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kiya #151375 12/01/04 08:00 PM
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5.Why is a "life" (spending time on the internet) not a "life" - and if it is not a "life", what is it then?



A life on the internet is a life . You still have to breath and to eat and to sleep when you're spending all your time on the internet so you're still alive wich means that you have a life no ? It is just another way of being alive and I can understand that some people prefer the savety of the internet than our outdoor world . I would be concerned if I had friend who'd only a life on the internet and I gess I would advice him to get a life but more because I would be afraid to loose his as friend because he is closed up from the outdoor world (and me) then meaning it in a negative way . On the other had If I had an internet friend who changed his lifestyle and didn't spend much time online anymore I would advice him to get his 'internetlife' again because I didn't want to miss him either .

For all other people I wouldn't have any advice because it wouldn't touch me a lot if they have a 'real' life or an 'Internet' life so I let them life their lives likes they feel most comfortable with . And because my own way of living isn't perfect I am not able to tell someone what a perfect life is . (I think that nobody can say what a 'perfect'life would be )


Kej >> You really should get a life then *gg* If you're even talking about good old Freud . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

Ps : This is not an attack but an advice from a freaky friend <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Can a Bitch also be male or is a Bitch always female ?




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Can a Bitch also be male or is a Bitch always female ?


only if the male is less than a male and has no life! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Can a Bitch also be male or is a Bitch always female ?

Bitch is a female dog ("teef", in het Nederlands). Of course, people rarely think of the actual meaning when they use that word.
The male version is, strangely not "you husband of a bitch!" but "You son of a bitch!" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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Kej >> You really should get a life then *gg* If you're even talking about good old Freud . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

Ps : This is not an attack but an advice from a freaky friend <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />


I know. And you know what I know <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Can a Bitch also be male or is a Bitch always female ?
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> It works for both now. It can also be an affectionate term (be very careful how you say it though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />)
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You know even if you are frustrated with yourself and you say "Self - get a life!" It's an attack of sorts - you're actually trying to shake yourself up just a wee bit.

My 2 cents worth - anytime you let yourself become obsessed over anything so much that you can only eat, sleep, think about, do that thing (almost exclusively) then you need to be concerned about your mental health and well being. We all need balance in our lives. Physically we need sun & exercise, emotionally we need people - that means touching and hugging and being there, intellectually we need stimulus. But the healthiest life is balanced.

Everyone has a different idea on what "getting a life" means: if you love music then if you tell someone to "get a life" you mean they need more music in their lives; If you're a dancer - more dancing; if you're a gardener or a farmer (because you want to be) it's having your hands in soil and watching things grow; an athlete .....

Of course, if someone is obsessed with these things we're back to square one - They need to "get a life"! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Hey!! DQ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> how the heck are you? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />

i had a life once......but i didn't like it .....

so i changed it and lost it.......
and now......
i'm looking for a new life! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

half my life is here and the other half is where?


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"It's an attack of sorts"
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... or a challenge (could be either destructive or constructive), or an internal pondering and weighing of priorities...

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Challenge is a much friendlier word than attact <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Jurak - I'm searching for a new life again too and still trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up. Haven't got a clue! And you?


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Woweee! Just came back and saw all your responses - I'm totally delighted <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/party.gif" alt="" /> - sooo much to read and think about. Thank you all very very much for sharing your thoughts and opinions.

@Luc: Nope, don't you dare to write that your post was crap => it's not <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" /> I appreciate it very much that you went through all that trouble and wrote such an eloquent post.

I will need a few days to sort everything out in my head - and this time I might understand the sense of this sentence, be it an attack, a teaser or out of concern - because I always considered these words to be important, Why? Because they come so very very often <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> - I have read them so very often.

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glad we could be of help <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Did all we could do <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />


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Hm, I'm also kind of impressed by all these replies ... such a huge variety of answers ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Back to topic : From time to time, my body or mind or whatever tells me "that's enough !" and it drives me to go out. I mean, it's like as if my body or mind said to me : "Go, get a life !" in the meanong "go, get out into Nature ! Do a walk ! get into (more or less) physical contact with others !".


Then, I just must obey. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />


That's how I try to keep balance : my "inner voice" "rings" when it's time to go out again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> (Buying food and some other things, walking through woods ... such things. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )




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i love toffee....it gets in my teeth! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
thx! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


No clue......what i'm a gonna do
but i'm not blue <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />
cuz i got all of you! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

but i too....
enjoyed reading this interesting
out of nowhere
to popular thread! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

actually i DO have a little life left,
and i'm going back to it right now...
...thx to Kiya and the map of ionas dungeon... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


..c-ya in a while! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

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Get a wife!!

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Get a wife!!

Is that the alternative to "Get a life"? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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Nah, Im just in a marrying mood <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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I will call you "Squishy", and you will be my squishy! OW! BAD SQUISHY! - Dory, Finding Nemo
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I think the term Get a Life refers to.

