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You've made the incorrect assumption that a lot of people would be enthusiastic at answering a survey with 200+ questions which you also have to log in through Google to answer. It's simply a lot of work, especially since not everyone is going to be using all 200 skills in one run. I'm surprised you got 6.
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This is a really awesome idea. I love this game, and I love getting others opinions on it... but.... it's way too long. Maybe just have a list of all the skills for each class and have each person pick their top 3. Then compile a list of those 3 in each respective category and have each skill rated on a scale of 1-5 or whatever parameters you want.
And I think some skills should have a rating option of "bugged/ not working as intended" I've ran across a few skills like this. cryogenic stasis for one..
"Keep distant, My own demons still haunt me too closely. I cannot also bear the burden of yours."
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Joined: Sep 2017
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are people rating thunderstorm higher than chain lightning? that's surprising
i actually just auto-win fights with thunderstorm it's wild
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You've made the incorrect assumption that a lot of people would be enthusiastic at answering a survey with 200+ questions which you also have to log in through Google to answer. It's simply a lot of work, especially since not everyone is going to be using all 200 skills in one run. I'm surprised you got 6. I made no incorrect assumption, I knew it would be hard from the start  For logging to answer the survey, I did not have much choice since the other option was to fill the poll again every time you wanted to see everybody's answer. By the way we have 8 people now. We are getting 2-3 answers a day which is fine. This is a really awesome idea. I love this game, and I love getting others opinions on it... but.... it's way too long. Maybe just have a list of all the skills for each class and have each person pick their top 3. Then compile a list of those 3 in each respective category and have each skill rated on a scale of 1-5 or whatever parameters you want. You will not have an analysis as interesting as this one if you do so but if we still have too few answers at the end of next week I might change the poll to make it quicker. And I think some skills should have a rating option of "bugged/ not working as intended" I've ran across a few skills like this. cryogenic stasis for one.. Yeah I know but it would become too complicated with too many answers. For now, I rate them as they are right now and will change my answer later.
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>>>GOOGLE SURVEY HERE<<<[/u] (You need a google account to answer.) [u]<CURRENT RESULTS>Number of answers : 8 AEROTHURGE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Teleportation 2) Chain lightnings 3) Nether swap
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Apportation 2&3) Breathing bubble / Smoke cover
GEOMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Fortify 2) Impalement 3) Mend metal
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Siphon poison 2) Mass oily carapace 3) Turn to oil
HUNTSMAN Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Tactical retreat 2) First aid 3) Ballistic shot
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Assassinate 2) Glitter dust 3) Farsight
HYDROSOPHIST Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Armour of frost 2) Restoration 3&4) Healing ritual / Winter blast
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Cryotherapy 2) Mass cryotherapy 3) Vampiric hunger
NECROMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Bone cage 2&3) Raise bone widow / Living on the edge
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Silent stare 2) Black shroud 3) Raise bloated corpse
POLYMORH Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Chameleon cloak 2) Chicken claw 3) Spread your wings
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1&2) Icy skin / Jellyfish skin 3) Flaming skin
PYROKINETIC Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Meteor shower 2) Laser ray 3&4) Haste / Peace of mind
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Mass corpse explosion 2) Sabotage 3) Bleed fire
SCOUNDREL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Adrenaline 2) Rupture tendons 3) Backlash
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Wind-up toy 2) Gag order 3) Corrupted blade
SUMMONING Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Conjure incarnate 2) Dominate mind 3) Power infusion
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Door to eternity 2) Dimensional bolt 3) Supercharger
WARFARE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Battle stomp 2) Overpower 3) Bouncing shield
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Provoke 2) Thick of the fight 3) (No more bad skill)
SPECIAL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Flesh sacrifice 2) Time warp 3) Shields up
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Break the shackles 2&3) Maddening song / Demonic stare
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Joined: Oct 2017
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You should maybe consider posting a link to your survey on the dos reddit if you want to get a better coverage. Also, your survey is missing the inner demon skill, but I am NOT filling in this entire thing another time, so don't scrap all the responses due to that please. I would have rated it 4/5.
Last edited by Sharp; 22/10/17 10:52 AM.
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No option for honour mode difficulty? It's literally the only one I play. I'll fill this out later, looks cool.
Last edited by Alexstrasza; 22/10/17 11:22 AM.
