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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306627
17/01/06 01:49 AM
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I'm a little dissapointed with the XMas screenshot - while they made excellent use of SpeedTree, it's the ground texturing and those rocks that bother me. The ground texture doesn't seem to be taking use of the parallax mapping and neither does the rocks. Another thing is that the rocks on the ground have a very HIGH polycount as opposed to the large boulders - neither even seem to use bumpmapping or anything to give them a 3d look. I do not believe they are using any form of dynamic lighting either?

Anyway, it looks great but it doesn't seem like there was too much further work on the graphics engine they are using since they posted their first screenshots over 6 months ago, and that they are not using their current engine to it's full potential.



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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306628
17/01/06 02:35 AM
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I'm a little dissapointed with the XMas screenshot - while they made excellent use of SpeedTree, it's the ground texturing and those rocks that bother me. The ground texture doesn't seem to be taking use of the parallax mapping and neither does the rocks. Another thing is that the rocks on the ground have a very HIGH polycount as opposed to the large boulders - neither even seem to use bumpmapping or anything to give them a 3d look. I do not believe they are using any form of dynamic lighting either?

Anyway, it looks great but it doesn't seem like there was too much further work on the graphics engine they are using since they posted their first screenshots over 6 months ago, and that they are not using their current engine to it's full potential.



i would like to say 'yet' to your comments as i think Larian is still in the learning process & who knows, maybe they also factor in the wide range of computer performances so they have to balance performance against eye candy.

the way i see it, hardware T&L is just for looks only unless it's utilised in gameplay as how it's done in Deus Ex or Oddworld (light & shadow).



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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306629
17/01/06 12:36 PM
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What's parallax mapping anyway ?


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306630
17/01/06 02:43 PM
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Just look at the Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion screenshots, the engines are pretty much the same, each company might have tweaked them differently but they have the same possible features.

more info:
www.gamebryo.com


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306631
17/01/06 10:02 PM
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Amongst other things, the ground texturing system is still work in progress, this screenshot is not representative of the visual quality of the final game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

AlrikFassbauer : parallax mapping is one of the techniques used to fake relief on a flat surface, just like bump mapping, but one step further.

Re: Impressing Screenshots #306632
18/01/06 12:40 AM
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Amongst other things, the ground texturing system is still work in progress, this screenshot is not representative of the visual quality of the final game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yep but what is the final game you are talking about ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306633
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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306634
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Yep but what is the final game you are talking about ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />


A frogger clone, but don't tell anyone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />

Re: Impressing Screenshots #306635
18/01/06 10:58 AM
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

a frogger with crossing Orcs?

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306636
18/01/06 12:19 PM
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Okay, thanks. I understand now. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306637
21/01/06 10:26 PM
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thank you very much larian! A good thing my pc works again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Re: Impressing Screenshots #306638
22/01/06 01:39 PM
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Been away for a while haven't you?


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306639
22/01/06 05:37 PM
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yeh, I didnt had a working pc for almost a month...and that in the christmas vacation and a week of being sick... not very nice...


anyway, glad to be back <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Re: Impressing Screenshots #306640
22/01/06 06:39 PM
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Why is everybody always sick during the holidays? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306641
22/01/06 06:41 PM
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naahhh, i wasnt sick during the holidays, i was schoolsick the week after <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


Re: Impressing Screenshots #306642
22/01/06 06:53 PM
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naahhh, i wasnt sick during the holidays, i was schoolsick the week after <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

A strategic choice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306643
19/02/06 04:43 AM
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those screenshots are very nice.....and when may i ask, is there going to be any more information about the upcoming "blockbuster" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/alien.gif" alt="" /> .....and i changed my sig........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306644
19/02/06 09:16 PM
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Those screenshots do indeed show the change from previous games. The graphics are nicely done! Congratulations! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I was wondering when a new game will be released. Perhaps, the threads are burried somewhere underneath the many new ones <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

I am definitely looking forward to the latest from Larian. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Impressing Screenshots #306645
20/02/06 03:11 AM
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> welcome back, Gia. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />



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Re: Impressing Screenshots #306646
20/02/06 08:55 AM
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I am looking forward to it too.
Release of the game? the most irritating answer i often see: When it's done.


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