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If the government and the companies wouldn't be so blind and blocked, they could change their behaviour easily for a better world. But in fact they - government and companies - act towards non-u.s. citizens like they have a heart of stone.


They aren't blind Alrik.
They just don't care.
Rather one $ in the pocket than one life saved.

They see the same things as we do daily. They just look upon it differently. What we see as people being in pain and mysery, they see as oportunity.
They see desperate people who will do anything for some food or some money. And they will take adventage of that.
(There are already reports of ppl selling children in order to buy food for the rest of the family in South-East Asia.)
They see extremely cheap labor forces.

They just don't care...




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Since the danger of looseing Kyra seems to be over, tellinjg my oppinnion and try to get her back seems rather pointless, but anyway...

Where were I? It's getting late... I don't like America. I don't like your society, your system. You're the only great power in the world (and the only country exept Sweden I know the name of the president in...), and your goverment isn't doing much right. But all the americans I've spoken to, I've liked. I think this has a lot to do tith the picture preseented py the media here in Sweden. You only see the a-holes, never the good pepole. It's pretty easy for me to sit over here in Sweden and say "America sucks", and it probably do, but I'm not shure it's really true in all aspects, but yet I say it. Because it's probably true, and I think it makes my life easier to know I don't live in the whorst country in the world. (This doesn't mean USA is the whorst country in the world!)

ワbereil

PS in the beginning I was about to apologize, but I am glad it happened in a thread I havn't read (it's not my fault). In case I ever say anything that offends anyone, that is never really my meaning. I'm pretty unexperienced (17 years old), so I probably do a lot of mistakes out of ignorance which I can't really do anything about. But if I ever say anything that hurts anybody, have this in mind (and prehaps point it out for me (IN A NICE WAY!!!) so I don't do it again) DS


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@ Sveltje =>

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> You know, I've only seen the German people as warm, caring, and loving people. Who have a strong moral sense of what is right and wrong. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

When I look at a country, I look at the people.
I've met lots of people from other countries, being a military spouse.
They have all been beautiful to me.

True every country has what I call it's arm pits, mine especially, but I know inside that, that is not what the people as a whole are like.


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Kyra! Kyra! kyra! I have to say something here.........Non-Alcaholic Cider!!! Are you completely insane?, Gather your senses young lady. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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Yes, spick Non-Alcoholic Cider.

I知 an alcoholic and I知 going on six years sober now.
My drink of choice was Bacardi 151 and water.
I'd go through about a pint a day.
Maybe it was due to my violent past in my childhood.
I知 glad I quit.


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Ya know, I've been here for almost 2 years. I'm from America. I've seen tons of insults to America. Once, I even heard someone blame America for there not being a patch for Divine Divinity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I just ignore it, and concentrate on all the nice people. Mostly, its a good forum, kind. But lots of people get sort of angry around Christmas time, all the conflicts between Athiests, Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc ( sorry if I missed you ).

People just act stupid and forget what they are saying.

Please stay.



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I知 sorry, but I am tired of all of the anti-American sentiment that is going on here on this forum.

I could easily find bad things to say about any country on our earth, but I don稚; because, I知 just not like that.

People blaming America for everything, what痴 the next thing?
America is responsible for the common cold.
Good grief.

Oh well, I know my words fall upon deaf ears here.

Good-bye

And to those who had real hearts I値l miss you.

Take Care


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Maybe you right Kyra_ny, maybe it's because you are living in the country, but i believe all that opinion(bad the most part of time) about your country is because the USA scroll up with the other countries, i for example, i hate when i read at newspaper a lot times per year many notices of interferences of USA into the other countries about many things: politic, religion, comerce and etc...
I believe that's a good reason to talk bad about USA, what USA has to do with Sadan Hussein was doing in his country? And all notices talking that bush invaded the country cause of a big lie about chemical weapons, and the politic victory? At my eyes and of many people that victory wasn't fair and we have many reasons to believe that.

It's hard to talk about other country when you're not living there, but with the globalization is more easy to have an opinion about. Please don't be angry with what i said but is how i understood the facts what happened there.


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I believe that's a good reason to talk bad about USA

Do you realise that by "USA" you might mean "certain people of power within USA"?