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No option for honour mode difficulty? It's literally the only one I play. I'll fill this out later, looks cool. There isn't really any difference between honour mode and tactician. I have played both, its just the, "don't die" difference and that is it. As an aside, the reason I rank living on the edge so low is because there are a few enemies that bypass the immunity and you cannot afford to rely on it in honour mode.
Last edited by Sharp; 22/10/17 01:15 PM.
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You should maybe consider posting a link to your survey on the dos reddit if you want to get a better coverage. Also, your survey is missing the inner demon skill, but I am NOT filling in this entire thing another time, so don't scrap all the responses due to that please. I would have rated it 4/5. This. Post on Reddit and you get a lot more answers.
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I'll post it on reddit tomorrow then. First time using it. Thanks for all your advices  @Sharp : I removed inner demon or the summon poison blob because those are skilled linked to the story. And I am not scrapping the answers ever again ! @Alexstrasza: Thanks for your time  I know this survey is long but at least the people doing it will be rewarded by accessing the results anytime. And I find them quite interesting, I might give a shot at several skills I did not considered before.
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Joined: Apr 2017
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Funny...
"Raise bone widow" is just useless for me when I got "Conjure Incarnate"... And I "thought death wishes" should go with "living on edge".
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>>>GOOGLE SURVEY HERE<<<[/u] (You need a google account to answer.) [u]<CURRENT RESULTS>Number of answers : 11 AEROTHURGE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Teleportation 2) Chain lightnings 3) Uncanny evasion
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Apportation 2) Breathing bubble / Mass Breathing bubble 3) Smoke cover / Erratic wisp
GEOMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Fortify 2) Impalement 3) Pyroclastic eruption / Earthquake
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Siphon poison 2) Mass oily carapace 3) Venomous aura
HUNTSMAN Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Tactical retreat 2) Ballistic shot 3) First aid
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Farsight 2) Assassinate 3) Glitter dust
HYDROSOPHIST Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Armour of frost 2) Restoration 3) Winter blast
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Cryotherapy / Mass cryotherapy 2) Vampiric hunger / Vampiric hunger aura / Steam lance
NECROMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Bone cage 2) Raise bone widow / Living on the edge 3) Grasp of the starved
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Silent stare 2) Black shroud 3) Raise bloated corpse
POLYMORH Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Apotheosis 2) Chameleon cloak 3) Chicken claw
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Icy skin / Jellyfish skin 2) Flaming skin 3) Poisonous skin
PYROKINETIC Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Laser ray 2) Haste / Peace of mind 3) Meteor shower
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Mass corpse explosion 2) Sabotage /Mass sabotage 3) Master of sparks
SCOUNDREL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Adrenaline 2) Rupture tendons 3) Backlash
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Wind-up toy 2) Gag order 3) Throwing knife / Corrupted blade
SUMMONING Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Conjure incarnate 2) Dominate mind 3) Power infusion / Farsight infusion
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Door to eternity 2) Dimensional bolt / Planar gateway 3) Etheral storm / Supercharger
WARFARE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Battle stomp 2) Overpower 3) Bouncing shield / Phoenix dive
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Provoke 2) Thick of the fight 3) (No more bad skill)
SPECIAL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Flesh sacrifice 2) Time warp 3) Shields up
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Break the shackles 2) Maddening song 3) Demonic stare
Last edited by N0x; 23/10/17 10:21 AM.
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"Raise bone widow" is just useless for me when I got "Conjure Incarnate"... And I "thought death wishes" should go with "living on edge". The bone widow is still a strong skill even after the nerf. And someone fighting with the bone widow can save memory slots by not using (incarnate)+(Power infusion)+(Farsight infusion)+... But the incarnate is rated higher anyways. I don't know for other people but I find death wish really underwhelming. It costs 2AP and the multiplier is not what it should be. For example, when I use it with 50% life, I do only 20% more damages. It is not worth the 2AP cost in most cases which could have been invested in another attack doing 100% damage.
