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This is going to be a bit long, but bear with me please.

So after finishing Act 3, I decided to check the internet to ensure that I hadn't missed anything, and apparently you're given an opportunity to join the voidwoken and become sworn to the God-king. In my first try, I killed both Alexander, the Shadow Prince, the Mother Tree, AND the Sallow Man, after he turned on me. When I went to the voidwoken, I (Sebille) could only convince Fane NOT to join - I could not tell him to join, nor was I given an option to join myself. That sucks, because I'd actually really like to join as my character, but can't for the life of me figure out why I'm unable.

I haven't found any actual definitive discussions anywhere online as to what is required to become sworn - I've heard many varying things; it's not even clear to me whether it's the Sallow Man or the Voidwoken in the academy that actually give you the offer. Regardless, neither asked me, so, knowing I must be missing something, I went back for a second go at the Nameless Isle, trying various things I read online.

This time around, I killed the Shadowprince, the Mother Tree, and Alexander (did not speak to his spirit.) I made sure to use the black mirror, was given directions to the cave, and brought the severed head there. What followed was varied:

If I completed the quest as my party leader, I was told by the narrator that "You know that he [Sallow] has something that you seek. Something important." Immediately after, without exiting the dialogue, he: asks me if I am sworn, tells me to swear to the God-king, and says he'll give me the key to the academy/mountain in exchange. However, I'm not actually given the option to join him - I can only either kill him there, or ask him how to become sworn, resulting in him trying to kill me (saying I have to be dead to be sworn?) Thus, if I complete the quest as my leader, Sebille, killng Sallow is unavoidable.

Since I read that he must be alive when I visit the voidwoken, I couldn't let that happen. So I tried to complete the quest as someone other than Sebille. In this case, in the final line of dialogue with Sallow, the narrator says "you know that he [Sallow] has something that you seek, but will only share them with the person who leads your party", and the conversation/quest ends there. Now, if, as an undead character, I speak to him again, he says "Serve the God-King. Reap his reward." If I speak to him with Sebille, or any living character, I am forced through the same dialogue tree mentioned above to fight him.

No matter what, in the journal, under the now 'Closed' quest "The Sallow Man", it says in the final entry: "It seems he has something we need, something important . . . but he won't fulfill his end of the deal just yet . . ."

This suggests that, if you can indeed become sworn through the Sallow Man (and I've not seen any actual evidence other than hearsay that you can), he will only give you this proposal if your PARTY LEADER is undead. Can anyone confirm or deny this? lol. Either way, can someone with an undead party leader tell me what it is that you can get from him, if not entry into the covenant?

Point being, the Sallow Man was a dead end. Next I thought to see whether I could get the voidwoken to give me the proposal instead. Since I could not kill the Sallow Man to get the conductor, I took the alternative passage to the Academy (some people were saying that this was necessary to receive the offer, anyway.)

Either way, even with the Sallow man still alive, the voidwoken would not ask me to join. It simply asks Fane, and goes nowhere with any other character (even if they are undead - I tried.)

I am unsure if this is related, but there also seems to be a bug with Sallow's reward - after accepting one of the tag changes, nothing happens. The dialogue simply ends, and there is no change to my tags. I saw in Let's Plays that he said some stuff after.

I'm pretty sure you can only become sworn to the God-King if you main as Fane. The Voidwoken at the entrance to the academy offers you this choice. You may want to not dig deeper into this, so you don't get spoiled.

In my case I was playing custom character, female human undead.
At academy I had an option to become sworn.
But the game is funny - sometimes they called me Fane (due undead), sometimes Lohse (due human female)

I pretty sure also that is the *only* requirement as I (Fane) missed out almost all of nameless isle by mistake.

Thanks for your help everyone!

[quote=Makt] I'm pretty sure you can only become sworn to the God-King if you main as Fane. The Voidwoken at the entrance to the academy offers you this choice. You may want to not dig deeper into this, so you don't get spoiled. [/quote]

I don't think that's the case, since many people online have reported doing it with their other undead characters. However, it does seem to be the case that everyone who was sworn had an undead character as their party leader, which I think is the requirement... if that's the case, then I'm really, really dissapointed with Larian here. I really hope that that isn't true.

The whole quest, it's ending, and all the dialogue leading up to it heavily imply that the character will have to make a choice between the Void and the Gods. Why just dangle the potential there as a tease? Don't tell me that "[Sallow] has something I seek" or that "he won't fulfill his end of the deal just yet" if he won't ever, and can't ever, fulfill it. It seems beyond stupid to lock such a critical player choice with such vast consequences behind a single race, especially all the while implying that the player is just missing something necessary. This isn't a decision unique to Fane or the undead where it realistically makes sense to limit it to them; its an option that, logically speaking and given the way the story is structured, should be open to everyone.

Think the only requirement is to not have Fane in your party when entering the academy as he is then given the option instead of you.
My elf killed just about everyone prior to entering the academy, and after a few reloads i decided to leave Fane outside on account of having no persuasion whereupon i was given the option to join.

So you CAN become sworn even if you're not undead then..?

I was really optimistic that that would work, but I had no luck... I tried speaking to the voidwoken with Fane completely outside of my party, then I tried with him in the academy but at a distance from my party so not involved in the conversation. Either way I didn't get anything... :/


The conversation always has only one outcome no matter what I do. I can (1)'tell it the world doesnt belong to the void', and (2) 'ask why it calls me a thief'. (2) leads to nothing. No matter how I respond to its explanation of (1), even if I say I'm totally convinced, I get another dialogue branch where I basically can only tell it the void can never return, then next that I had nothing to do with its betrayal. The dialogue just ends after that. There's no point where I can even change the course of the conversation, so it can't be that I'm picking the wrong options. I can only assume my game is either bugged or there is something else I've not done right.

Guess there is more to it then
While i did not have the villain tag i did several evil things, like accepting the demonic bargain on bloodmoon isle before killing the advocate and i also killied all the magisters in driftwood by stealing/getting caught.
So, perhaps you are just not evil enough?

Oh. That's pretty stupid of me. I seem to have earned the hero tag somehow and didn't even realize it - I don't know why, I honestly wasn't trying to be a nice person lol. I imagine its probably too late by A3 to lose the hero tag or gain the villain tag?

EDIT: After doing some cursory reading online, it seems you can get the villain tag by just absorbing a bunch of souls. Can anyone confirm?

Not sure if it's random souls, but I did get the villain tag several times after absorbing 2-3 souls yes. Not sure if specific named souls trigger it or something.

Thanks! I'll give it a try then report back when I can (later tonight.) It's probably worth noting though that, like Yun, I have already done a bunch of 'evil' things, even though I don't have the tag, so I'm still somewhat doubtful that that's what I'm missing.

I never got the option to join the voidwoken either. No idea what triggers it.

Edit: I figured it was because I helped Alexandar and offed the Sallow man. but that is apparently not the trigger?

You'd think so, right? I mean, intuitively I would think that whether you sided with Alexander or the Sallow Man would be THE deciding factor. But because of all the failed attempts I've detailed above, I'm forced to assume that it must be something else.

So I tried consuming pretty much every single soul available on the Nameless Isle and still couldn't get the villain tag. If that is what's required, I have no way of actually checking at this point (other than maybe going back an act, but I don't intend on doing that tbh.)

I do wish the game would be a bit more straightforward sometimes. I just want to be sworn >.<

Consuming the innocent souls will give you the villain tag.
About sworn to god king. It's pretty much only Fane or possibly undead. It's origin choice.