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#341669 22/04/07 08:15 AM
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Wheb doing a quick google search for info on the nextgen title, I came to some PS3 and 360 games sites that posted the test screenshots. Now I think it's because of the "next gen" that they think it will be released on those consoles (a fact that can become true). But the wii is always overlooked because it is underpowered (a fact I don't believe). So my question actually is. if larian decides to go console, does the wii have enough power to run the game? Watching Zelda or red steel i believe it could be possible.


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I don't own a next-gen console. I used to have an Atari 2600 in the early 80s, but that probably doesn't count. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> I don't plan on buying a console in the forseeable future, either. It would require me to also buy a large TV set, and since I don't watch TV, that would not be worth the investment.

#341671 27/04/07 09:11 PM
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My wii is hooked up to my pc screen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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#341672 28/04/07 03:36 AM
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I don't own a console. And I never will, unless somebody gives it to me for free (in which case I will need to find some space in my house for junk).


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#341673 30/04/07 12:08 PM
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I own a PS2 and since recently own a PS3.

I think it's possible for Larian to make a good RPG that's not being dumbed down for console owners.

Concerning the controller issues regarding the complex commands to perform, many games before have made a good use of all the controller buttons, and offered sometimes a real wide variety of possibilities by combining those buttons.

I do think a part of the console community is "immune" to the Larian-type of games (PC style RPG's), but another part of that community (I know it's a bit presomptuous to speak in their name, but what the hell...) really wants nothing more than getting a complex game with a deep background to play in the comfort of their couch.

And don't forget, a lot of console owners are just poor gamers who can't afford a good up-to-date computer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


#341674 20/09/07 04:01 PM
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I got a Wii for Christmas and love it. But when it comes to RPG, I loves me PC. I love keyboard/mouse control, and I love finding new mods.

That being said - the crackhouse that is BioWare is leading me towards an XBox 360 with a trail of shiny Mass Effect. Trying...to...resist....


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#341675 24/09/07 06:51 AM
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got an X360 and loving every minute of it.


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#341676 24/09/07 06:58 AM
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Please don't hurt the depth and complexity of the game just for the consoles.

To see how other console games manage inventory ect- check out metal gear solid 3 and resident evil 4.

#341677 06/10/07 05:49 PM
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I own a 360, a ps2, psp, ds and an up to date pc.
I used to hate it when a platform I didn't own got an exclusive.
So since me and my partner are both regular gamers, we decided to invest in every system, so no top-game would escape our grasp...

We still have a little way to go,
but I'de rather wait a bit before getting a ps3 or a Wii


#341678 07/10/07 03:35 AM
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Wii and 360

They rock.

But I spend more time on my PC =/



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I don't have one and won't buy one.

AND PLEASE if you make an RPG for both PC and Console DO NOT use the same interface for both. A console interface ported to PC is sooooo annoying...


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#341680 19/10/07 10:24 AM
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I don't have one and won't buy one.

AND PLEASE if you make an RPG for both PC and Console DO NOT use the same interface for both. A console interface ported to PC is sooooo annoying...


I can't agree more, good point. But more important is the contents...I fear it will be sized down for console players.

#341681 19/10/07 03:47 PM
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I own an old Xbox - but I'd sooner upgrade my beloved PC before I'd buy a newer console.

Did own a Wii - but got sick of it and traded it into Game.

My only hope is that the game is tailored for each platform rather than compromised to fit all.

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i just have a pc!!
an he yesterday dies <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

#341683 24/10/07 06:59 AM
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What's a console.......... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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#341684 24/10/07 08:52 PM
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What's a console.......... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

It reminds me the good old times. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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Hah! Finnaly an excu... err, I mean an OPPORTUNITY to ran... err, I mean TALK about consoles. So here goes:

I will not buy games for consoles that are available for the PC. Not Ever.

I think I will get a Wii sooner or later.

The Xbox 360 has some nice stuff, but probably not.

As for the PS3: Sorry, I´m not buying a 400€ console to play 1 game (Metal Gear Solid 4). Damn you Kojima Productions, DAMN YOU!!!