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>>>GOOGLE SURVEY HERE<<<[/u] (You need a google account to answer.) [u]<CURRENT RESULTS>Number of answers : 38 AEROTHURGE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Teleportation 2) Chain lightnings 3) Nether swap
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Mass Breathing bubble 2) Breathing bubble / Erratic wisp 3) Favourable wind / Apportation
GEOMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Fortify 2) Impalement 3) Summon artillery plant / Earthquake
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Siphon poison / Turn to oil 2) Mass oily carapace 3) Oily carapace
HUNTSMAN Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Tactical retreat 2) Ballistic shot / Arrow storm 3) First aid / Sky shot
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Farsight 2) Glitter dust 3) (No more bad skill)
HYDROSOPHIST Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Armour of frost 2) Restoration 3) Winter blast
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Cryotherapy / Mass cryotherapy 2) Steam lance 3) Vampiric hunger / Vampiric hunger aura
NECROMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Living on the edge / Blood storm 2) Raise bone widow / Bone cage 3) Grasp of the starved
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Black shroud 2) Totems of the necromancer 3) Silent stare
POLYMORH Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Apotheosis 2) Skin graft 3) Chameleon cloak / Tentacle lash
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) All skins (Flaming/Icy/Jellyfish/Poisonous) 2) Summon oily blob 3) Equalise
PYROKINETIC Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Meteor shower 2) Epidemic of fire / Laser ray 3) Haste / Peace of mind
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Sabotage /Mass sabotage 2) Bleed fire 3) Corpse explosion / Mass corpse explosion
SCOUNDREL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Adrenaline 2) Backlash / Cloak and dagger 3) Rupture tendons
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Gag order / Wind-up toy 2) Corrupted blade 3) Fan of knives
SUMMONING Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Conjure incarnate 2) Dominate mind 3) Power infusion / Farsight infusion
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Door to eternity / Planar gateway / Dimensional bolt 2) Cannibalise 3) Etheral storm / Supercharger
This family is the one with the most badly rated skills.
WARFARE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Battle stomp 2) Overpower / Bouncing shield 3) Battering ram / Phoenix dive / Whirlwind
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Provoke 2) Thick of the fight / Guardian angel 3) Challenge
This skill family is the one with the most highly rated skills.
SPECIAL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Flesh sacrifice 2) Time warp 3) Dome of protection
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Break the shackles 2) Maddening song / Demonic stare / Summon Ifan's soul wolf 3) (No more bad skill)
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>>>GOOGLE SURVEY HERE<<<[/u] (You need a google account to answer.) [u]<CURRENT RESULTS>Number of answers : 111 AEROTHURGE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Teleportation 2) Chain lightnings / Thunderstorm 3) Nether swap / Superconductor
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Breathing bubble /Mass Breathing bubble 2) Apportation/ Favourable wind 3) Shocking touch / Erratic wisp / Vaporize
This family is one with the most badly rated skills.
GEOMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Fortify 2) Impalement / Pyroclastic eruption / Summon artillery plant 3) Earthquake
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Siphon poison / Turn to oil / Oily carapace / Mass oily carapace 2) None 3) Contamination / Throw dust / Dust blast / Corrosive touch
HUNTSMAN Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Tactical retreat 2) Ballistic shot / Arrow storm 3) First aid / Sky shot
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Farsight 2) Glitter dust 3) None
HYDROSOPHIST Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Armour of frost 2) Restoration 3) Winter blast
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Cryotherapy / Mass cryotherapy 2) Steam lance 3) Arcane stitch
NECROMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Living on the edge 2) Raise bone widow / Blood storm 3) Bone cage / Grasp of the starved
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Black shroud / Totems of the necromancer / Silent stare 2) None 3) Infect / Blood sucker
POLYMORH Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Apotheosis / Skin graft 2) Chameleon cloak / Tentacle lash / Chicken claw 3) Spread your wings
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) All skins (Flaming/Icy/Jellyfish/Poisonous) 2) Summon oily blob 3) Equalise
This family is one with the most highly rated skills.
PYROKINETIC Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Meteor shower 2) Epidemic of fire / Laser ray / Haste / Peace of mind 3) Fireball
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Bleed fire / Sabotage /Mass sabotage 2) Corpse explosion / Mass corpse explosion / Flaming crescendo 3) Sparking swings / Master of sparks
This family is one with the most highly rated skills. This family is one with the most badly rated skills.
SCOUNDREL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Adrenaline 2) Cloak and dagger / Backlash 3) Rupture tendons
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Gag order / Wind-up toy 2) Corrupted blade 3) Fan of knives
SUMMONING Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Conjure incarnate 2) Dominate mind 3) Power infusion / Farsight infusion
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Dimensional bolt / Door to eternity / Planar gateway 2) Cannibalise 3) Etheral storm / Supercharger / Shadow infusion
This family is one with the most badly rated skills.
WARFARE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Battle stomp 2) Bouncing shield 3) Overpower / Battering ram / Phoenix dive / Whirlwind
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Provoke 2) Thick of the fight / Guardian angel 3) Challenge
This skill family is one with the most highly rated skills.
