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Kyra_Ny #284447 04/01/05 09:19 PM
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Hi Kyra

Sometimes some american people are not really nice with us.
They say that french people are dirty, they don't wash them everyday, they don't change their underwears and they smell. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" />

Maybe it's right maybe it's wrong ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

But the worse it is when they refused to buy french champagne because they did not agree with the politic of the President Chirac.

English people were not really nice with us too some time ago when France refused to get in the last Irak war.

And the autralian people were awful with us about the nuclear tests in the indian ocean a few years ago.

Anyway i still like a lot : Lews, Kyra, Flixerflax, Cleglaw, etc. from the USA.
I still like a lot Spick and Womble from England.
And i still like a lot MeaCulpa and HandEFood from Australia.

Barta

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Dear Kyra,
Let me tell you one thing. I've met a few American people in my past and these are one of my favourite memories. You are not picked on aswell as your country. Everyone should be proud of were you came from and in every country there are bad and ignorant people. I did not really read anything like you said about America, but like Luc said, I too have been busy for a few days. But you should not let these things hurt you, don't let it chase you away from this forum, please, it's not worth it. You are a nice person and that is what counts on this forum. We have bad people too in Belgium like Dutroux and indeed our prime minister, Guy Verhofstadt, but are we Belgians hurt by things like that? Maybe we have a thicker skin, maybe we can laugh more about our people (we have a strange kind of humour <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> ) But I'm sure that anyone who attacked America in words on this forum did not mean to be aggressive and will apologise. But you should concentrate on your new friends you've met on this forum, because we always will be there for you!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />



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- on a side note.
I don't rely on just media. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
And I have seen Americans like you. My freinds overthere have webcams. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
One visited me here.

Setharmon


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> I hope you don't mean those naughty kind! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />


Thank you all for being so kind and I mean that with my whole heart. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I never wanted to leave, I'm just used to running from pain.

To: Morbo, Barta, Luc, Cleg, Seth, and Womble...Hugs to you all.

Thank you


Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Ofcourse the naughty kind.
You mean there are others????? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
What will they think of next. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

I even got me a season ticket.
It can get so expensive you know...

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/freak.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />


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Barta #284450 04/01/05 09:26 PM
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@ Barta =>

I know what you are saying and I've almost slapped people for talking such nonsense! So since I can't slap them I chew them out for being stupid.
Nothing seems to tick people off more than when you insult their intelligence. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> And that is what I did to them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

You never see us Barta, but there are Americans who love the French.

Oh, I'd drink French Champaign, but I don't drink.
Do you have any sparkling non alcoholic cider? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I love america and american

daily show crew
conan
letterman
al franken
clinton
most celebs
the hartland people and theire generosity (belgium tv had a small feature wher a reporter travelled from east to west and the people were all nice to em)
the city areas (Would love to live in NY (got almost the lingo down (just use [nocando] beween 2 werds)))

I mostly hat big companies (some of who are located in USA)
Fox news channel for comparing the dutch people to godless nazi's ( linky )

Microsoft: yes theire product are good marketing and copition behavior is something else

EA games: Slave handelers that push games before they are ready

Walmarkt: for banning America the book (daily show book)
I have read this book and its informative, funny, and good WHY THE HELL DID THEY BAN IT (ow yeah the 11 naked men in the middle) + it shows the fondations on on what america was build on A set of ideals no one could argue against.

i dont know who was this but Nipple gate is NOT a big deal

ow and layers hate em


Not in the mood for cheese?
That excuse has more holes than a slice this fine Gorgombert!
Kyra_Ny #284452 04/01/05 09:29 PM
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@ galadriel =>

Thank you and as always you have that way that always brings a smile to my heart. Oh please, don't ever lose that wonderful loving spirit.


@ Morbo =>

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> Funny as always! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />


Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Kyra, please don`t leave!!
I don`t agree with Bush and his way of "leading America", but I`ve also got some friends in America you know. And from this I can tell you, the Americans I knwo are really lovely, warm-hearted people and I know you`re on of them like many other Americans, too.
Look, I`m German and there are many bad things in Germanys past, like Hitler and all the Nazi stuff. But I don`t caro about it at all, because its far in the past and I`m not guilty for the things that have happened there.
You should look at it the same way. A lot of people all around the world don`t agree with Bush, but it isn`t YOUR fault!!!
You aren`t responsible for what`s been going on in Iraq or anything else Bush did!!
You are just a wondeful, warm-hearted person living in the wonderful State of California. You should be proud of it!!!
I have never been to America myself, but when I`m a bit older than I am at the moment I know I will come to you!! I want to see my friends living near Boston and I want to get to know their friends and all the other people living in America!!!
America isn`t Bush or his government!! America is the people living there!!

Please Kyra, think about what I said, think about what all the others said. We all want you to stay.
I`m only 14, I don`t know much about the world. But I know, that you`re a really nice person and you shouldn`t be sad for something you aren`t responsible for.

