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Originally Posted by Pyrion
Probably because the vast majority of gamers who spend that kind of money on both games and systems want to get as much out of their money as possible, so playing a new game at very low settings just to get good framerate simply doesn't cut the mustard anymore.

Now, for the cheaterstrike rejects who are used to the idea of buying completely new hardware just to drop the resolution to 800x600 and drop all settings to low along with a very high gl_picmip just to get the highest framerate possible as if it matters... well, they don't count. smile

What?

Look, all I'm saying is, it does not take a 2000$+ computer quadruple sli video cards to enjoy today's quality of video games. This machine has lasted for 2 years, and is still going strong, chewing up and spitting out newer game after newer game. People who can only afford a cheap 350$ HP computer system from office depot, really aren't entitled to an opinion when it comes to a game being resource heavy or not and should stick to consoles instead. If you can't keep up, oh well, too bad. Sadly, that's just how it is for pc gaming.

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Hey I m new to this board and didnt know where else to put this but can anyone say how much that texture mod from MasterOfDarkness affects framerate. Also why do my framerates never go above 60 fps, there is no Vsync option and I havent tried to force it through the Nvidia control panel neither. Im using FRAPS

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Originally Posted by Ninjavitis
Look, all I'm saying is, it does not take a 2000$+ computer quadruple sli video cards to enjoy today's quality of video games.


It does if you want to play Crysis "as it was meant to be played." They don't put quality sliders in games just for shits and giggles.

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People who can only afford a cheap 350$ HP computer system from office depot, really aren't entitled to an opinion when it comes to a game being resource heavy or not and should stick to consoles instead. If you can't keep up, oh well, too bad. Sadly, that's just how it is for pc gaming.


I wholeheartedly agree.

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Originally Posted by Pyrion
"as it was meant to be played." They don't put quality sliders in games just for shits and giggles.


That may be so, I always crank up the graphics on a game just to see if my card can handle it and it does. The only slider I don't use is AA. It just isn't needed. It's nice, maybe, but not needed. I barely notice it's off. Besides, the speculation for crysis about it being a resource hog was more so that it required an expensive system to play at all period, not just cranked up to the highest settings. Not spending 2000-3000$ on a computer and still enjoying the game to its fullest potential as opposed to doing so and using AA? they cancel each-other out and are therefore meaningless. I play it the way it was meant to be played.

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If you play on HD ofc you don't need any AA, but I hardly believe a 2 year PC can run Crysis on its highest settings on HD, simply because mine is actually 2 years old, and back when I bought it it was considered to be high-end, and Crysis only worked smooth (smooth being 24-28 FPS) on High settings. That is before all the Crysis tuners came out that made the game look 10 times better, and work 10 times smoother, which only shows how much Crysis IS actually a resource hog. Besides, Crysis itself may be strong on the tech side, but when it comes to the scenery and artistic of the game itself, there was nothing "impressive" or "breathtaking" about it, while D2 definitely has its moments. Crysis is just demo for their engine.

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Right, antialiasing is for playing at lower resolutions where jaggies are far more pronounced. I don't bother with AA at 1920x1200 either, even though my system is more than capable of handling it, simply because it serves no purpose. If you're capable of noticing jaggies at that resolution, then you need to stop staring at a motionless character, put your hands back on the mouse and keyboard, and actually play the damned game.

That wasn't my point though. Crank everything else up and try playing it on a system from three years ago. Tell me how that goes if you want, though I have a pretty good idea how that'd go since I did that with Crysis back on my Athlon 64 X2 from 1-2 years ago.

And as for Crysis' gameplay value, I beat it in eight hours and never looked back. It's a benchmarking tool that generates interactive Scenery Porn. I prefer my games to have actual substance to them, even if the graphics are sub-par with Crysis in mind.

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Crysis came out mid november 2007. I built my computer mid december 2007. It ran crysis just fine. The 8800gt and the q6600 i had back then are still going strong today.

