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I honestly think the stuff with the bear was inappropriate too, and should not be in the game. And yes, yes, I know Halsin is still a humanoid, but it still depicts bestiality.

Imagine there was a character who ages backwards (Benjamin Button), for some reason looks like a child, or perhaps was able to shapeshift, including into a child.

Yes, that person would have the mind of an adult, could consent and so forth, but an adult scene with that person still would be CP, just with extra steps.

It is not something I would boycott the game over, but I do think it is immoral and should not be depicted. I can understand the outrage, if children were in the room

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Is it an outrageous opinion to have that I think it was really fucking weird and want to joke about it on the forum but I don't think it should be removed?

I just wish they didn't show it in the showcase. That you had to look for it. Because now I have to explain to people to whom I'm recommending the game that this is not a bestiality simulator.


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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Is it an outrageous opinion to have that I think it was really fucking weird and want to joke about it on the forum but I don't think it should be removed?

I just wish they didn't show it in the showcase. That you had to look for it. Because now I have to explain to people to whom I'm recommending the game that this is not a bestiality simulator.
Yeah i made the unfortunate decision to use the last panel from hell to showcase the game to my gf as i have a spare key so this was her first impression, she said wtf i dont want to play a game like this, what is wrong with you, i was like uhm... wait till the gameplay, its not normally this bad, sorry larians sence of humour is fkin stupid, and yeah they ruined it for her and for me, i was fairly upset they went down this road as i wanted it to be a fun evening for my gf she had waited all day to watch it with me and she was left thinking the combat looks cool but shes not in to a sex and dating in dungeons simulation, i convinced her eventually that this stuff is optional i dunno why larian is showcaseing it like a main feature

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I actually don't care much for that scene, but I wasn't surprised. After them hinting at 'that' Halsin scene, I was sure, something like that could happen.


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Yes I personnally don't mind that there are all kind of sexual fantasies, and I do like that there are a lot of possibilities
Especially those days we are in some kind of puritan framework that censor everything, but the main showcase of the romance part was a homosexual sex with a giant bear... Well I find it weird. I don't judge people but I don't think such a glorious game like BG3 should put that in the very forefront.

I still love so much the work that Larian put in place in this game, but I don't understand why they took care to display it so much. Also I was finding Halsin extremely cool, but I cannot unsee that and this character feels super weird to me now...

I also had the problem with my wife, she saw some weird stuff and I was feeling like she will complain about this game, and wonder if I like this !

I had to make the screen so much small to hide what was happening (bear sex, the torture scene with the psycho people with the scalpels and others).

I totally understand that there is some dark stuff happening there, and once again, it's great that they could go deep in the good side / bad side, and I have no problem that it exists there, but I really don't think that it's the main feature of the game, neither that it should take so much importance in the very last panel from hell, that was expected to be some kind of celebration of many years of intense work and waiting.

Anyway, I'm still super excited for the release in 3 weeks and it's legendary work overall, thanks !

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My beef with the 'incident' is - either do sex or don't. Going the naughty, giggling teenager road is pathetic.

We didn't get much context but the scalpel psycho scene seemed overly violent and pointless.

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I think for me a lot of what Larian does is simply to be outrageous, and it often ends up feeling out of place/silly because there's not much else behind it. I could honestly see Sven saying to his team "okay, the internet has spoken, they want Halsin, so let's go all out, make a bear sex scene too! That'll be hilarious" and his devs just saying "...yes boss".

I still think CDPR is much better than Larian at doing adult content, simply because they don't play it off as a joke most of the time.

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Larian could be doing some big brain shockvertising. Games journalists having a field day with bear sex.


Also, Sven isn't the only chaotic member on stage. Crystal always looks like she's waiting for a prank to actualize and is suppressing her laughter. Anyone could be the agent of chaos.


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I really have no beef with the scene, and I totally get why it was in the showcase - as others have mentioned, gaming news have jumped on it. I think yesterday I saw three kotaku headlines about it.

As for trusting the rating and Swen's verbal note... I'm really jaded about that stuff. So often, that kind of stuff just means "warning: boobs". When they started the scene, and we see Halsin's ass, I assumed that's what Swen's note was about, "hey, two dudes are about to get naked and have sexytime," which gets content warnings for some reason, and my mind boggles why we hide normal human stuff from nearly-adult kids

I wasn't complaining about the scene or its inclusion at all, at least that wasn't my intention. I was just ruminating on the weird situation I was in when my assumption about the content warnings was completely wrong

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Originally Posted by Qoray
I honestly think the stuff with the bear was inappropriate too, and should not be in the game. And yes, yes, I know Halsin is still a humanoid, but it still depicts bestiality.