SPECIAL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Flesh sacrifice / Time warp 2) Dome of protection 3) Shields up
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Break the shackles / Summon Ifan's soul wolf 2) Maddening song / Demonic stare 3) All in / Flurry
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>>>GOOGLE SURVEY HERE<<<[/u] (You need a google account to answer.) [u]<CURRENT RESULTS>Number of answers : 174 AEROTHURGE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Teleportation 2) Chain lightnings / Thunderstorm 3) Nether swap / Superconductor
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills).
1) Breathing bubble /Mass Breathing bubble / Favourable wind 2) Apportation / Shocking touch 3) Erratic wisp / Vaporize / Vacuum touch
GEOMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Fortify 2) Impalement / Pyroclastic eruption 3) Earthquake / Summon artillery plant
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills). 1) Siphon poison / Turn to oil / Oily carapace / Mass oily carapace 2) Contamination 3) Corrosive touch / Corrosive spray / Living wall
HUNTSMAN Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Tactical retreat 2) Ballistic shot / Arrow storm 3) First aid / Sky shot
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Farsight 2) Glitter dust 3) None
HYDROSOPHIST Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Armour of frost 2) Restoration 3) Winter blast
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Cryotherapy / Mass cryotherapy 2) Steam lance 3) Arcane stitch / Healing tears
NECROMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Living on the edge 2) Raise bone widow / Blood storm 3) Bone cage / Grasp of the starved
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Black shroud / Totems of the necromancer 2) Silent stare 3) Infect
POLYMORH Best unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most highly rated skills.) 1) Apotheosis 2) Skin graft / Chameleon cloak / Tentacle lash / Chicken claw 3) Spread your wings
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) All skins (Flaming/Icy/Jellyfish/Poisonous) 2) Summon oily blob 3) Equalise
PYROKINETIC Best unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most highly rated skills.) 1) Meteor shower 2) Epidemic of fire / Laser ray / Haste / Peace of mind 3) Fireball
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills). 1) Bleed fire 2) Corpse explosion / Mass corpse explosion / Flaming crescendo / Sabotage /Mass sabotage 3) Sparking swings / Master of sparks
SCOUNDREL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Adrenaline 2) Cloak and dagger / Backlash 3) Rupture tendons
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Wind-up toy 2) Gag order 3) Fan of knives / Corrupted blade
SUMMONING Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Conjure incarnate 2) Power infusion 3) Dominate mind / Farsight infusion
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills). 1) Dimensional bolt / Door to eternity / Planar gateway / Cannibalise 2) Supercharger 3) Etheral storm / Shadow infusion
WARFARE Best unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most highly rated skills.) 1) Battle stomp 2) Bouncing shield 3) Overpower / Battering ram / Phoenix dive / Whirlwind
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Provoke 2) Thick of the fight / Guardian angel / Challenge 3) None
SPECIAL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Flesh sacrifice / Time warp 2) Dome of protection 3) Shields up
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Break the shackles / Summon Ifan's soul wolf 2) Maddening song / Demonic stare 3) All in / Flurry
Last edited by N0x; 24/10/17 11:02 AM.
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>>>GOOGLE SURVEY HERE<<<[/u] (You need a google account to answer.) [u]<CURRENT RESULTS>Number of answers : 192 AEROTHURGE Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Teleportation 2) Chain lightnings / Thunderstorm 3) Nether swap / Superconductor
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills).
