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So what's the jam? (part IV) #45448
24/03/03 01:13 PM
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The Middle Of Nowhere
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What's the deal with Tingalf, his suppliers, his cache and the wares of the broken wheel merchant. Where is Tingalfs cave? Where are the clues about Wares?


If you are in a sticky situation then the best tactic is to get out of it.
Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45449
24/03/03 01:35 PM
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I had to write the whole sequence, these 2 quests are busted easily


1. Get black market quest from Trevor/merchant guildmaster/Verdistis and missing wagon quest from Marcus/merchant/Ars

conversation with Trevor to get the quest

2. Find wagon, talk with Luther the wagoner and report to Marcus

3. Return with wheel, look for clues first following a blood trail then a trail of coins (find corpses, cave, fight, TAKE letter)

the loot cave, after you've found the burning wagon, look here

4. Report which clues(with letter) you found to Marcus - get a clue to talk with Tingalf.

5. Tingalf says in a speech option : new lair under my feet

6. Go into the Ars sewers (NE corner), fight, TAKE letter (and the nifty 2-hander Singing Blade)from the corpse

Ars sewers, look into the NE corner

7. Go back to Lt. Robin/Ars and report, 2 speech options, use both

Ars Magicana, Nr. one is Robin, look here

Robin's speech options, look here


8. Report to Marcus and later on to Trevor.

Final report to Trevor


Kiya

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Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45450
16/05/03 08:24 AM
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I just finished up this quest, or so I thot, coz I still have one Tingalf quest entry...

I got the two letters, claimed my reward from marcus and informed robin of pedro as well as tingalf. He promptly arrested tingalf.

Problem is, now trevor of the merchant's guild doesn't want to acknowledge that I completed this quest. No bit about the dinner reward from trevor. Did I miss something?

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45451
17/05/03 02:44 AM
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Anyone? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45452
17/05/03 01:32 PM
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I just finished up this quest, or so I thot, coz I still have one Tingalf quest entry...

I got the two letters, claimed my reward from marcus and informed robin of pedro as well as tingalf. He promptly arrested tingalf.

Problem is, now trevor of the merchant's guild doesn't want to acknowledge that I completed this quest. No bit about the dinner reward from trevor. Did I miss something?


You must follow the above sequence from Kiya EXACTLY AS SHE POSTED IT. It appears you did a part of the quest out of sequence. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

But dont worry about it. It's not a big deal. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45453
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I just finished up this quest, or so I thot, coz I still have one Tingalf quest entry...

I got the two letters, claimed my reward from marcus and informed robin of pedro as well as tingalf. He promptly arrested tingalf.

Problem is, now trevor of the merchant's guild doesn't want to acknowledge that I completed this quest. No bit about the dinner reward from trevor. Did I miss something?


You must follow the above sequence from Kiya EXACTLY AS SHE POSTED IT. It appears you did a part of the quest out of sequence. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

But dont worry about it. It's not a big deal. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


I exposed Tingalf without ever having talked to Trevor, but when I went to Verdistis and talked to Trevor I had the merchant conversation option, and I got credit for the exposing the merchant quest just by talking to Trevor.

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45454
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Yes, Tanakar, this variation is possible, too and saves you a trip back to Robin if you used both speech options.
I wrote the other variation for those, who visited Verdistis first instead of exploring Rivertown thoroughly <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />, so they all see the connections betweene the MTT-quest.
Kiya

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45455
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The way I did it though leaves one unfinished quest in my book (Riverton something), which resulted from finding the letter in the cave. I had gone straight into the sewers after talking to Marcus and killed Pedro then, before I even knew the other cave existed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45456
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Yes, that's right: cave letter triggers clue to talk with Tingalf, after you have reported to Marcus. Tingalf triggers sewers.

And if you visit the cave too early, before delivering the wheel to the burning wagon: cave is without letter, even though you meet the assassins.
Many variations to break the quest sequence.
Kiya

Want some more? I hate this MTT-quest sequence <grumbling>

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45457
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I'm all confused now, huh, dang. I'll just forget about it and loose the xp, its not THAT mutch, I hope (grumbling). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />



Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45458
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8. Report to Marcus and later on to Trevor.


And what if I spoke to Trevor right after Robin? (stupid, stupid... [Linked Image] ) I forgot to talk to Marcus prior to Trevor. Marcus' attitude is now already "Admiring", but my quest "Find clues about wares" isn't solved.

Anything to do, except reloading savegame? (I would really appreciate another clue, because after that I solved 4 other quests).

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45459
13/10/03 10:00 PM
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I don't think it matters if you talk to Trevor before Marcus (if it does, that would be a bug). Did you have Tingalf arrested, and get a reward from both Trevor and Marcus? If so, I would just ignore the quest log entry.

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45460
14/10/03 01:32 AM
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This thread needs to stay stuck at the top.

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45461
14/10/03 02:04 AM
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Or rather, added to the section of Info, Tutorials, Spoilers...

What a helpful section. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> If only everyone checked there first.

Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45462
14/10/03 02:44 AM
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yep, I don't know why I did this



Re: So what's the jam? (part IV) #45463
14/10/03 05:25 AM
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Did you have Tingalf arrested, and get a reward from both Trevor and Marcus?


I did. I understand this means that nothing can be done with the quest entry. Well, OK. I think I can stand some mess in the quest log <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> Although I like it neat.


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