Go do something else, unlike me, i'm boring, you should go do something fun.


or as sarcastic, as in all someone does is one thing, and they should do something new.



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Here I am, a little late, with what I think of the phrase.

It's generally said to someone who seems to be focused too much on one thing, hobby, person, etc.. The person saying "get a life" usually means it with a bit of disdain or possibly concern, and probably feels like the person isn't really living if they're limited to one particular thing and not out experiencing new and different things.
Suffering from depression, it's something I've heard a lot, from people who probably meant well, but it generally does no good.

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Ah, sorted everything out and tried to put it into a short sentence by searching my inner memory boxes:

"Get a life"-translation =>

[color:"yellow"]Be as I want you to be, be not yourself
Fill my needs not yours[/color]

[color:"orange"] Edit: Am I on the right track? [/color]
These are sentences used in psychology, showing a generalised view of how people deal with each other when they are not clear to oneself/others about needs, wishes and appellations. Yes, BeeGee, I think it's passive aggressive - Rince, it's "normative" (yeah, a typical killer word) - even if meant in concern. And the "power, infliction" of this sentence lies indeed more in the nonverbal sector than in the sentence itself.

I just need one tiny puzzle piece => where does this sentence come from? Is it an everyday term in English/American language and was mainly adapted for the internet world or was it "created" specially for this world?

Again, thanks to all - and keep on rolling in with your views <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
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Kiya thnx for your words... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

And for the toffees <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


You can have my absence of faith
you can have my everything...

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1.Well, what is this "life I/you/others should get"?
2.What does it involve?
3.What does it exclude?
4.What is your personal definition of a "life to get"?
5.Why is a "life" (spending time on the internet) not a "life" - and if it is not a "life", what is it then?

1. life to me is a gift from my creator. life that i & everyone should have is to be happy & meaningful & with purpose. ok ok ok, that's very vague but as we grow older we learn more about ourselves & therefore our needs & goals & purpose. to live is the answer to the question: what is life? go figure that one out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

2. physically it means being alive (breath, grow, multiply, decay, die). mentally thoughts & manners & reasonings get deeper therefore expansion of the mind & its capabilities. emotionally growth & empathy & sensitivity & response. spiritually connecting & direction & purpose & drive.

3. experience & choice will determine the exclusions.

4. 'live fully' is another term for it? be all that u can be, finding my true purpose (thoughts & acts) & fulfilling it. therefore becoming one's true self. like a knife truly acting as one therefore becoming a true knife in design, purpose & implementation.

5. life is up to each person's perception & ideals. so definitely 'internet' life is always perceived as imperfect & therefore anyone who lives that may get such words in their faces; get a life. why imperfect? no real interaction, meaning no voice, no 'mano a mano' (man to man, face to face), it really lacks the depth & intimacy that real life interaction can provide. now that is true, at least to me. but it doesn't mean there is no life. life is lived for as long as u know that u are alive. life i guess is more of being aware of being who u are & living it, with it, change it, make it.

this discussion can go on & on & on .... . it all comes down to each person's perception i guess. & the word 'life' is too crude & general for something so deep & wide as the universe. so who's to say that life's limited to small electrical impulses? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />



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Regarding origins of the phrase, here are some theories (all cribbed from the internet, of course <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> ) :

What is the origin of "get a life"?
(Etymology)

...getting a life might have originally had something to do with getting another life as in the video games when your little guys got knocked off. I used to hear kids asking how many lives the other guy had left, etc. I'll 'get a life' if I ... So the expression or words 'get a life' could have fist appeared, in the 80's, but not quite with its present connotations.

It may next (or concurrently) have begun to be used by computer geeks who would spend hours on end at their terminals, and their PC became their life. They would be told kiddingly, or not so kiddingly, by friends, family, and other hackers to 'get a life.' No definite documentation or dates for this, however.

The first big-time use of the word in the media was in a 1987 Saturday Night Live skit in which William Shatner, Captain Kirk of Star Trek, does a parody on Trekkie fans. In the sketch, he is the guest of honor at a Star Trek convention. He is asked by fanatical fans wearing pointy ears, several trivia questions concerning the exact combinations of safes he had opened on various episodes (e.g. what was the combination to the safe in episode #38?). He tells these people at the end of the skit to 'move out of your mothers basement' and GET A LIFE...

From the American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms


get a life

Acquire some interests or relationships of one's own. For example, Stop sitting around and complaining-get a life. [Slang; late 1900s]

From the Jargon Dictionary: Get a life! imperitive. Hacker-standard way of suggesting that the person to whom it is directed has succumbed to terminal geekdom (see computer geek). Often heard on Usenet, esp. as a way of suggesting that the target is taking some obscure issue of theology too seriously. This exhortation was popularized by William Shatner on a 1987 "Saturday Night Live" episode in a speech that ended "Get a life!", but some respondents believe it to have been in use before then. It was certainly in wide use among hackers for years before achieving mainstream currency via the sitcom "Get A Life" in 1990.

(extracts from the "Wordwizard" site)

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