1) Breathing bubble /Mass Breathing bubble / Favourable wind 2) Apportation / Shocking touch 3) Erratic wisp / Vaporize
GEOMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Fortify 2) Impalement / Pyroclastic eruption 3) Earthquake / Summon artillery plant
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills). 1) Siphon poison / Turn to oil / Oily carapace / Mass oily carapace 2) Contamination / Living wall 3) Corrosive touch / Corrosive spray
HUNTSMAN Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Tactical retreat / Arrow storm 2) Ballistic shot 3) First aid / Sky shot
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Farsight 2) Glitter dust 3) None
HYDROSOPHIST Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Armour of frost 2) Restoration 3) Winter blast
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills). 1) Cryotherapy / Mass cryotherapy 2) Steam lance / Healing tears 3) Arcane stitch / Vampiric hunger / Vampiric hunger aura
NECROMANCER Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Living on the edge 2) Raise bone widow / Blood storm 3) Bone cage / Grasp of the starved
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Black shroud / Totems of the necromancer 2) Silent stare 3) Infect
POLYMORH Best unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most highly rated skills.) 1) Apotheosis 2) Skin graft / Chameleon cloak / Tentacle lash / Chicken claw 3) Spread your wings
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) All skins (Flaming/Icy/Jellyfish/Poisonous) 2) Summon oily blob 3) Equalise
PYROKINETIC Best unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most highly rated skills.) 1) Meteor shower 2) Epidemic of fire / Laser ray / Haste / Peace of mind 3) Fireball
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills). 1) Bleed fire / Corpse explosion / Mass corpse explosion 2) Flaming crescendo / Flaming tongues / Sabotage /Mass sabotage 3) Sparking swings / Master of sparks
SCOUNDREL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Adrenaline 2) Cloak and dagger / Backlash 3) Rupture tendons
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Wind-up toy 2) Gag order 3) Fan of knives
SUMMONING Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Conjure incarnate 2) Power infusion 3) Dominate mind / Farsight infusion
Worst unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most badly rated skills). 1) Dimensional bolt / Door to eternity / Planar gateway / Cannibalise 2) Supercharger 3) Etheral storm / Shadow infusion
WARFARE Best unanimous 3 skills : (This family is one with the most highly rated skills.) 1) Battle stomp 2) Bouncing shield 3) Overpower / Battering ram / Phoenix dive / Whirlwind
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Provoke 2) Guardian angel / Challenge 3) Thick of the fight
SPECIAL Best unanimous 3 skills : 1) Flesh sacrifice / Time warp 2) Dome of protection 3) Shields up
Worst unanimous 3 skills : 1) Break the shackles / Summon Ifan's soul wolf 2) Maddening song / Demonic stare 3) All in / Flurry
Last edited by N0x; 30/10/17 04:33 PM.
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We can easily notice that most of the time, crafted skills are quite bad 
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Ill talk about scoundrel, and necro. that are the only things i played after full release:
Scoundrel, best 3 in order: 1 - Backlash: do 85% damage, get backstab position, high range, only 1 ap? xD 2 - Mortal blow: use backlash to go behind target, use chameleon cloak, buff weapon with poison, instakill anyone for 2 ap. Of course it uses 3 SP, but just suck everyone u pass by and ure fine 3 - Sawtooth knife/rupture tendons: Rupture is great cuz AI is dumb and keep running/teleporting, otherwise it wouldnt be so good. Sawtooth gets ALL THE DAMAGE U WOULD DO summed it, and do it as piercing damage, and also sets bleeding, for only 2 ap, its easy to hit for tons of damage if u have both weapons coated with poison, having runes and then using venom coating skill.
Worst 3:
1 - Gag order 2 - Corrupted blade 3 - Fan of knives
obs: Wind up toy is good, just forget using most summons if u dont have summoning levels. Artillery plant can one-shot every enemy on the fight simultanely if u have 14+ summoning.
Necromancer:
Best 3:
Well necro use a lot of combos, but i will try to separate stuff.
1 - Raise Bone Widow: That crap is just too strong if u dont have any summoning levels, atleast for tanking. 2 - Bone Cage: Need 2k shields for 1ap? cool use that. 3 - Living on the edge: Pretty good, only 2 ap if u use elemental affinity.
Worst 3:
1 - Infect: Hey, disease that guy and your entire party, nothing can go wrong! 2 - Silencing stare: Its not that bad, but 2 ap just for silencing when ppl are out of magic armor is meh. 3 - Black Shroud: Same stuff.
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Sawtooth gets ALL THE DAMAGE U WOULD DO summed it, and do it as piercing damage, and also sets bleeding, for only 2 ap, its easy to hit for tons of damage if u have both weapons coated with poison, having runes and then using venom coating skill.
I personally find sawtooth pretty average. I find it better to strip off the armor of an enemy to be able to CC him. And if you did not kill him with swatooth, you will have to destroy his armor anyways so... Concerning your poison coating, I think it is useless since it will lightly hit the magical armor when I am doing physical damages. I always coat my weapons with poison because I like to feel optimized but it is 99,9% useless in DOS2. By the way, it is rare for someone to not mention Adrenaline ^^ Do you not like the skill ? Concerning wind-up toy, I prefer using my AP with skills more effective. And there a lot of skill way better than that. If I want to AoE, I do Battlestomp or whildwind (that can even backstab :p).
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