I haven't met many Americans. On backpacker I met was a complete bull-[nocando] artist. On the other hand, my aunt's family is American and they're great (and not just because they are family). I've made American friends on this and other forums and find little difference between them and local friends. I've also met a lot of not-so-nice Americans on the 'Net and I ignore them like I would someone here.

America is a different culture. It is so frequently exposed that we all feel informed enough to make opinions. Of course, we only see the exciting bits...

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Hey, most people on the forums for a while have been seeing just a few of us Americans here.

Mslynx, Fliverflax, Cleglaw, Myself. Sorry if I missed any.

But really, when you think about it, Mslynx has been really busy latly ( she said HI ) FLiverflax hasn't been seen around recently, and people still think of me as a jackass. Leaving just Cleglaw around here to be the good american. We recently have been real lucky with some newer members from america, like you kyra, being really cool. But alot of the old people here still remember what is thought of as the typical american... johnson. Now lets skip over that.

Then with all this tsunami stuff, countries calling each other stingy and all, it makes Americans look bad. Have you seen how a huge amount of american sites has a link to the red cross on its front page? Its amazing, yet people call us stingy? So then we American's get upset, in chatrooms, in online forums, in real life. So people start arguing. People think American's are bad then.

People always think of how a country is just because of its leader. Look in the past. If at my school I said, hey remember ( lets just say there was a war leader who conquered the world called Paul [ I glanced at a book illustrated by Paul Kidby] ) Paul? { Say he's from Hero ( a european counrtry, in this make believe world ) } Someone would say, man, those Heroens, they're always so blood thirsty and trying to take over the world.

ITS BLOODY ANNOYING BEING THOUGHT OF AS A IDIOT BECAUSE OF OUR PRESIDENT.

There, I said it. * whistles * I feel better already.

So be nice to us everyone, I've seen this exact same thing happening on other forums, but there its the Europeans being the minority. And the Americans fighting between themselves.



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Hi Kyra <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I think i`m late, but please stay here.

Ok, the most things are said before, and my english is not good enough to explain my mind in a way thats make me sure not to hurt or blame someone.

Yes, i don`t like Bush and his Government. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />
But this has nothing to do with you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Some people are jerks some are not it"s been this way for quite some time enven in the animal kingdom

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Marge: Gosh, I thought he'd be happier in his true habitat.
Warden: Oh, I think he is.
Marge: Then why is he attacking all those other elephants?
Warden: Well, animals are not like people, Mrs. Simpson. Some of them
act badly because they've had a hard life, or have been
mistreated...but, like people, some of them are just jerks.
Stop that, Mr. Simpson.
[Homer butts the warden repeatedly]


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That excuse has more holes than a slice this fine Gorgombert!
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Yeah, Seth, you are right.



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Thank you all.

A bit of Knowledge I値l pass on to you about the Red Cross.

The Red Cross is 90% funded by the contributions made to it by giving individuals.
The reason why the Red Cross advertises itself so much after disasters is so it will have hopefully sufficient funds to supply relief to those in need the next disaster that may pop up.
Now that may seem very bad to you making money off of other peoples hurt and sorry, but let痴 step back for a moment.
The Red Cross is NOT a for profit organization like businesses are.
Its sole purpose is to provide AID to those in need.
ALSO, keep in mind, how many people dig into their pocket books, purses, hand bags, and wallets when there is no need or post disaster. Basically, only 2% to 3% of our earth donates funds to help others in need when there is no crisis.
Because of this that has forced the Red Cross to advertise for Donations to prepare for the next crisis.
Sadly it is really we as Earthlings that causes the Red Cross and many, many other AID giving organizations to follow this practice.

I知 just glad all of those AID giving organizations exist.


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It's really hard not to have any prejudices. At all. Take this in contrast to propaganda (hope that's not Swenglish... No it wasn't) who I know cant give you oppinnions, it can only strenghten or weaken your oppinnions.

