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I'm playing through for the 2nd time, trying out many of the tips from the forums, and looking for things I missed the first time around (there are lots!)... Did know about Alrik's poetry in the performance outside the magic shop, but was pleased to find a book at Rimmer's containing more of his work. Are there others?

And can anyone share a bit of the history of the development of Divinity - both the wonderfully addictive game itself, and the fan community ties responsible for so many delightful game perks?

Thanks to all.

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Alrik... please answer this one yourself. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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Well, I've just seen this thread, and because of my lazyness, I'm just posting the contents of an e-mail I sent out some days ago.

It's about the "Lost Kingdom", the german-language books you find in the Easter Egg Area. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

You can have the translation by e-mailing me, or by looking on german-language fanpages.

If you have a fanpage and want the translation, too, PM me.


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Hello.

I send you with this E-Mail as attachments the original German Text of the
Story. Additioonally, I'll send you my Translation.

I consider it as somewhat rough, but on the other hand it still is the only
available translation of the whole story. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


The text itself arose as a kind of "forum-role-playing" : We decided to write
down an advemture with tendency to more or less "true" role-playing, and with
that, every contributor told a part of the story.

"That was many years ago" (Genesis), and in the German part of the Old Forum.
Checking the offline pages I still have, the topic began in January 2000. The
Larian Forum was erected 1999.

The Topic had the simple name "Rollenspiel", which means "Role-Play" (rather
than "Role-Playing" ) in English. I renamed it for the translation into
"Rescuing the Princess" (which indeed was the intention of the characters of
the role-playing game hehe ) .

Somewhere in / on the Fan-Page of Anthea there is a sort of compiled version of
the original, german topic.

Well, now I decided to put the original text as an RTF file into the package;
the whole HTML files - with all data like background pictures and buttons)
would be around 1 MB. I don't have such a good connection (dial-up-connection)
for sending such big e-mails , so I want to try to keep the whole package
small.

The texts are in RTF and in HTML format. I think this should be okay.

And now a few notes on the role-playing itself :

As you might know - or not - Larian Studios once worked on a game called
"Unless - The Treachery". This was partly bought up by a german developing
company called Attic. They renamed it into LMK : The Lady, the Mage and the
Knight; the german title was a bit different : Legenden der Magier-Kriege
(still LMK) [Legends of the Mage-Wars].

In a quarrel, Larian and Attic split, and in order to simply survive, Larian
had to develop something - it became "Project C" (rumor says that "C" stood for
"Cash" - which later turned to become "Divinity - The Sword of Lies". Some
employees of Attic were at Larian then, too.

Why do I say all this ? Well, it's because LMK was intended to be compatible
with the famous German RPG System "Das Schwarze Auge" (DSA). Well it's famous
here in Germany, but the rest of the world desn't know it - with two exceptions
:
1. The more or less predecessor of LMK was the "Realms of Arcania" series,
which was translated into English by Sir-Tech. These were three games, known
here in Germany as the "Nordland-Trilogie" [Northland-Trology] :
Schicksalsklinge [Blade of Destiny], Sternenschweif [Startrail] and Schatten
über Riva [Shadows over Riva].

2. Only a few months ago, the original developer of the RPG System, Fantasy
Productions (FanPro) released this underlying RPG System as "The Dark Eye" into
the English market.

The original RPG Topic - which later became the "Lost Kingdom" epic - *also*
used originally elements from this RPG System : Character names, classes,
peoples, even Gods.

In the text which appears in the game, however, the editor - Bronthion - had to
erase there references, because he feared it wouldn't be allowed because it had
no license for using these elements.
I tried this, too.

A seldom noticed reference to DSA is how the Elves speak in their native tongue
in Divinity : It's like how the Elves speak in DSA ! ;-) (Kind of Easter Egg,
too ;-) )

As a summary : There exist three versions of the "Lost Kingdom" epic (role-
playing text) :

- The original german-language topic with all references included
- My translation, with all references taken away
- Bronthion's german-language version, also with all references taken away, and
with the pages shuffled a bit, it seems to me. ;-)

From the original, there are two versions : The original pages I saved onto my
harddisk, and the pure text taken out of these pages into one RTF document.


The translation itself was very hard for me, a) because it was totally new to
me to translate such a text (with *lots* of rarely-used words like "chain-mail"
! ) and b) due to time constraints. I had to do it in a definitive amount of
time, meanwhile colliding with another important project I had to do during my
training as a programmer.

Since then, my translation skills have become stronger, but still need a *lot*
of work. ;-) I recently translated a FanFiction story in the Star Wars Universe
from German into English. ;-)

Well, that's it ! Have Fun ! ;-)

Alrik.


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> hello!
> um, WOW. so my understanding is that you have been following larian for a
> while? you must be affiliated somehow to know so much. anyway, why put it in
> such an odd place in the game? when i was "saving" the game developers, i
> remember someone saying "you *must* read my epic" or something like that, and then
> someone else saying that "the file was too large to translate in time." i'm
> guessing they were talking about this? well it is very nice of you to send
> this to me. it's much easier than sitting with an english/german dictionary!
>
> smiles!
> *jacinda*
>

Yes, I think that was it.

Bronthion was once an ordinary ;-) Forummember, and somehow moved into Larian.

Yes, the german and Belgian Fan-Basew are very closely connected to Larian. ;-)

During Development, some of "us" actually travelled to Larian at Gent and did
some Beta-Testing there (Bronthion did it, and Arhu, and Eolus, among others).

That's how Bronthion came to them, I guess.

Once I asked him, if they needed texts ( I knew there would be books), I'd give
them this one.

The translation of the "Lost Kingdom" was planned to be included in the game,
but didn't make it somehow. *shrugs with shoulders*

A short historical note : We were once ( I mean the core fan base ) members at
Attic's Forum.

Attic seemingly went bancrupt after the Split with Larian, and so the Forum was
drowning, just like Atlantis.

After a short time of "wandering around", Larian offered us a new Exile, which
we greately accepted. hehe

That's how I look it this Forum : Our exile, but we never can go back, because
Atlantis is no more. ;-) Which doesn't mean it doesn't appeal to us ! ;-)
(The Attic Forum didn't have the name "Atlantis". I only used this as a
picture.)

Once in a Year we usually meet at FanPro's original RPG meeting, the RatCon.
Marian was often there, too, so we could get nerws from him. ;-)

Alrik.



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Alrik, thanks so much! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> This is great material, and explains a lot that I had been wondering about....

[And thanks, Seth! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> ]

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Just a short note / correction :

Something of Attic might still live, because I once saw the NLT (Realms of Arcania series) being re-published by a different publisher (it was Shoebox, who published Gothic 1 in the first place here in Germany). So someone must still have the rights on the NLT.


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You're welcome. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
-I hadn't seen that thank you before. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> LMK, ATTIC, LARIAN WHY OH WHY DID YOU ALL GO AWAY!?!?!?!?

those pictures look awesome, and the story I read about a while ago sounded coo,l but I never saw pics until now!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

am I wrong, or do they have the Marian sort of touch to them? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />



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For all interested in having a look at these wonderful pics from LMK, the link from a privately hosted site. The text is in German, but these pictures - they speak for themselves, don't you agree?

http://www.lmkworld.de/bilder/

Kiya

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If I'm just doing something illegal or stir up painful memories, please inform me, so I can delete this post - thank you. I just wanted to share these gems, they're so beautiful (and I still could not let go, had waited sooo long for this game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> - from 1998 on to Jan. 2001? Tempus fugit, not sure )

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They are great. They remind me a bit in style of the artwork of 'Rage of Mages'.

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gegen das vergessen.

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