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The fit and healthy father can cross the bridge in 1 minute. The aged but healthy grandmother can cross the bridge in 2 minutes. The pregnant mother can cross the bridge in 5 minutes. The hobbling, arthritic grandfather can cross the bridge in 10 minutes.
simple. push grandma and grandpa into the chasm, grab the wife and cross to safety - where's the problem here? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
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You almost had it. You just forgot the trampoline! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Nice ones HandEFood. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
Here are some guesses:
Rickety bridge puzzle.
First guess. <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> Grandpa and Mum cross first. 10 minutes used up.
Now, Grandpa may be slow and arthritic, but he used to play cricket for Australia. So he winds up the old throwing arm and tosses the torch back across the chasm to Dad.
Dad and Grandma cross (2 minutes) - and they spend the spare five minutes laying anti-personnel mines on the bridge….
Correct? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> </span> Second guess(es) <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> Dad takes Mum across and comes back – 5+1 = 6 minutes used up. Then he takes Grandma across and comes back – 6+ 2 +1 = 9 minutes gone. Dad and Grandpa start back across the bridge.
8 minutes later, with 2 minutes still needed for Grandpa to finish crossing, the secret police arrive. Any of the following then happen:
1. Grandpa turns round and cuts them down with his Uzi (concealed in his crutches of course). 2. Dad and Grandpa cut the ropes holding the bridge and scramble up the boards Indiana Jones fashion. 3. The bridge is already fully loaded so the police will collapse it and die too if they attempt to cross it in pursuit. So they just rattle their swords in frustration. (Guns – who said anything about the secret police having guns!!)
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New improved Mark 2 bridge:
Guess 1: <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> This is just TOO easy. Dad and Grandma stroll across as far as the guard hut.
Grandma hitches up her skirt and starts adjusting her stockings. When the guard comes out and starts ogling Grandma, Dad brains him with one of Grandpa’s crutches. Then they all take their time to wander across… </span> Guess 2: <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> Bribe the guard (it’s a popular solution still often used in many places around the world today). Hey wait a minute, he's armed but so am I, so I try to bribe him and then shoot him.. </span>
Guess 3: <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>We just rely on jogging across for 3 minutes, knowing that the guard can’t do much in the minute that we still need to finish crossing. You see, we already spotted that he's only armed with a banjo - a vicious weapon for duelling at close quarters but useless at long range... </span>
Guess 4:
<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> Hey, I don’t need to flee the country – I already got out over the rickety bridge. Who cares how everybody else does it!
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Am I getting close... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />
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<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>3. The bridge is already fully loaded so the police will collapse it and die too if they attempt to cross it in pursuit. So they just rattle their swords in frustration. (Guns – who said anything about the secret police having guns!!)</span> I like that response! Alas, the guns were part of their secret. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Geez.... the swine..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />
Am I even getting close yet?
One more guess before I slit my wrists... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> It looks like if the torch has to be carried back and forth across the bridge each time then they will run out of time. Even with Dad doing the trips, they will run out of time - by the two minutes that he takes to cross back to the starting point twice.
So either the torch must be thrown back – and there’s nothing in the puzzle that specifically says what sort of torch it is, or how wide the chasm – OR they have to do as follows:
Dad takes Grandpa across and returns. 11 minutes gone.
Mum and Grandma cross with the torch. 11+5 = 16 minutes gone.
Dad only needs the remaining minute to get across, but now he doesn’t have the torch! But wait! He doesn’t actually need the torch now, because he’s already crossed the bridge twice so he knows where all the rotten planks are, and he counted his steps as he went. Rotten planks are the ONLY reason given for needing a torch.
So he crosses in the dark – to freedom. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" /> </span>
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This puzzle can be done simply by carrying the torch back and forth.
Hint: <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>The mother and grandfather are the problem because they take so long. Can you minimize the total time those two spend on the bridge?</span>
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Guess at hint<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> One of them (the one not carrying the torch) falls out half over? </span>
Übereil
Brain: an apparatus with which we think we think.
Ambrose Bierce
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Right, I'm the Dad. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Firstly I take Mum across. Then I come back and get Grandma and take her across and come back. Totally time 5+1+2+1=9 minutes.
I've got 8 minutes left to get myself and old Grandpa across. But it's a flaming torch, right? So I apply it to the old boy's backside. With fire streaming from the back of his trousers he makes it across in 1 minute flat with me in hot pursuit.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" /> No? You still won't accept it? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
Right, I'm "fit and healthy", so with the incentive of the Secret Police looming, I give Grandpa the torch to hold, pick him up and CARRY him across on my back. Giving another human a piggy-back is EASY, particularly a shrivelled old goat like him! We're home with time to spare. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
OK, I've been kidding around here (even though I like ALL my solutions). Here's my final answer:
<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> I'd take Grandma across first and go back (3 minutes used) I'd give the torch to Mum and Grandpa. They'd cross together (13minutes gone now) Then Grandma brings the torch back to me (15 minutes gone) The two of us cross to safety (in exactly 17 minutes) And THEN Grandpa opens up with his Uzi <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />
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Unfortunately, I'm to exhausted from all this exercise to even try crossing the second bridge today... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sleepey.gif" alt="" />
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> Kris! I was too exausted even before the first bridge!
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Brain: an apparatus with which we think we think.
Ambrose Bierce
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Congratulations, Kris! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Yeah, I forgot to mention gramp's was a WWII veteran. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
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I figured out the first one, yippieh!
But the second <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Can the guard see the whole bridge? And there's no place to hide? Can I swim under the bridge?
Oh, wait... I have an idea.
<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>I wait until the guard goes back into the hut. Then I walk for three minutes, well 2:59. Then I turn around and when the guard comes checking I act as if I come from the far side. Would that fool him? </span>
Der Mensch ist das edelste Lebewesen. - Das erweist sich schon daraus, dass ihm noch kein anderes widersprochen hat.
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I grab a stick. When he goes in I walk out and stand by the door. And the second I see his ugly face, I hit him. Hard. If he dfoesn't pass out I hit him again. And again. And etc.
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Brain: an apparatus with which we think we think.
Ambrose Bierce
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I figured out the first one, yippieh!
But the second <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Can the guard see the whole bridge? And there's no place to hide? Can I swim under the bridge?
Oh, wait... I have an idea.
<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>I wait until the guard goes back into the hut. Then I walk for three minutes, well 2:59. Then I turn around and when the guard comes checking I act as if I come from the far side. Would that fool him? </span> That's the one! Very good! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Someone's selling a coin on e-bay (hyperthetically). The coin markings state that it was produced in 215 BC. The minimum asking price is US$10,000. Is it a good deal and why?
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I think I'll pass on that bargain thanks...
<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> as BC clearly stands for Being Conned </span>
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I think I'll pass on that bargain thanks...
<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> as BC clearly stands for Being Conned </span> That's one way of putting it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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What do the numbers 2, 3, 10, 12, 13, 20, and 27 have in common?
Joke answer: <span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>The all come with rice!</span> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
There is a real answer, though... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>The letter "T"? </span>
Der Mensch ist das edelste Lebewesen. - Das erweist sich schon daraus, dass ihm noch kein anderes widersprochen hat.
(G.C. Lichtenberg)
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<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>The letter "T"?</span> Yup! Good one! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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