Now, we know that the picture of America given to us by the media isn't a very nice picture. And I guess that somewhere deep inside you have some kind of idea of what an American is like, and I know I have an idea of what America in general is like. And the picture given to me by the media (who here serves as propaganda) only strenghten this picture. So I don't like America. And before I came here, the only Americans I've spoken to is a person from Warrensburg university (or prehaps it was high school... I think it was...) which whom I was supposed to exchange e-mails. I think we excheanged four or five letter, the it was completelly blank... So, before I came here, I had had allmost none contact with ordinary pepole. I had only my prejudices strenghtened by the medias. I'm proud I didn't have any prejudices about the pepole here when I found out they where americans though (more that they're probably nice...), so really, it's only the country it self I don't like and have a certain idea of. Maybe I'll be different if I ever meet an american. Now I don't get to see you, I can only read what you've written. As said, it's hard not to have any prejudices. I try not to, I try to keep myself open, if I see pepole from other cultures I try to tell myself: I don't know them so I can't expect anything from them. They're probably allright. But I don't really know... If I see someone from another culture and I think badly thoughts of him I hate myself, because I don't whant to have any prejudices, other than nice ones. It feels really stupid to unlike someone you don't know only because of what you think of him, but somethimes that's what I do. And I have no idea of whet to do about it...

ワbereil

PS didn't know you used to be an alcoholic Kyra, but I'm glad to hear you're dealing with it, AND doing allright <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> DS


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PS didn't know you used to be an alcoholic Kyra, but I'm glad to hear you're dealing with it, AND doing allright <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> DS

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Thank you Ube, but once an alcoholic always an alcoholic.
All it takes is just one drink and you're back into that disastrous cycle all over again.
Now, I'm not saying drinking is bad and I have no prejudices against anyone who drinks.
In fact I get my most entertainment out of watching people who are totally soused. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

But for me I know dinking is bad.
I'm like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when I used to drink.
I get very, very angry.
In fact I still do get angry, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" /> but not to the degree when I drank. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Again, thank you Ube


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@ Stone =>

Your English is perfect in my book.
I understand where you are comming from and what you are saying each and every time and that's all that matters.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />

I have to say your Duck Hunter picture gave me a good laugh.
If ducks could really do that I know a lot of men would be dead by duck. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />


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[color:"orange"] Your English is perfect in my book.
I understand where you are comming from and what you are saying each and every time and that's all that matters.
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Thank you for this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
But i know something about what people can make with words.
And not all is good.
So i think, if i can`t say it like i can say it in german.
So i`m better quite. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

But i`m learning <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Yes, spick Non-Alcoholic Cider.

I知 an alcoholic and I知 going on six years sober now.
My drink of choice was Bacardi 151 and water.
I'd go through about a pint a day.
Maybe it was due to my violent past in my childhood.
I知 glad I quit.
Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Good for you girl! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
I am very proud of you. In fact I am very proud for every alcoholic in this world that can quit and be sober. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />


You can have my absence of faith
you can have my everything...

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"Donエt you feel ashamed beeinig an Austrian because Hitler was Austrian?" This did make me angry in fact. However I stll write them letters from time to time and will visit them next time i come to England.


Dear Bernhard,
People who says things like that are ingnorant and stupid. Hitler happens to be an Austrian, so what? You can't help it, he could be born in Belgium or in France or even in America or England! That does not make a whole nation bad. We have a man in politics, his name is Filip Dewinter. In Austria, you had Jrg Haider, everywere there are people who have the brain the size of a guinea pig. Ignore those people, you would be much happier. No one deserves to be punished for the actions of another person. You are only responsable for what you did. If you hurt someone, your neighbour is not the one who should be punished right?
I have a few motto's: 1st Whatever makes you happy: Do what you wanna do, be gay or straight, be weird or dumb but be yourself, never go into extremes
2nd Stupid is who stupid does: You and you alone are responsable for what you did, never blame someone else.
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You're so welcome, I just do what I was born for: Born to make you happy!!
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Yes, spick Non-Alcoholic Cider.

I知 an alcoholic and I知 going on six years sober now.
My drink of choice was Bacardi 151 and water.
I'd go through about a pint a day.
Maybe it was due to my violent past in my childhood.
I知 glad I quit.
Kyra_Ny

@ Kyra
Good for you girl!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> My dad was an alcoholic too and so I speak from my own experience (he got really aggressive and violent when he was drunk) when I say : Alcohol is very bad in bad situations. If you are sad, mad or alone. Even @ parties, some people can't control their drinking habits, but that does not make them bad persons. I saw the movie "When a man loves a woman" and I believe in love and that it can concour all. When you feel sad, just get your a$$ on that computer and talk to your friends!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />



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