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#56167 23/04/03 05:47 AM
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Just bought Dungeon Siege after finishing DD. Gad, I don't think I can get into it.. the gameplay is so different.. I'm so used to the Diablo-type of gameplay... 3D is so different... anybody else transition from DD to Dungeon Siege? Is there something better out there to move onto? Now if Larian Studios had an expansion pack out already I wouldn't be spending money on other competitor games...

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just wait a bit longer, an announcement about a next project is coming....


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Tried Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind Dale, or Planescape: Torment? 2D isometric, just like DD.

*flatly* There's always NWN, of course. It's isometric 3D, partly like Dungeon Siege.

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Do a search online for 'Dungeon Siege Mods'. Personally, I found the game almost unplayable, until I downloaded some mods for it. I got the 'unlimited summons' mod which allowed my mage to play solo (I PASSIONATELY HATE having to control a party). With this mod my mage could summon as many creatures as she liked (a bit like DD's scorpions) and they won't vanish after a few minutes, but will stick around till they're killed.
There are a heap of mods out there, try a few of them out, they certainly improved gameplay for me. But Dungeon Siege will never be as good as <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> no matter how many mods they make for it.

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me too i hate partys.... i like to roleplay 1 guy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> But i dont mind controling parties like in games Final Fantasy and such, where you choose each ones attack but move togather..

DS isnt a good game, I tried forcing myself into playing it but its lame <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
Oh well

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I'm half-way through Dungeon Siege... just been hacking and slashing all the way... no storyline at all... not like DD. The music and quests and overall gameplay in DD also sets it apart from others... DS is so monotonous...

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I love having a party when it is done well. Unfortunatly since Ultima 7 part 1 and 2, that has rarely happened (Though BG2 caught glimpses of its brilliance). DS was a big dissapointment, great engine Gas Powered, but where is the game?.


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Well, if you like RPGs and also want 2D, I would recommend Baldur's Gate 2 highly.

I know what you mean about DS - what a boring game. A better choice for a 3D game would be NeverWinter Nights, although some people don't like the single player game too much. I enjoyed it personally, and played that before playing DD. 3D is nice in some respects such as being able to zoom and rotate - but to me it really comes down to how engrossing the story is and how fun the game is to play. So, again, I don't think you can go wrong with BG2.

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Im surprised that no one mentioned this...

Fallout, and Fallout 2. The best games ever made for the PC, and the most recent one is 5 years old. That is saying alot, and this comes from a man who has played a many CRPG.

The game is set in a post apocalyptic world, and is a bit slow on the start...But man, do they rock. Brilliant game. Very open ended.

I cannot say enough good things about it.


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Not wanting to sound like an Interplay/Black Isle groupie, you should seriously consider the aforementioned games: Baldur's Gate 2, Fallout 1/2, as well as Icewind Dale and Torment.

It really just depends on your mood and what you feel like playing the next couple weeks.

In a dark, somber mood, feel like everyone's out to get ya? Play Fallout - hell, if you've never played it, play it regardless of mood <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

In a contemplative, mystery-solving, traditional fantasy mood? Baldur's Gate 2's story will draw you in like few others - and has the content to keep you enthused for quite a while - easily twice the game length of Divine Divinity.

Feel like experimenting with being able to build an entire party to your standards but also want to KILL KILL KILL? Icewind Dale 1 and its two expansions will keep you happy. Story-wise, it is far superior to its sequel that came out last year, but being an Icewind game, it has much more 'hack-n-slash' than, say, BG2. Again, it's a traditional fantasy setting.

And, saving the best for last, Planescape: Torment, now discontinued, the best crpg ever made, period. It's story surpasses even BG2's, in my opinion, and that's saying a lot. Get it on ebay if you can't find a copy in the bargain bin for $10 at your local media store.

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I totally agree with you about Planescape. The only warning I have for the game is the amount of reading that is involved. If you are not able to read alot (and I mean alot) Planescape isnt the game for you. But if you are, few things can get better than it.


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Planescape Torment
...You might wish the game had a more frequent tendency to show-not-tell; however, its combination of great graphics and writing is generally very effective. As such, even though you'll be reading text half the time, you'll rarely feel as if the dialogue interferes with the game's surprisingly quick pacing.
-- Gamespot


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I played all of the Baldures Gate, Icewind Dale games, Neverwinter, Pool of Radience games and Elder Scrolls. I enjoyed them all because I am old pen and paper D&D freak. Every time I play a new game I think it is the best until I buy another. CRPG makers will be kept in business because of people like us that love to play RPGs. Even if I buy a game that I dont really like I play it any way. I HAVE TO PLAY.
Is there a support group for CRPG addicited people like me? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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Isn't this it? The support group that is?