Tech demo maybe (even though it's game play was unique to a majority of shooters at that time.) It also had the best graphics quality at that time. Of course its not the best anymore.

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Originally Posted by Libertarian
What "hardcore player" wants to rush through an RPG in 17 hours. I like to explore A LOT.


First of all i say " with make 90% of quests" divinity world is SMALL even compare to old games like g2 + night of raven
what a point of exploring empty areas if u know there is totally nothing if i want look on nive views or look on good trees i play g3 or olbi but g3 is max buggfest and ai is crap like hell
and obli is uber easy even with ooo or other overhaul mods

d2 got potencial but rly rly rly bad lvl system ( 5 lvls = invicibility to either of pc or mob)
make game one time rly fun . u cannot do antyhing diferent like u cannot for exemle go to fjords on lvl 13-14 becouse mobs will anihilate u not rly marher how good items u have , and that force player to follow main quest but following main quest after u get your battle tower is boring becouse mobs from that moment start to be lower lvl than u so : god mode is on and after u hit 30 u can go to any place in game and if u got lvl 5 rgen u cna simply go afk and mobs will not kill u .

libertarian : u see i played morrowind like bilion times i know exacly in what chest is what deadric armor in what chest is what deadric claymore etc but that dont mean liek in d2 that game start to be borring.

btw if any one want rly good story in game try freelancer is a space sim more than rpg but story is kick ass

ninjavitis : huh 2-3 k pc for gaming ?>? rotfl i made mine for aboute 1 k and its able to play any game on full detail in full hd without any rpoblems 60 fps constant , bah i can play 2 dao with full texture pack mods on 2 monitors in same time and still get around 40 fps . the whole point is to know how to build pc . real gamer never ever buy premadet pc becouse its cost at last 2 times more than if u make it by yourself

also is no point in buy quad procesors for games e8400 is alot faster in most of games (eccept arma2) than most of quad cores ( maybe only extreme are faster due of more cashe but the cost much more ) is alot better to buy c2d e8400 and cash u save put in beast graphic card same is with ddr3 dont buy it but ddr2 1066 and oc timings saved cash put in graphic card. for price of i7 processor u can get e8400 + gtx 295 so what real point of buyng that cpu? non
so dont spread bs aboute 2-3 k gaming pc cuz good gamer make pc for 1-1.5 k and can play in games for 3 or more years and than he can upgrade easy

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Originally Posted by marcusdavidus


d2 got potencial but rly rly rly bad lvl system ( 5 lvls = invicibility to either of pc or mob)
make game one time rly fun . u cannot do antyhing diferent like u cannot for exemle go to fjords on lvl 13-14 becouse mobs will anihilate u not rly marher how good items u have , and that force player to follow main quest but following main quest after u get your battle tower is boring becouse mobs from that moment start to be lower lvl than u so : god mode is on and after u hit 30 u can go to any place in game and if u got lvl 5 rgen u cna simply go afk and mobs will not kill u .

I can't agree with this wink

I go to the Orobas Fjords when I was level 13! I kill one by one the Goblins and they are level 18!! Okay, with using greater healing potions, but I DID it and so I level up very quickly! and go futher explore the Orobas Fjords without having my Battle Tower!!

I'm using on that moment a combination of following strategy:
using first Magic Missile (+ passiv skills confusion and destruction to improve a spell!) and combine with arrows! If a Goblin see me, I go backwards a little so justs 1 goblin comes closer... If he is close by, I take a melee weapon and used Wirlwind if if hits me to hard and go again backwards and using magic again! Each Goblin of 5 level above me give me more than 1500 XP!! grin

Edit: AND I'm sure other gamers can do this also on their own way, with another strategy! and next time I go to the Orobas Fjord I wish to use another possibility... who knowns?

