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Has the Quickdraw Talent been removed?

Playing on the PS4 and for some reason I am trying to give my Ranger the Quickdraw Talent. Its simply not there.

I checked the Change List but couldn't find anything about it being removed.

Can somebody help me out with information?

Thx in advance!

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Just wanted to say - I don't know what change did this, but the performance of EE is spectacular compared to the previous versions. So Kudo's on which ever or group of programmers were able to do that black magic programming.

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Originally Posted by CRSone
Has the Quickdraw Talent been removed?

Looks like it has been removed, yes.


I quickly compared the talents to see what else wasn't mentioned. Here's a full list, if I didn't miss anything:

New talents
+ Avoid Opportunists, requires Expert Marksman 1
+ Hyperopia, requires Expert Marksman 2 (currently sort of broken with Perception)
+ Magician, requires Wand 1
+ Parry Master
+ Pinpoint
+ Slingshot, requires Man-at-Arms 1

Changed Talents
o Back-Stabber no longer has a requirement (was Scoundrel 1)
o Comeback Kid now incompatible with Leech
o Demon now requires Pyrokinetic 4 (was 5) and is incompatible with Ice King
o Escapist no longer incompatible with Courageous
o Glass Cannon now incompatible with Lone Wolf
o Ice King now requires Hydrosophist 4 (was 5) and is incompatible with Demon
o Leech now incompatible with Comeback Kid
o Lone Wolf now incompatible with Glass Cannon
o Weather the Storm renamed to Iron Hide
o Sidestep no longer has a requirement (was: Expert Marksman 2)

Removed Talents
- Quickdraw (required Expert Marksman 5)

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Originally Posted by Arhu

Changed Talents
o Back-Stabber no longer has a requirement (was Scoundrel 1)
o Comeback Kid now incompatible with Leech
o Demon now requires Pyrokinetic 4 (was 5) and is incompatible with Ice King
o Escapist no longer incompatible with Courageous
o Glass Cannon now incompatible with Lone Wolf
o Ice King now requires Hydrosophist 4 (was 5) and is incompatible with Demon
o Leech now incompatible with Comeback Kid
o Lone Wolf now incompatible with Glass Cannon
o Weather the Storm renamed to Iron Hide
o Sidestep no longer has a requirement (was: Expert Marksman 2)

Is 'Bully' talent changed in EE?
New description says that it's applicable to knocked down enemies, but old one - 'slowed, crippled or knocked down':
New: '"Bully" Boosts non-magical attacks against opponents that are knocked down by 50%.'
vs.
Old: '"Bully" Gives you 50% extra damage against opponents that are slowed, crippled or knocked down. Only works with melee or ranged weapons; not with spells.'

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Yes Bully is changed.

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Has any of the crafting recipes from the old one been changed?
The reason I ask is because crafting a spear using a branch and a dagger doesn't work, it give arrow shafts instead, crafting of static cloud arrowheads using a cup of water and a stun arrowhead, it doesn't work.

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Sure it was a dagger and not a knife you used crafting the spear? I crafted a spear with a dagger twice and had no problems. A knife and branch gives arrow shafts.

The gold dagger and gold butter/table knife have the same icon and can easily be mistaken for each other.

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Originally Posted by Skeptical_Bunny
Has any of the crafting recipes from the old one been changed?


I think so. I tried to make a +CON belt, which is supposed to be Magic Skull + Rope, but that produced a +INT belt instead. I still don't know a recipe to make a +CON belt.

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Originally Posted by rnarchlord
Sure it was a dagger and not a knife you used crafting the spear? I crafted a spear with a dagger twice and had no problems. A knife and branch gives arrow shafts.

The gold dagger and gold butter/table knife have the same icon and can easily be mistaken for each other.

I'm sure it was a dagger, because I just made it into a dagger from a paper knife.
One thing I never liked about the spear crafting is that you still have the dagger after crafting the spear. I would actually like to see it so that you lose the dagger when you make the spear, because you are basically mounting the dagger on the end of a pole/stick. And to take that a little further.. If you use a dagger with water damage and the ability to chill the enemy, then the spear you craft from that would have the same properties, but that would require CL 5.

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[quote=Stabbey]Yes Bully is changed.[/quote]

Is it? It isn't listen on changelist and on your characters dmg it still reads Knocked Down, Slowed or Crippled, I haven't tested it but if you can provide a clear answer that helps. Also maybe then fix that tooltip as well might report as a bug if it isn't supposed to.

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[quote]- New item for creating inert wand
- Added crafting combinations to create wands[/quote]

Is this saying we can craft inert wands? If so, how? I've spent hours trying various combinations to no avail.

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pinpoint requires scoundrel 1.

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Was the second half of the game changed a lot? I felt it was weak when I played it last year. Thanks.

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There has been a lot of additions to the second half.

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heys guys, did todays pc update only fix stability issues or did they change more?
do you know it they fixed the random crashes? is there a list somewhere which "stability issues" have been fixed?

also, does anyone know if they have more patches in the works for the enhanced edition, and if so what will be changed in the future?

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hi,
can anyone tell me if there is any possibility of crafting Orc Horns?
it used to crushed for bonedust but it does not work for me in EE

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Hello. Prompt, in the Enhanced Edition in the hall of secrets from the traders still have books on the skills and abilities? The two were on sale, there were new when picked level. Yesterday reached there, in general they are not for sale.
They canceled the patch?
I would be grateful for your help.

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The patch for PS4 has been released, but not for Xbox One yet.
The Teller of Secrets should still have the books for sale (once; they do not restock if you buy them).
The patch will prevent the problem of the books possibly disappearing if you do not buy them when you first trade with the Teller of Secrets, and then level up. Unfortunately, it can not fix this in saves where it has already occurred.

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PS4 version issue -- I bought all of the secrets from the teller of secrets and read them all but none of the secrets appeared my map... in fact all my waypoints icons are gone too. :-(

Is there someway to fix/reset the map?

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Raze, Forktong and Party: Could we have some links to patch 1.01 to 1.04 Changelist for enhanced edition in this thread? It would help seasoned gamers to plan their characters around core stats and abilities. Some guides/wikis online reference the barebones numbers from abilities from the original edition, but many guides do not have complete numbers yet for the enhanced edition.

Knowing the Changelist above and any recent patches in 2016 would help to check and see if the old character guides still apply or if some aspects have been changed by the master Changelist and recent EE patches.

For example, Scoundrel balance issues were carefully addressed, but I saw that crippling blow was moved from Adept to Novice at some point. Understand you guys are working hard. Not a huge thing. Just helpful to know in advance if one feat stacks with another ability and so forth (backstab + bully + guerilla = instant crit x 1.5 x 1.5? Hmmm...better check the Changelists and the forums for a few minutes, wait, did I just get punched out of sneak midcombat for no reason? Hmmm...more research required...)

In any event, I haven't had this much fun since I first picked up Fallout 1 15+ years ago. Just amazing stuff you guys!

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