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#254169 08/07/04 05:37 PM
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When I first starting playing DD & then BD, on the very easy selection, it was so difficult to do anything that it always causes me to give up. Later on a patch is devised to correct this, but this is something that should be corrected before the game hits the shelf. Doesn't anyone play this game from beginning to end, noting all the bugs and errors before release? I know that could become potentially time-consuming, but wouldn't you rather that a near perfect game was released than a bug-riddled game? 5 patches later, lockpick & alchemy still doesn't work the way it should. Overall the complexity, graphics and sheer magnitude of DD & BD were excellent, & also very original. A 'hearty well-done' to the staff of Larian. Definitely keep the attack method of point and click, don't need to make things more complex than necessary. Spellforce did that and it sucks. Another thing I noticed was that the trading skill really doesnt do anything in BD. The costs of potions is so expensive when the game is first started that you cant even afford to buy any. I think that should be adjusted as well. I definitely look forward to the next game, when will that be released anyways? Will it be years from now perhaps? I hope not.

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Another thing I noticed was that the trading skill really doesnt do anything in BD

It does - you can haggle with the trader, meaning: you offer less money or item value.

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The costs of potions is so expensive when the game is first started that you cant even afford to buy any.


Hm, ever thought about pickpocketing? I don't know if this is your game style though.

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Hi Kiya! I guess you are the unofficial expert here eh? I don't know about the trading, in DD the prices would change significantly, thats what I was looking for in BD. Besides, usually I'm trading a bunch of items I pick up and trade them for something I need. But in the beginning of the game there are hardly anything to pick up to trade. As far as pickpocketing, who would I pickpocket? As the skill of pickpocketing allows you to pick the number of items equal to your skill, it was rather unfeasible since I had defensive and offensive skills to purchase to help me stay alive. Besides since there wasn't much gold or items to pick up at first, at 2000 to 5000 gold I couldnt afford it. Comments?

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Use items to buy potions, as well as gold. There should be plenty of loot that you can trade for potions. Gold is not the be-all and end-all of currency in this game. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

The other problem with bug testing is that someone could play from beginning to end and still miss every bug. There are so many paths and combinations that they can't quash all of the bugs until they have a wider testing audience, which is, unfortunately, the customers.

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No its not, blood heavy armor/weapons that are expensive are!



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that was ok to do after a while, but at the very beginning you didnt have much gold or items to work with. as far as bug testing, you mean to tell me that at a setting of very easy, and being unable to last more than 10 minutes when you first start playing is not noticeable?????? C'mon give me a break. what about lockpicking skill. 5 patches later and its still not fixed. and that bug has been around for months now. anyways my comments and opinions were for Larian staff to consider.

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As far as pickpocketing, who would I pickpocket? As the skill of pickpocketing allows you to pick the number of items equal to your skill, it was rather unfeasible since I had defensive and offensive skills to purchase to help me stay alive. Besides since there wasn't much gold or items to pick up at first, at 2000 to 5000 gold I couldnt afford it

Oh, I pickpocketed gold from the BF traders - and since a gamer here mentioned the wonderful trick how to steal unlimited stackable goods, as long as you keep one in the BF window => life is easy.
I steal arrows, gold, potions. And as I'm lvl 4 in pickpocketing, I keep the rest 5 items I can steal, until I fond a very useful stuff. How I did it?
I chose the survivor class, has pickpocket as a starting skill - took care to get the 1st BF key very quickly, so I could supply myself. Trick is => using CTRL and left click by going on a stackable item, typing in a number lower than the max.

In every act change you can steal from the BF vendors again.

Trading => this has changed between DD and BD. Though I never used this skill. 6%, 12%, 18%, 24%, 30%, 36%, 42%, 48%, 54%, 60% are the values you can haggle with, according to your skill level.

I don't know which version you play - but at 1.44/1.45 I had a lot to steal.

There are still bugs in the game, I won't talk them nice - just wanted to add what I knew about the points you made.

Lockpick => correct, this skill was and is broken.

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I guess you are the unofficial expert here eh?

Nope, just a gamer having played this game from the start (version 1.0 in German and being able to see how many bugs were solved from version to version).


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that was ok to do after a while, but at the very beginning you didnt have much gold or items to work with. as far as bug testing, you mean to tell me that at a setting of very easy, and being unable to last more than 10 minutes when you first start playing is not noticeable?????? C'mon give me a break. what about lockpicking skill. 5 patches later and its still not fixed. and that bug has been around for months now. anyways my comments and opinions were for Larian staff to consider.


**About your Beginning Problems**
"i think the more hard the game the more fun it is!"...i love dying several times and planning some tactics to beat my though opponents!!" It is boring always hit the pig kick the monkey loot the donkey easy games!!! killing a dragon at low level with thousends of healing potions which you can buy at start of the game..this is not gaming!!! it must be hard..it must be challenging...Yes boosting with potions and carrying healing potions is essential but acquiring them must be a little hard...just my opinion of course..

and about the lockpicking bug...yes i think that shouldve be solved at this point but im not going to question this subject anymore <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Hi again Kiya! Thanks for your tips concerning pickpocket. I started over and am at lvl 1 pickpocket, and boy have I made a killing. I just rob all but 1 gold piece, and accumulated about 600,000 gold so far. And when I get to BF, I simply buy all the charms available and then steal back the gold I spent minus 1 gold piece. I must have a total of 50 to 60 charms by now and the ones i dont want (except for the gold charms) I just use as trading currency. Since I've accumulated so much gold and charms, I didnt bother wasting skill points on trading.

To honourcobain: If you like impossible to get far type games, that's your choice. But since I'm spending $45, I would like to make reasonable progress in a game. I'm not saying I want too easy, that is boring, but impossible is unacceptable to me.


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