Okay, but could you articulate what is actually wrong about it? Lots of people will jump up quickly to say 'this is bestiality and that's wrong', but I'd like to ask: what are the things about bestiality for which people condemn it, and having defined those, are those aspects Actually present in this situation? They're not.

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Imagine there was a character who ages backwards [...], for some reason looks like a child, or perhaps was able to shapeshift, including into a child.
Yes, that person would have the mind of an adult, could consent and so forth, but an adult scene with that person still would be CP, just with extra steps.

No, it quite literally would not be. That's the point.

Your comments sound like the kinds of comments I've heard from people who would straight up tell me to my face that I should not have a sex life, or engage in intimate activity, because of my stature and appearance (I am a very small and quite petite woman) - people who would attempt to invalidate my right to be acknowledged as an adult and a sexual being, because of something that they are mapping onto me and calling a problem.... and THAT is far more of a violation than a druid and their partner engaging in some consensual kink-play that is functionally just magical cosplay.


I'm actually just unhappy that they're playing it off as a silly joke.


Also, is bear literally the only wildshape that Halsin can do? And does he literally lose control of it, have it come out when he doesn't want, and lose his reason when in it? For real? What kind of absolute shit druid is he? Is he actually just an acolyte first year fledgling druid pretending to be a proper one?

... no seriously, Halsin, bear's not my thing... but if you could manage a wolf maybe? I'm only a very small halfling after all....


OH, Oh, Oh! Is Halsin actually a werebear, and is just hiding the fact?

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All this stuff was optional, even the violent nurse incident. You needed to hit dice rolls 15-20 just to get those scenes, even then you could out right just fight them. Or don't at all because you could skip the place they were in. Discussions like this just leads to censorship, because of outrage. It's a 17+ game the the ESRB already rated. If you're that sensitive to this type of material, don't partake in it.

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Originally Posted by colinl8
I really have no beef with the scene...
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I wasn't complaining about the scene or its inclusion at all...
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I was just ruminating on the weird situation I was in...

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If you're that sensitive to this type of material, don't partake in it.

Dude?

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I just want to make Animal Planet jokes and about how awkward it is to recommend this game.


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Originally Posted by neprostoman
Originally Posted by EMTFields
If you're that sensitive to this type of material, don't partake in it.

Dude?

Dude what? It's literally a scene with a man that transforms into a bear, and then It cuts away to a squirrel. People our outraged over nothing. They act as if it's hardcore porn. Plus all these choices are optional. South Park has done worse than this.

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Originally Posted by Niara
Also, is bear literally the only wildshape that Halsin can do? And does he literally lose control of it, have it come out when he doesn't want, and lose his reason when in it? For real? What kind of absolute shit druid is he? Is he actually just an acolyte first year fledgling druid pretending to be a proper one?

... no seriously, Halsin, bear's not my thing... but if you could manage a wolf maybe? I'm only a very small halfling after all....


OH, Oh, Oh! Is Halsin actually a werebear, and is just hiding the fact?
If I remember correctly, Halsin is actually an arch druid. He get referenced as "the bear" in some places of the game. So I guess that is his signature wildshape.

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Originally Posted by EMTFields
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If you're that sensitive to this type of material, don't partake in it.

Dude?

Dude what? It's literally a scene with a man that transforms into a bear, and then It cuts away to a squirrel. People our outraged over nothing. They act as if it's hardcore porn. Plus all these choices are optional. South Park did worse than this.

Dude, you've made 5 posts in this thread all of which contribute nothing, and are just "who cares, don't like it ,don't do it". If YOU don't like the idea of this thread, feel free to not participate in it.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah
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Originally Posted by neprostoman
Originally Posted by EMTFields
If you're that sensitive to this type of material, don't partake in it.

Dude?

Dude what? It's literally a scene with a man that transforms into a bear, and then It cuts away to a squirrel. People our outraged over nothing. They act as if it's hardcore porn. Plus all these choices are optional. South Park did worse than this.

Dude, you've made 5 posts in this thread all of which contribute nothing, and are just "who cares, don't like it ,don't do it". If YOU don't like the idea of this thread, feel free to not participate in it.
And if you don't like what's in the game feel free to not play it.

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I'm actually just unhappy that they're playing it off as a silly joke.

This was my main problem with it too. I'm just going to hope/assume the other options are less jokey.

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OH, Oh, Oh! Is Halsin actually a werebear, and is just hiding the fact?

You are not the first to suggest this. Would be interesting, wouldn't it?

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Personally can't wait for the Goblin Sex Pest Mod.

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Alright we're losing control of the thread fast.

Can we bear the bare bear bear when he bears on another bare bear?


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