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2D or 3D DD2? #58521
01/05/03 11:21 AM
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I just want to know if people wanted to get DD2 in 3D or 2D as DD1 was. Me myself like 2D more.



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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58522
01/05/03 11:38 AM
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I'm the first for 3D


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58523
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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58524
02/05/03 07:31 AM
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Being able to zoom in, rotate the camera around to see the world differently, and would definately be cool -- but good game play is my priority.
Note that I am not talking about making DD2 a first-person view, but rather make it like Darkstone, Dungeon Seige, Neverwinter -- like DD is now, but more realism.

Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58525
02/05/03 07:37 AM
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I think a a cool feature (that could be toggled off) would be a "Crit-Cam".

Every once in awhile your weapon or spell attack would randomly deal extra damage, and the camera view would snap into super ZOOM to show the death animation. It might be an Instant Replay feature, where you get to watch but the game world doesnt get to affect (kill you) in the mean time, then play returns to normal.

When you kill a mini-boss in a 3D game, there could be a Boss-Cam where your last couple seconds of heroic fighting are replayed in Zoom from a different angle.

Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58526
02/05/03 08:41 AM
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I vote for 3d.
More details, better animations, better magic effects.


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58527
02/05/03 10:13 AM
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all the effests in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> are in 3D


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58528
02/05/03 01:54 PM
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3D is the better medium if it is done right, for a 2D game DD is extremely well done, I would also like to add that the "crit-cam" idea would be totally awsome


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58529
04/05/03 08:28 AM
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So long as the crit-cam doesn't get in the way of combat. (ie. You kill the boss first and the game goes into crit-cam mode while there's still 20 minions attacking you.)

Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58530
05/05/03 05:47 AM
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Obviously, crit-cam should be something like replay and the game should be auto-paused while in crit-cam.

Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58531
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Excuse me, but may I ask what is crit-cam ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58532
05/05/03 08:43 AM
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read here for info about crit cam


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58533
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lol, I didn't know whats cam.
It shouldn't be autopaused, at least if it's duration if not much longer than ordinary death animation.


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58534
05/05/03 10:10 AM
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or with an option to turn it on and off


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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58535
08/05/03 10:04 AM
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I think the crit-cam idea is the best ever, i also think the DD2 should be in 2D
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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58536
09/05/03 07:01 AM
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It shouldn't be autopaused, at least if it's duration if not much longer than ordinary death animation.


But Egin, in a fast-paced action game like DD or DII, a few seconds can define the difference between death and victory. You would know that two seconds is far enough for monsters to kill you when you play DD (Hard) or DII (Hell).

Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58537
09/05/03 07:11 AM
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But but there wasn't any noticeable delay in PST. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> so, I don't see any problem. Even if animation is a bit longer, then, while one mob is going to pieces you can attack another one, so this will not hurt your gameplay speed.

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Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58538
11/06/03 09:03 PM
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2D is absolutely beautiful for DD. Keep it as it is. An option to zoom would be cool (so I can see my character up close <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) but isn't essential. Make the storyline cool and the quests interesting, and that would make the game great. Also, IMO 3D usually looks hideous and is nausea-inducing.

Re: 2D or 3D DD2? #58539
11/06/03 11:56 PM
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Is the objective to sell the game, improve and use the technology of today that none before our time had the privilege to see themselves, or both? If other games come out that are similiar with DD2 but have better graphics what will the consumer buy? I light my vote as a torch to guide me ahead in this time of darkness...perhaps others can follow my light leading to a brighter world... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />


This is SpArTa!! oh im sorry, I must have took a wrong turn..somewhere...(runs away)

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