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janggut #123362 28/10/03 03:29 PM
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yeah, i promised myself i wouldn't buy a car until i could afford a hybrid, but now i may not be able to keep that promise. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> i need a car if i want the type of job i want.


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and why type is it?
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something environmental/nature related. like at a nature center or something. i'd even take the zoo. but although i could drive to these places in under 1/2 an hour, the bus takes usually around 2-3 hours to get any of these places. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" /> my city's public transportation sucks [nocando].


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I'll drive you there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I have had my license for 7 years had a car for 4...
Now that i walk everywhere over here (and lost 10 lbs in the doing) i wonder if it is worth it...mind you...when it is -30 outside...so you want to walk?????

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walking is great, but there definitely times when a car would be appreciated! winter is cold.


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There's a really cool program in San Francisco called City Car Share that's sort of a compromise between individual car usage and public transportation.
You pay a monthly fee, and reserve one of the fleet cars online whenever you want. When you're done, you just park in one of their designated spots. You don't even pay for gas.

It's a good idea for us because unlike the rest of the planet, we're in deep denial about environmental damage (actually, we know there's a problem, but greed gets in the way of doing anything about it) and addicted to our personal mobility.

Does that kind of thing exist elsewhere? Europe's transportation system is so much better than ours that it's probably redundant there, but I'm just curious.


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faile, i think u should get a hovercraft. all terrain for the environmental pirate.

what about a motorcycle? not the big bad harley but something smaller & more agile like what we have in malaysia; 90-110cc engines which is just nice.

or maybe we should just start activating those teleporter stones .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />



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Truth (or may I call you Ugly? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ): There are car sharing agencies around here, too. But it isn't used that much. Germany is (unfortunately) the nation of automobiles, and especially Stuttgart, with Mercedes and Porsche being here. So way too many people use their own cars, and the other ones use the public transportation system.
I've been owning a drivers license for over four years, but I never needed a car. Riding my bike 4km to University and 4km back keeps me healthy. I always get angry at those who use their car for short distances.


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I want to thank you all people. I got my licence 2 years ago, bought a car and never drove it. I still use my feet or taxi or public transportation which is really awful here in Greece. But I still can´t drive that car. I am glad I am not the only one. Only in winter I feel that I should get in the car, and drive all the way to work. I hate cold. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> But I can`t do this... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />


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lucretia: You live in greece?
Cool, I have travveled all over greece last vacation <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
It was great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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lucretia: You live in greece?
Cool, I have travveled all over greece last vacation <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
It was great <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Really? I am glad you liked it. Next time you came by just drope me a pm. I will show you some special places in Athens <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


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Only in winter I feel that I should get in the car, and drive all the way to work. I hate cold. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> But I can`t do this... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />


Cold? In Greece? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Truth (or may I call you Ugly? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> ):


Oh sure, people call me ugly all the time and they don't even know my nick.

A couple years ago I was in Munich "for work" and the train system was amazing. It didn't seem necessary to have a car there, which was cool.

I remember all the Mercedes, and it was strange because those things seen as elite cars here, thanks to all that evil marketing voodoo we're bombarded with every day. But even the police cars were Mercedes there. They're as common as Fords here.

Too bad the beer sucked. Germans really need to figure out how to make good beer. And chocolate, too. Yuck.

Do I really need to add a smiley to that?


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Too bad the beer sucked. Germans really need to figure out how to make good beer.

Well, you should try real German beer instead of the Bavarian crap they call beer there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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why does german beer suck monkey balls? i thought beer is invented by a german genius out of necessity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> that's why they have oktoberfest.



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Only in winter I feel that I should get in the car, and drive all the way to work. I hate cold. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> But I can`t do this... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />


Cold? In Greece? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


Yeap!!! In summer we have 40oC. So in winter when the temparature falls to 0oC we think that we moved to North Pole... We even get cold when the temperature is about 20-25 oC... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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i will <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
I have been in athens too for a couple of days, visited the acropolis and such <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
It was really nice, but hot though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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I have been in athens too for a couple of days, visited the acropolis and such <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
It was really nice, but hot though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />



Ahh hot weather.... My fav!!

In such temperatures, we don´t go to Acropolis <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> We all go to sea <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" />

And we stay there all day <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />


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"in winter when the temparature falls to 0oC we think that we moved to North Pole"

So I guess you've never walked up a snow drift onto the roof of a house?
If I ever visit Greece, it would have to be during the winter, and people would look at me funny for walking around with a t-shirt on. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
-40 oC is pretty cold; really cold is when spit freezes before it hits the ground. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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