Bye, Hap (liking Kyra really a lot and hoping she stays) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


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And Kyra

One of those freinds of mine lives in Ca.
And I know(n) ppl in northern and suthern states.
Don't forget that Americans don't always get along among eachother too.
Northern Americans told me they're nicer than sutheners and other way around. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
Just like in Belgium, Canada, Italy, ....
No matter where you live, it's who you are that matters.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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@ Happyflower =>

Thank you soooooo much for your warmth.

I love you all too much to leave.
Yes, I am staying.

Sadly though, I have to go for the day.
Just the day. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'll be back tomorrow. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I'm sorry for crying wolf.
I'm so used to running from hurt.

Thank you all for caring it means the world to me.


Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Kyra_Ny #284456 04/01/05 09:43 PM
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I think that there are really bad things going on in America. Which makes me sad as I used to love the country. But - as some others may have stated already (sorry, I don't have the time to read all posts) - this doesn't mean that every American is bad.

Well, I guess I understand you. I am German. And there are a lot of bad feelings against Germans. Well, some of the cliches are true, of course. But I am not like that and none of my friends or family are or have ever been. (I mean, we are neither Nazis nor do we spend our holidays hanging around just drinking and insulting our hosts...) Nevertheless those prejudices hurt me in a way.

But, please, stay. Whoever said anything bad about America probably did not mean you as a person. (And if he did it's him/her who should go.)


Der Mensch ist das edelste Lebewesen. - Das erweist sich schon daraus, dass ihm noch kein anderes widersprochen hat. (G.C. Lichtenberg)
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Hi Kyra!

I just found this thread and I believe I have to say something too.

Please always remind yourself that we are using only written language here. It is unlikely that one always understands posts in the way they were meant by thse who wrote them. If i feel offended I always try to figure out if the person really wanted to hurt me or my country.

On the other hand I can understand you perfectely. A few years ago I stayed in England for a month with a host family in Brighton and they asked me the following:

"Don´t you feel ashamed beeinig an Austrian because Hitler was Austrian?" This did make me angry in fact. However I stll write them letters from time to time and will visit them next time i come to England.

Anger is understandable but more necessary is forgiving.

Yours Bernhard


bernhard live and let die!
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ooooo I also love Lewis Black and his zero tolerance to idiots.


Stewart/black for prez 08

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We wouldn't be so depended on foreign oil if we could just harness the energy of the Idiot -Lewis Black-


Hate FCC (seriously what's the deal with private ryan)

to recap: love Lewis Black hate Fcc


Not in the mood for cheese?
That excuse has more holes than a slice this fine Gorgombert!
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What would be good. It would be that we stop to talk about President Bush, Adolf Hitler, Napoleon the 1st, Staline, Henry the 8th and Alexander the Great during a few months in the forum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" />

Barta

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ooooo I also love Lewis Black and his zero tolerance to idiots.


You are sooooo right Morbs. Lewis Black roooolz!

He's almost as good as George Carlin. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
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What would be good. It would be that we stop to talk about President Bush, Adolf Hitler, Napoleon the 1st, Staline, Henry the 8th and Alexander the Great during a few months in the forum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" />

Barta


but... but... but...
Then who do we talk about? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
Joan of Arc?
Barta the first? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
or Seth the 0? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />



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hmmm, let me think...

We could talk about how we want to play Divinity2... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />


bernhard live and let die!
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but... but... but...
Then who do we talk about? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
Joan of Arc?

Oh no !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasEek.gif" alt="" />
She was burnt by the English people.
It would be the end of friendship between the french and the english members of the forum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

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Yep... in those days you got burned.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
See ya all... American, Canadian, English, Estonian, Brazilian, Malaysian, South-African, German, French, Dutch, Belgian, ...

We haven't burned anyone.

yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />



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Kyra! Kyra! kyra! I have to say something here.........Non-Alcaholic Cider!!! Are you completely insane?, Gather your senses young lady. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by spick; 04/01/05 11:25 PM.

Drink Up Ye Cider.
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Reminds me of a Genesis song ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> (Doesn't appear on any album, only on a single ("Land of Confusion") and on the second archive box.) It's called "feeding the ire" and goes like this . "you are feeding the fire you'll be roasted on" or something like that.

Anyway, I see that american compnies seem to act in a certain way - but the american citizens are those who are hit by the hatred, not the ompanies, which rather tend to block themselves from that.

As a result we see american citizens in the unpleasant state of being addressed by those who are unsatified (to say it rather mildly) with the government or with compabnies, and that, although these cizizans cannot do anything against it - or so it seems to me.

If the government and the companies wouldn't be so blind and blocked, they could change their behaviour easily for a better world. But in fact they - government and companies - act towards non-u.s. citizens like they have a heart of stone.

It's rather a problem of society, imho.

That's my very personal impression, highly subjective, and therefore possibly wrong. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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When ppl here talk about America they don't mean you or your fellow Americans. They mean America as nation. And your leaders.


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If I didn't, then let me clarify it now. I hate the government, not the people.


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And you really do have to realise that a lot of the world thinks anti USA these days.
But what you have to realise even more is that that doesn't mean anti Kyra.
Or anti USA citizens.

USA is a country. You are a person. Don't get those two mixed up.


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Sadly, you never see us; because, the media never shows us to you.





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