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Hello, everyone.

I guess it would a wiser to put suggestions for new monsters in here, and leave the "wish list" to the combat/fighting or other topics.

Quote from Lar_q (actually Lar) from the "wish list" thread :



First suggestions by isorun :




I haven't made up my own suggestions yet, but I think I'll try. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

So now go on and add things (swamp things ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ) to this thread !

Alrik

I like fighting ninjas or something similar.

And also big, dumb and slow enemys <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> especially if they can kill you in one hit (or almost anyway).

Maybe an idea would be a 4 legged (and 2 arms) scythe wielding demonlike char. It has a kinda slow attack but high movespeed. It has ramlike horns and it has the magic ability to put everything he touches with his scythe on fire.
So basicly a centaur from hell with some devillike looks (and a big bad scythe).
maybe give it some lobsterlike (or crablike I'm not sure) shielding and some nasty spikes on his shoulders. (And maybe also a tail with similar nasty spikes.)
I'd use red and black colors only (you know for the straight from hell kinda look). Maybe fire in his eyes, abit like sauron from lotr.

speaking of lotr, maybe balrog but in a smaller form, a winged flying demon is a must anyway.

and please add yeti's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'd like to see rock giants immune (or highly resistant) to piercing and slashing damage, as well as most fire or lighting based spells. You should need crushing damage to hurt them or very hot fire, etc.

They don't really count as cool, but insect swarms should be highly immune to physical damage; 3 swings of a sword shouldn't be able to kill a few dozen or hundred insects. They should be vulnerable to most magical attacks that have any kind of area effect (even secondary effects, like heat from a fireball) as well as torches (perhaps laced with incense). Small swarms shouldn't be able to do a lot of physical damage (though could be very distracting, lowering you offensive and defensive capabilities) but different insects could use different types of poison.


I don't want to have to carry a dozen weapons with me, but needing 2 or 3 different types to adapt to different opponents is reasonable and realistic.

Good plan, Alrik <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hydras are cool, and I don't think I've ever seen one in a CRPG. All the multiple heads must be pretty hard to animate convincingly I guess, but it'd be one heck of a problem to beat one. I think we could skip the 2-heads-for-1 thing, though. I should imagine that would be almost impossible to implement.

If flyers are in, manticores would be good. Dangerous from a distance and up close, and they can fly.

For some reason I like the idea of four-armed minotaurs, too.

And yes, I do like a challenge <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

¡aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ayudame!

why not something more Asian in flavour rather than the usual Greek/Roman mythical creatures? maybe a shape-shifting fox (one of the bad bosses, derived from japanese mythology), snake den (gotta love that snake pit in DD), imps (Malaysian one that is <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> ) that can steal & put curses on u but no physical damage which can also be familiars of some bosses u'll encounter, demons from the seven layers of hell (Chinese Taoist folklore) that normally target different sins (a bit like the biblical 7 sins), warrior assasins (can be dressed up as ninjas) of 5 elements, etc.

i will think of some more.

in fact, i just came up with an idea of a kind of mage specialising in curses, some sort of a hybrid of necromancer as well. well it's based a lot on witch doctor lore here in south east Asia. it would involve NPCs, & items found in the game world to create certain curses or potions & such.

will write more on this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Shape-Shifting fox ? We had one in the Old Forum, German-language section. I think his name was Renard, and he was in the first role playing topic here which could be found in the books in the "Larian Dungeon".

I'd say, take a look at antique, medieval and ancient creatures from scripts.

What I remember from an roman arc in a local musuem here is for example a creature with the first half being kind of a horse and the second harlf looking like a big fish. I don't know its name.

This would be a sea creature, I guess, and I wouldn't declare it evil, especially since I believe that not all monsters should necessarily be evil.
Some should really be friendly and talkative.


Celtic monsters often look interesting, too. Just found this book with celtic patterns with a quick search.