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u cannot rly pickup mobs one by one without points in ranger tree.Also i was say aboute "hardest" dificulty lvl becouse normal is just ... hmm easy ?
also even if u some how do kill imps on beggining of fjords that make battle lower adn island adventures even easier and its bring god mode even faster so what a point?


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Originally Posted by marcusdavidus
ninjavitis : huh 2-3 k pc for gaming ?>? rotfl i made mine for aboute 1 k and its able to play any game on full detail in full hd without any rpoblems 60 fps constant


Funny because you said your PC was 2k here.

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i dont want to play game with 5 years old graphic on my 2k $ pc


More accuracy, and less mistakes, please.

For the record you can probably build a decent gaming PC for less than 1k if you shop around.



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Originally Posted by marcusdavidus
ninjavitis : huh 2-3 k pc for gaming ?>? rotfl i made mine for aboute 1 k and its able to play any game on full detail in full hd without any rpoblems 60 fps constant , bah i can play 2 dao with full texture pack mods on 2 monitors in same time and still get around 40 fps . the whole point is to know how to build pc . real gamer never ever buy premadet pc becouse its cost at last 2 times more than if u make it by yourself



You want to re-read my posts maybe? I built mine for around 1000$ (minus peripherals.) My whole argument was that building or buying a pc for 2-3000$ wasn't needed. It has handled every game from the date i built it to now, no problem, max graphics except for AA, which again, is also not needed. Including this game, even though its a mediocre and poorly optimized engine.

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unreal yes maybe i dont write it corectly i pay for my pc around 1400 $ . i write 2 k only to show a point
and ninja ok but i rly dont read your next post :P


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Greetings!

As many have already stated (and I realize I'm coming in 3 months after the last post), the graphics do not "kill" the game for me. They're simpler than some other games, but definitely on the artistic side, which I appreciate. The cut-scene graphics look great to me, and I can easily immerse myself in the Divinity world.

I tend towards the rough-edged graphics, as opposed to the "spit polish" kind-- in my opinion, the rough-edge graphics look more artistic and 'hand made', which is my preference.

Also can't help but to mention-- if the storyline isn't good enough, the graphics don't matter to me! I play games for story and immersion (same reason for reading fiction-- immersion into a life other than the one I live), so the former is paramount to me. Larian definitely has good storyline w/ Divinity and Ego Draconis, but I had a hard time getting into Beyond Divinity (preference being for open world exploring, less dungeons). I am looking forward, with great anticipation, to the add-on!

Something I learned very early on when I started gaming was this: do not compare one game with another, enjoy it for itself. I may like one over another, but I can appreciate each game/story for itself-- just as I would with a book or movie.

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Here I was just thinking today that I loved the look of the game, and thinking how all the German games I've played have been beautiful and detailed. (Drakensang, Gothic series, now this) I especially love the look of the tavern in broken vale.

I was very underwhelmed by the visuals of Dragonage. Some spots were amazing, but the art styling I didn't care for at all really.

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The graphics are nice and detailed and more than good enough for me AND I play on Xbox (on pc the graphics are clearer/sharper than on Xbox) !

If the graphics are really very very good, but the gameplay isn't good, I do not wish to play a game!
If the gameplay is really very good, but the graphics are not so good, I wish to play that game! biggrin


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I think the graphics look great...the only small issue I see with the visual presentation is the animations could be smoother.

BTW, I have never in my life spent more than $900 on a computer and play games at high settings. The idea that it takes $2000 to enjoy PC gaming to it's fullest is pure rubbish.

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I like the graphics, really nice enough to keep you playing without any problems smile
The only thing that bothered me once or twice were the "flat" 2D-images of branches for some of the trees (like spruces etc). But nothing major, It's a great game and I like the way it looks smile

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For me the graphics are fine, once I turn off HDR. Gameplay and story and ambience are what matter to me. Just getting started; when I entered the church in the first village I almost smelled the incense. I really like the overall design and feel of the world so far.

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