Frankly, there are precious few console games that are actually interesting enough to justify the investment (stuff like Zelda, Metroid, God of War, MGS, Geist, Eternal Darkness, a few others).
The rest are:
- The occasional action-adventure
- A lot of formulaic Japano-CRPGs
- A ton of absolutly braindead shooters/first-person-shooters
- 1 * 10^100000000000 sports/racing games

Not a lot of variety, is it?
Also, the action adventures are mostly hum-drum with a a few nice ones sneaked in between (Zelda, for example).
CRPGs are so formulaic that only the very best can distract me for even a short while from the fact that I have played the same game with different names a hundred times before
Almost all the Shooters/FPSs are braindead, give me Noone Lives Forever or System Shock 2 over Halo 3 any day! And to add insult to injury, they cannot even match the PC in the most important selling point for FPS: Eye candy. It will take at least 2 generations before consoles will even get close to Crysis. And the only explanation I can find for using two sticks and a gazillion buttons over the simple elegance of WASD + a mouse with 2 buttons and a wheel... Masochism!
Finnaly I simply dont like sports/racing games. Thus, looking through the shelves and seeing that 90% of the games fall into this category is a slap in the face.

I hope I have not bored and/or insulted anyone to much with my rantings. But I occasionally need to vent on consoles because they suck up the majority of production capital in the Software Entertainment business, while putting out maybe 1 or 2 games a year with any merit whatsoever (from my perspective), and even fewer that could not have been ported to the PC, were it not exclusiveness deals)
Worse, they often cause PC games to be dumbed down, both to adapt the gameplay to the inferior User-Interface possibilities, and to apeal more to the mythical "mass-market", which apparently consists exclusively of male american teenagers with attention spans that you´ld need an atomic clock to measure.

No I don´t really believe that. But the marketing departments of publishers for consoles do.

So for the love of whatever entities you worship, Lar, do NOT get involved with the console world in any way that would give them any influence, whatsoever, over your work.

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No console,not now,not ever!!

And please don't dumb down,size down,use console interface,etc,etc,etc,to suit console players.

The long standing fans of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> are PC players!

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And to add insult to injury, they cannot even match the PC in the most important selling point for FPS: Eye candy. It will take at least 2 generations before consoles will even get close to Crysis.

But you would also need to buy a new PC that costs twice as much as an Xbox 360 or a PS3 to actually see that eyecandy*. When you buy a console, you know that you can still buy and play the newest games 3 years in the future.
I agree completely on everything else though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.

* a new nVidia card (the Geforce 8800 GT) can give you 19 frames per second (with the demo set to 1280x1024, all details set to very high and using DirectX 10). You can ofcourse buy two and put them in a SLI configuration, which is much better, but then you will have to pay another 250€, more than half a console.

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And to add insult to injury, they cannot even match the PC in the most important selling point for FPS: Eye candy. It will take at least 2 generations before consoles will even get close to Crysis.

But you would also need to buy a new PC that costs twice as much as an Xbox 360 or a PS3 to actually see that eyecandy*. When you buy a console, you know that you can still buy and play the newest games 3 years in the future.
I agree completely on everything else though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.


Well, thats the whole point: If they cannot be on the cutting edge graphics-wise, they better up their games with good gameplay. Halo 3 has many people stifling yawns because it´s just MOTS. Also, why a genre for which consoles are inherently inferior is so prevalent on them is beyond me.

Oh, and sure, you can buy the "newest" games for 3 years. Except that the "newest" games will steadily fall further and further behind technolically. So consoles do not slow the breakneck pace at which game hardware becomes obsolete at all, they merely "hide it from view".
And once the 3 years are up, no more new games are made for your console, effectively turning it into an overpriced Emulator for nostalgia-games.

And while I´ll be the first to admit that keeping up with the State of the Art on the PC will bleed you dry financially, it becomes a lot more affordable if you stick to the mid-range products. Example: If you stick a new 200€ graphics card into your PC every 2-3 years, you can play roughly 75% of games with 75% of the graphic bells&whistles turned on.
Yes, in the long run console HARDWARE will a bit less expensive. The reason for that is that the manufacturers are actually LOOSING money on the consoles themselves (with the notable exception of the Wii), which they make back via the licensing fees from 3rd party games. This is why prices for console games are so obscene; this is only a very rough estimate, but the financial "break-even" point between consoles and PCs of equal horsepower is at about 5 games.

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