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Before starting Divine divinity I played Gothic a few bugs but playing as a Mage necromancer once into the game awesome gameplay with some brilliant spells if you try it stick with it for a few hours before passing judgement far far better than your current game dungeon siege this is boooring.
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Gothic amazed me, i got it like 2 years late because it's one of those overlooked games, but i must say it absolutely beat NWN (single player) and i enjoyed it alot more than Morrowind (morrowind had terrible fighting and lacked -real- NPC interaction). Gothic2
should be out real soon (end of the month i believe)...well the english version..if you're german i guess you played it last year already.

Then there's another sleeper which i find kind of charming, Arx Fatalis. If you remotely liked the Thief series and RPGs you'll prolly enjoy it too. It's very linear though (and 3D) but have a unique playing style for an RPG.

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Dungeon Siege has the best engine ever, but unfortunately it's a very poor game.

Planescape: Torment is, as many others have already said, easily the best CRPG ever created.


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mongo, your right this is just one support group.


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I am thinking to play Newerwinter Nights next. Nice grapics and addon is coming.
Can do you guys rate it?


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Neverwinter Nights:

- Do notnotnot even try playing the official module. It stinks to the high heavens from straightforward fedex quests, lame henchmen, lack of challenge, horrible plot, lots of hack'n'slash, to melodramatic voiceacting. Aribeth's voice has problems. There is also some inaccuracies concerning FR canon, and misportrayal of one canon character, although I doubt you'd care.

- The interface is between "bloody godawful" and "mediocre, barely tolerable". Radial menu, my behind. Who came up with it?

- The inventory is equally horrible. Someone must've thought Diablo 2's inventory is cool, and slapped it on NWN. There's not even a button to make them orderly.

- Graphics...? If I'd wanted graphics, I'd be playing Morrowind. Even Dungeon Siege has better. Bioware has a long way to go in making 3D engine.

- The only redeeming quality of NWN is custom-made mods and contents. Ironically, most of the user-made mods and some of the custom contents (new models, for instance) are a lot better than the official one. It saddens me that the professional team is this... pathetic. And they're paid to do it, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

If you do pick up NWN, here're some brief reviews of some mods:

- Bone Kenning I: Art of Thanaturge - excellent scripting and a very creative way of henchman-making (collect different bones and different skulls that have different properties to create an undead "thrall"). Good story and concept that encourage neutral/evil alignment, as opposed to the generic, tiresome save-the-world heroism. Also comes with good dialogue and little grammatical mistakes. I was thoroughly awed with it. Medium combat. Short.

- The Witch's Wake: Field of Battle - it is Bioware-made, but a free download. Has many concepts that remind me of PS:T, good story, and a refreshing way of experience point rewarding, i.e., no exp from combat, but only from advancing the story or "roleplaying" your character. Low-power game, about level 1-3. Has original death/respawning. Minimal combat, some roleplaying, original. Short.

- Elegia Eternum - this mod is not for everyone, but it is very much my cup of tea. Has original music and voiceacting (!), and is story-driven to the point that it works more like an interactive novel than a roleplaying game. The story is good and original, however, although it's not something you would replay. It is also unforgettable. Minial combat, minimal roleplaying, original, dark theme. Short.

- An Ancient Heart - very typical adventure/hack'n'slash. The version I played (although there's a new one out, but I can't be bothered to try it) had grammar and spelling that reeked. The only thing it has going, I think, is the death/respawn system. When you die, you land in the Fugue Plains, which is full of other spirits waiting for their patron gods' heralds. (The mod's creator clearly knows about the FR setting beyond BG/NWN/IWD games, which is good.) There's a quest or two involving the afterlife. Maximum combat, so-so roleplaying. Cliched, unoriginal story/theme. No plot twist at all. Bleh. Long.

- Necromancer, Part 1 - Allegiance - Whee! This one's damn good, mechanically and otherwise. The scripting that allows you to raise the dead and obey basic commands shows hard work and finesse, although it's a bit buggy in that sometimes the dead just won't listen to you. You are very much encouraged to be evil, although there are some options for goodie-two-shoes. Equal parts combat and story/roleplaying. I haven't finished it yet, but have enjoyed it greatly so far. Even the battles are diverse in nature, and mages here are actually challenging.

- Foreboding in Sylvani - well, it has cutscenes (in NWN, this requires some advanced scripting, so it, yes, is special). It has some interesting areas with creative uses of placeables and lighting. The quests are so-so. The overall thing is so-so. Quite challenging combat, though. It also "fakes" swimming in certain areas, and has an underwater area.

Take it from me. Don't play the official module unless you're morbidly curious. Save yourself the pain and the despair as you trudge on, hoping that it'll get better at some point (it doesn't). Heck, even the voiceacting in Elegia Eternum is better than the one in the official module, IMO.

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