Holly shit you are doing it again dude.
I wen through your posts to see were your behaviour comes from.
You seem to get in those kinds of fights quiet often on there forums. Ever thought why thats the case?
What am i doing again?
Explaining things to you while youre incapable to say anything but splurge various empty declaratory statements including repeated ad hominems and strawman arguments?
There is no fights, just a discussion in which you fail to support your statements with anything and are constantly flipping back to fallacies instead.
You went through my posts? So... what? Do you think that "going through my posts" somehow gives you the right to proclaim that im just fighting with "people"?
Your favorite words seem to be declaratory statements and strawman.
When you make declaratory statements and strawman arguments - what am i supposed to call those? Pretty clouds and unicorns?
Its not my problem there is about half dozen of idiots like you around who aren't capable of saying or writing anything but.
Even when clearly and directly asked to do so.
Everytime someone has an opinion that goes against your view of what a rpg, or this rpg wshould look like you try to put him/her down by throwing around words you learned in highschool debate club, not realizing, (see your last post for prove) that you are doing the same thing.
Thats another pathetic ad hominem.
And pathetic insane attempt to claim something, thinking it is then true.
Your post history proves that beyond any doubt.
Empty declaratory statement that only shows how delusional you are.
You seem to be very passionate about the game, thats cool, you also seem to be very passionate against mass market rpg market, thats cool too, where it stops being cool is that you think you you are above the other player that are not against that mass market as you see it.
How do you know what i think? Is it "obvious" to you? Telepathically?
btw, this doesnt have anything to do with "passion about one thing or the other" - it has to do with your empty declaratory statements and repeated fallacies.
You might want to stop making fallacious declaratory statement about what i am thinking or feeling too. It makes you look like psychologically deranged person.
In addition to the rest.
That is clearly visible by the language you use, for example when you use phrases like "players like you" which you did more than once in you post history. I know you will falsely call adhominem again, but really sheds light on your behaviour.
Players like you means just players like you. It doesnt mean i think i am "above other players" which is just a nonsense your butthurt brain invents - because thats some kind of infinite loop it runs in, a limited range you cant exceed.
Do you think by you quoting my sentences and replying to it that is proof? and me not quoting you and replying to your whole text that is not? Seriously?
No, just replying to something doesnt mean much. What the reply consists of does.
My replies were and are explanations, yours are deranged simpleton ad hominems, strawman arguments and empty declaratory statements.
Plus these paranoid statements about what i am thinking...
You are throwing around declaratory statements around in your whole text, just reread what you have written that is way i am saying you are doing the exact same thing. And yes i can say it, just reread what you have written. Ar you *seriously* not getting this at all*
See what you wrote:
"It makes the verisimilitude of the setting stronger, coherence and internal logic of the game world greater and more divested from the players like you."
Its an example, its a statement without any proof or argument behind it, its a subjective view without proof and you are trying to put yourself above "players like me" with your last words.
Thats an explanation, not a declaratory statement, its just that you lack cognitive abilities to understand it.
You see, there is no notion of people or creatures just healing by themselves in this specific game world - setting.
There are items that do that and there is magic that does that.
So anything that works like that strengthens the internal consistency of the game world, while if any sort of health regen would be forced in - it would detract from it and be completely alien in this game and its internal logic - for your personal convenience.
This feature also plays a important role in some parts of the story, like when you get rot disease. If characters would heal by themselves then Rot disease would have no point existing at all.
If you would want that only player character heal while no others could it would be even worse.
And no, thats not a strawman, that is what your words are saying. Strawman also does *not* mean what you think it means, at least most of the time you throw it around.
I didnt say that was a strawman argument at all.
Basically what you are implying with this is "i am right because i know more and older games than you" which you can not possible know. Speaking about childish ad hominis .. right?
No, thats a strawman.
It means you are directly and obviously inventing what i am presumably "implying" and "thinking" and putting those words in my mouth.
Another statement of yours:
"All in all, a very clear case of psychological projection where you are behaving "childishly" and resort to personal insults and attacks because someone disagrees with your empty, unsupported opinion, instead of providing a single supporting argument for your declaratory statements."
Dont you see the irony in it? Your statement is the exact thing you are accusing me of. Seriously dude? At this point i am about to congratulate you to a very well done trolling. If i were you i would call adhominem on that statement aswell.
That statement is actually correct and true since that is all you have managed to say. Your very words prove that so there is no need for me to explain that further.
I quoted your words as im doing right now. You prove it yourself. Repeatedly.
You are pathetically attempting some sort of reverse psychology schtick but im not sure if you even can understand what you are doing.
And btw calling someone to stop arrogant behavior is not adhominem. Its calling someone out for being arrogant because conversation is tiresome with such a person. I am not trying to invalidate your arguments with it, i simply ask you to stop behaving in a certain way. Again inproper use of the word.
You ask me to "stop behaving in a certain way" and that "way" is what you say it is - because you just feel like it?
Because you just declare it such?
Purely rhetorically... are you even sane?
Anyhow, i am not going to reply to your childish attacks anymore, its pointless, you basically doing what you are accusing me of yourself all the time and state that i can not say it, for some reason only you know. Thats like someone denying the sky is blue. Pointless.
