part of her character. Romance is partly a matter of opportunities, or rather missed one's. If you turn someone's advances down, they're not obligated to wait on you like Hachiko. Lae'zel will hook up with someone else if you reject her. People move on and look elsewhere for romance if another option makes itself unavailable or unappealing.

You can absolutely use sex and sex scenes to meaningfully gleam into character psyche and motivation, and advance the story, and if players are titillated along the way, who cares? You can play an ace celibate paladin who will not be tempted and follow the pure path of no-fap.

Things can be both erotic and of narrative significance.

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Originally Posted by Swagnar
Someone like Minthara might withhold information if you refuse to sleep with her and thereby insult her pride, forcing you to accept the consequences of your choices and seek another path/clue to continue your journey, like a role-playing game might have you do. Lae'zel might not ever be interested in romance at all and is only interested in carnal fulfillment. Shadowheart clearly isn't interested in rushing into things, and wants to make you work for it.
Sure, but there's no indication that Minthara has any information for you, or that she'll only give it to you if you sleep with her. Like, a quest where you're supposed to get information from [Person] and one of your options is seducing them is fine. Great, even! But gating information behind sex scenes, information that the game doesn't tell you is even available and that you can't get otherwise? Less fine.

For the Lae'zel thing, I was using her as an example. The real issue is if all of the companions' romance can't be progressed without having explicit sex with them. Most games' romances end in sex, so you don't lose any relationship development by skipping that final sex scene. This is not so in BG3.

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You can absolutely use sex and sex scenes to meaningfully gleam into character psyche and motivation, and advance the story, and if players are titillated along the way, who cares? You can play an ace celibate paladin who will not be tempted and follow the pure path of no-fap.

Things can be both erotic and of narrative significance.
I agree. Developers can do those things. Is Larian doing those things in BG3 though, and doing them well?

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building a story, and its paths, build up and eventualy conclusions in what ever it may be, has evolved be it combat, good, evil, gore, with the tech, opens new posibilities... And when you say, is the X scene needed, that question can be aplied to everything, the conclusion to letting the goblins into a certain place and betray them could all been a fade to black, couse should we depict such treachery, and vile acts ?...

And the growing grafical enhancement we are seeing, is done on combat, gore blood, voice everything is grafical... now you me, and everyone on these forums all have things we react to difrently, and most of you wouldent bat a eye, when a head is chopped of, or feel uncomfterble at that evil choise... but this drama is been taken up constantly when nudity, sex is shown in any form, and i dont even call it sex, what ever we see in BG3 is part of romance paths...

And as i try to tell in my earlier threads, these romance paths have ALLWAYS been part of Larian games, and when they do these quest lines the scenes voices, etc has evolved grafically like everything else... and these Romance paths is voven into the game with "choices" and " aprovals " you cant just fade out one scene, couse the more you follow that romance path, the more it will be talked of, the more choises youll get, we are in ACT1 now, my question to you, do you think we will be able to keep romance companions for the entire story ?... so how do you handle the follow up talks, discusions of things we did, but was blanked out, yet its already recorded and is kept brining up... what im trying to tell you and others, its not just as simple to fade to black one scene, couse its a entire path of choise tree...

So of course, Larian could be less grafical, but that could be done to everything, they just improved grafics across the board, everything is more grafical... and as i said in a other thread... if you dont want to desend into Romance paths, solo play, pick companions that are likely not to be romansable, and its not like these things sneak up on you... its like shooting yourself with bow and arrow in the foot... so again, we all have tons of choises, dont like something, dont do it ?

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Without knowing what's to come, I'd like to believe that the choices made during these scenes are going to be meaningful to the story. If the camp scene is in fact the one and only time that relationships in this game are flagged romantic, then we can expect them to be pretty shallow. I don't think that's what we're getting. Espescially considering everything in the EA is leading up to a climax at Moonrise Towers, with everything leading up to it being there to inform our *Dramatic* *Choices*. Everything we've gotten either feels like a setup for what comes, or is a damp squib for what won't.

Minthara's scene in an interesting example because Drow society is one of the few times sexual politics are overt in the setting, It's probably been more than a year since I last saw it, but I think I remember her attitude to you taking into account your sex.

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