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Hello ladies and gents
i was wondering if the sneaking + guerilla skill is viable in combat and if so how can be done.

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Let say you are in the back of the enemy already :
3-4 ap to turn invisible (don't remember how much), THEN you can use backstab +40%guerilla.
You did in total 140% of your damages, that's crazy good.

Meanwhile, an other rogue, already in the back of the enemy too, will have enough AP to attack 2-3 times. For 200% and 300% damages (because he attacked multiple times)

Sneaking is weak in combat (and outside), guerilla is not worth the pain and the ap. Just get poly and turn invisible for only 2ap.

Or build a 2h barbarian of doom and destroy the concept of sneaking.

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[quote=CollaSama]Let say you are in the back of the enemy already :
3-4 ap to turn invisible (don't remember how much), THEN you can use backstab +40%guerilla.
You did in total 140% of your damages, that's crazy good.

Meanwhile, an other rogue, already in the back of the enemy too, will have enough AP to attack 2-3 times. For 200% and 300% damages (because he attacked multiple times)

Sneaking is weak in combat (and outside), guerilla is not worth the pain and the ap. Just get poly and turn invisible for only 2ap.

Or build a 2h barbarian of doom and destroy the concept of sneaking. [/quote]

This is not quite correct.
Sneaking in combat is much better than invis if you have mobility like flight.
If there is a lot of high ground like in the Act 1 Alexandar fight you can just keep flying around and sneak while your invis is on cd (which is quite long with 6 turns).
This might not be practical for attacking out of stealth because sneaking costs 4 AP and flying 1 ap (you still can use it with Flesh Sacrifice and Adrenaline) but it can get you out of very sticky situations and in the ideal case you combine it with invis anyway and heal up your phys and magic armour on the side so you are fit to fight full turns in between.

Ofc as you say it's not worth wasting a talent on this and if you can outdamage the enemies it is better than sneaking.

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The short answer is that no, Sneaking is not viable in combat. If you NEED to wait 6 turns for your Rogue's cooldown to end, you're probably doing something wrong with your Rogue's build. Those 6 turns you are waiting out Invisibility, you are contributing nothing.

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Probably talking about fighting solo. If they don't see you, enemies do shite aswell?

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Originally Posted by Kalrakh
Probably talking about fighting solo. If they don't see you, enemies do shite aswell?


That has been a problem since EA, invisibility while solo still stuns the entire map, enemies wont even search you.


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Originally Posted by Cyka
That has been a problem since EA, invisibility while solo still stuns the entire map, enemies wont even search you.



Obviously the only solution is that if a player enters Stealth, the game should immediately exit and uninstall itself.

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Originally Posted by Stabbey
Originally Posted by Cyka
That has been a problem since EA, invisibility while solo still stuns the entire map, enemies wont even search you.



Obviously the only solution is that if a player enters Stealth, the game should immediately exit and uninstall itself.


i think we can at least do some middle grounds here if the game advertise intelligent AI design, i mean freaking use a rain spell in the immediate area you were standing for gods sake.

It is illogical that if you are invisible = enemies stunned.

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