Maybe you don't mean to come off that hostile and arrogant, i don't know.
And you repeat that "childish" schitck as if its a broken records pinning in your head.
Its not surprising that you see this as "hostile and arrogant etc" but thats your personal opinion based on wrong, fallacious motivations of repeated attempts to weasel out of the discussion by trying to attack my "personality" or my "motives" or "thinking" - none of which you have any knowledge about.
So, you basically just repeat your small little loop of nonsense declaratory statements and personal attacks.
After i pointed out that you are doing that.
- back to just repeating what you already said. Because repeating things, hoping it will work is a sign of intelligence.
While i agree, its a subjective PoV you have to accept that your view on that is subjective aswell and not the ultimate truth either.
No, there is no equality between me and you in any sense.
Yours is the subjective view, mine considers the game internal coherence and game world logic first.
Forums are there to express one views and discuss is, for players like you and players like me and players like the rest of people.
Sure, but empty declaratory statements, ad hominems, personal attacks and other assorted fallacies are worthless.
One should be able to explain his opinions instead of just stating them and expecting that has any actual value.
My argument from earlier still stand, despite you not accepting or countering it.
You didnt make any arguments, Just spouted more empty, unsupported nonsense. You cant just say that your argument "still stands" because thats just an empty declaratory statement that makes it clear you are not capable of understanding reality.
Yes you are right, you can not expect to have the same considerations inside and outside of combat.
That is exactly my point. You don't have considerations at all outside of combat, you just do it and it costs time. And you have to do it after (almost) every battle, thats why i call it pointless.
What you call something is irrelevant.
Its your personal subjective reaction. >your own problem.
Thats the point.
It doesnt cost time, you dont have to do it after every battle unless you play badly and healing your characters so they are ready for the next fight is not pointless.
Plus it reinforces the internal coherence of the setting and it is directly used as a feature in parts of the story - as i explained already.
It does not feel like i accomplish anything, it feels, to me, like a combersome task i have to repeat over and over again.
It is not a false anything presented, its an explanation why its a poor gameplay feature.
Its just a statement about how it makes you feel.
That it adds to the world or is consistent with the universe etc yada yada yada is a personal view and not the ultimate truth.
One could always say, the comfort of a town lets you regenerate, or source hunters have the ability to regain HPs out of combat due to their training, or the are so experienced in battling evil that they are infused with life after being victorious.
Any random player?
That feature does not exist in the game. Read what i explained about it above - again. So i dont have to repeat myself - again.
That would be consistent with the game world, would add to the atmosphere, would add to the feeling of being a mighty band of warriors, at least to some people.
It would only be a personal bullshit excuse without any relevance or connection to the game as it is.
You are free to fantasize whatever you wish but that doesnt make it a part of the game. In reality.
And would eliminate an annoyance without breaking the internal rules or logic of the game.
It would eh? Because you declared it?
Its is not just clicking once, you have to click a few times, for every member. And then wait on the cooldown to heal again. Its just waiting, its not gameplay.
No, you click once, cast the spell, maybe eat something and thats it. In rare cases when your character is hurt a lot you may cast the healing spell twice. Big deal. while waiting for cooldown to expire you move or do something else. Which you can, because you are not in combat anymore so you do other things.
You will "wait" not doing anything only if you are completely stupid.
btw ...Healing is not gameplay... ?
Non combat time in the game is not gameplay, eh?
Or is it that whatever you drones dont like personally is not gameplay?
What you neglect to say, in your rant against modern rpgs (which i can understand in parts) is, that due to changes like that, more and more people play those fantastic games nowadays then have back then. They are accessible to people who have never thought of playing rpgs before.
You are all welcome to them. Just go back to bethpizdenimax, EAaware and other such lowest common denominator products companies and play those games... oh right, you cant because you played all of them once, eh?
How about not trying to distort this one into the same crap food made specifically for you in a shopping factory?
And that is not a bad thing, in my book atleast. It may suck for elitist rpg players who think their rpgs have to be their way and no other, but for the vast majority of people thats a good thing. If we all deny progress, we would still live in caves and hunt our food ourselves, since you know, supermarkets are convenient.
Right, right... as opposed to you drones demanding that all rpgs become mass market turds that you like, that heal characters instead of you, that point you where to go and what to do, that dont "close any content" from you, that make your egoes feel and think instead of you. While they rot what little brain and common sense you had.
Have a happy cancer in your supermarket.
My butt atleast does not hurt due to that.
Forgot to say, how is respecing not coherent with the game world?
If there is a demon who, with magic, can make you better at certain areas, how does that not fit in a magical universe?
Because whatever laughable idea of such bad excuses that comes out of your head has nothing to do with internal world logic of this game.
Because that feature exists only for you, not for anyone else in the game world. Because it is added to the game for your convenience only - so you wouldnt need to maybe play it a few times.
Because saying "magical universe so anything goes" is the ultimate retardation and nonsense and another proof you are not capable of understanding simplest logic.
Only somewhat fortunately, Larian studios are better then what youre use to so they didnt make it that easy or simple.
If you really want to know.