What I personally would find interesting is, to inclkude a monster that can later be actually found in an museum. Gamers (who hardly ever go into a museum, according to the cliché <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> ) could recognise it there, thus this would become kind of an easter egg. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Ah, by the way, have mermaids been introduced in fantasy games ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melusine

The horse-fish is called a Hippocampus, Alrik <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Dragged that up from my D&D playing days <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Ah! I knew it !

I didn't want to write it down because I wasn't sure !

Thanks ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I don´t know.

I´d rather not see the Larians playing "copycats" too much. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

So about monsters from the various blends of mythologies:
As an inspiration: yes
As 1:1 copy: rather not, please.

A monster with the multi-head feature akin to the Hydra from the Greek realm would make for a great vista, though. And probably an interesting challenge w/ regards to combat tactics. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

But hard to convicingly animate. And balance, too, on the other hand.


Another issue depends of course, whether the new game will have us re-visiting Rivellon again, in fact?
If so, another negative for real world lore creatures.

What i´ll be prefering then is more originality and creativity in the monster´s department. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" />

Like marvellous pet of Iona in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />



Hm. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
What is the reference you have this from?
`You sure you mean a Manticor? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
IIRC this is a huge lion with a male human face and a scorpion´s tail originating from Asia Minor´s lore. No flying abilities as far as i know. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

Maybe you were more aiming for the Gryphon or Griffin of the ancient Greek?
Two forms i know of:
- A lion with an eagle´s wings.
- The same, but also borrowing the head from the eagle sample.


Ragon, the Mage

Ragon...

The confusion with the manticore is easy to understand. There are two creatures with very similar names: the Manticora which has the scorpion tail you describe and the manticore which has a tail ending in lots of spikes like a porcupine that it can shoot forth like arrows.

Except for the tail, they are otherwise identical, having a human face, a lion's body and big bat wings (Though the wings seem to be optional depending on the story). Mythology, huh? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Edit: after a bit of research, it looks like the AD&D game added the wings. Otherwise, my descriptions seem to be correct <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'd like to see a friendly Pegasus. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I don't remember having seen this creature in any fantasy game yet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I thought that Pegasus was just a unicorn with wings, that Herkules was given afther his birth from his father zuse, from the greek mythology.
pegasus is just a name isn't it?


Monsters, if it's possible to continue playing after fineshed the game, there must be creature that is hard enough, cus in DD in the waistlands all creatures is relative easy.
and there would be hard to lvl up to a high lvl.

so it must allways exist harder enemys to kill, and quests.

And to find harder enemys, there maybe would be areas that's full of demons and when going further they become harder and bigger, and u get pionts or something so show how long out you made it.

Pegasus is actually a singular creature in Greek myth, the last of a herd holy to (I think) Zeus who were wiped out in some fashion I don't now recall. Perseus rode him to rescue Andromeda from the Kraken.

That said, the common use of 'Pegasus' now denotes any winged horse. It's become a general term rather than a specific name.

Konrad Zuse war the German inventor of one of the first computers EVER ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

And a Pegasus NEVER has a horn - at least I don't know one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Of all them myth creatures I think the Chimaera takes the trophy, 3 heads 1 lion 1 wolf 1 goat and a tail like a snake with a head.

phoenix and a Hippogriff or waht is that creature called with the head of a falcon but the body of a lion?

A griffin <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

A Hippogriff is a horse body + head & wings of a falcon <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

sorry i meant Zeus in the Greek mythology. not the one that inventet the computer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

like Elliot_Kane said. And..... no, maybe no horn.

A monster...umm...The spirit of an orange firey dragon which has two necks and heads. The necks come out of the back of the possessed being and leans over its shoulders as it attacks, while the body of the being attacks with it. It's attack is a short ranged flame attack. The dragon spirit has large immunity to most magical attacks, and the best way to defeat it is to destroy the body it is possessing. After this happens, the spirit will fully emerge and attack you frantically. Once it emerges from the body, it becomes weaker to magic, but all physical attacks do little damage. This general idea was inspired by a set of wings on a game called the Legend of Mir 2.