Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) Technical Problems Beyond Divinity corrupts norton antivirus

as stated, 3 times now norton antivirus has been corrupted by beyond divinity, claiming it has been tampered with. Here, the last time i tried just to shut down the autoprotect, but appearently thats not good enough. I had been playing for hours, when it suddenly shifts to window with a window from norton that it has encountered an internal error and i have to uninstall and reinstall it again. Appearently you have to shut down norton completely from the task manager, which is QUITE an irritant.

[color:"orange"]Appearently you have to shut down norton completely from the task manager[/color]
You say that like it is a bad thing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

I was curious exactly what Autoprotect did (besides the obvious), so searched Google with 'Norton Autoprotect' thinking that would turn up the appropriate page on Norton's site. The first page of Google's results were mostly reports of conflicts.

To be honest, I think you have another problem, I doubt they would create a game which doesn't work with the software of one of the two biggest anti-virus companies at this time !

I even doubt that they didn't have Norton themselves at work ... (next to McAfee offcourse <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ).

Besides, I myself hav Norton Antivirus Pro 2004, and have not yet found any problems regarding that.
I have however already had problems with Norton ITSELF, which one day just said that it wasn't installed correctly anymore and I had to reinstall it, also I one time upgraded the program with live update, and after rebootnig computer, my pc would hang at boot. Had no other solution then to reinstall windows (and believe me I know enough of pc's, it wasn't recoverable).

So I think you rather have a problem with NAV itself, then with the combination Divinity + NAV ...

Sorry to say so

Try McAfee or something ... if your that desperate ...

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PS.: Don't overdo it Raze, NAV is a great program and still THE best Antivirus program together with McAfee ... others don't even come close !
Even if it did/does cause problems for (for example) 1000's of people, there are MILLIONS of them having NO problems also !
I would just advice in totally uninstalling NAV, then DELETING the SYMANTEC dir in Program files (or whatever name you gave it e.g. NAV) + ALSO the the following dir : c:\program files\common files\symantec shared, and then REINSTALL the application ! This will more then likely solve your problem, and plz don't ask my why !

I looked, there is NO symantec folder under Common files here.

norton/symantec is overrated anyway. it/they may be good, but sometimes, marketers try and convince you that you need all the bells and whistles when in reality you don't. being e-sanitary is easy enough if you follow a few simple rules:

1) don't EVER open email attachments or emails from foreign addresses that you don't know. delete them immediately. if you see an attachment that looks funny from someone you do know with extensions that are anything but *.txt, *.bmp, *.jpg, *.gif (as a good rule, discuss details with anyone you email with) with strange or out of the ordinary subjects and/or text contents, DELETE it. this eliminates worms and the like. if you can, invest in a spam blocker. there was one bundled with zone alarm pro recently. this will destroy any email viri directly.
2) invest in a firewall. hardware preferred, but if you have to go with software, zone alarm pro is best. zone alarm does have a free basic download that will take care of the main needs. this will eliminate trojans. also protects against port scanners and the like who would insinuate software into your system without your knowledge.
3) ad-aware or similar spyware blockers work wonders for eliminating those nasy little parasites.
4) if you absolutely must, then make sure to not surf porn, hacker, or warez sites without the above protection or you are asking for trouble. better yet, just don't surf them at all. pretty much protects you from all of the above, including port scans from those websites.
5) virus protection software is good to have, but there are options besides the overly expensive retail packages. Trend Micro has a free online scanning service that can handle removal of most (that's MOST, not all) viri. this doesn't mean don't invest. just if you don't have the cash, and some don't because we are buying these silly video games .:heh:. such that these free ones are options. for those that are interested, the trend micro site is: http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

now it is likely that the reason there's a problem is because the norton software has detected some change the beyond divinity install did, and because it is foreign, thinks there's a problem when there isn't. the software isn't smart after all, just thorough.

in case you are wondering, i just don't like the overly invasive nature of some software developers in their attempt to cover all unrelated bases in one program. particularly, norton's email protection, last time i checked, stinks, as it never works for very long. at least it never did for me. mcafee wasn't much better.

now, was that an off topic sidetrack or what? .:heh:.

Norton Antivirus itself is fine, but anytime something is running in the background trying to access everything in real time, while another program is updating a lot of stuff or using a lot of resources, there are going to be conflicts.
I have a couple antivirus programs, but have never enabled real time scanning.

Listen, it NEVER scans the HD when i am playing and that problem happens.. I was playing around 6 am this morning, and ive set norton to scan my hd every day 3 pm. All of a sudden, bamfs, beyond divinity drops to windows, and a message comes up from norton that norton has encountered an internal error, and i have to reinstall it. Autoprotect was disabled, and it wasnt scanning. i could alt tab back into the game and continue.

Experienced similar behaviour with the combination of Norton Systemworks 2004 and Beyond Divinity w/ patch 1.42. May have something to do with scheduled tasks in Norton or it may not. I've had two "internal error" messages pop up. Followed the error message thread back to the Symantec site and reinstalled Systemworks. Am on the second reinstall and have played BD for about 5 hours - so far so good. The only "funny" business that I've noticed in BD when the error message appears is that it may correspond to items suddenly going missing from my inventory - on the first incident, a shield went missing; on the second, a small water crystal went missing.

Could this have anything to do with the correlation in time between the initial outbreak of the Sausser worm and the release of BD on or about the same day?

I had a similar problem on the Thursday after I bought and installed game and did not think that it had anything to do with BD. Just figured it was a nasty combination of viruses/trojans and/or spyware, all of which were found upon running various utilities. Screwed up not only norton, but windows and internet explorer. After restoring, I reinstalled norton and then BD and am having no problems. Hope I havent spoken too soon,

my computer is not rebooting, as the sausser worm will cause. Also, ive played BD offline, turning off the cable modem. And it still randomly breaks norton antivirus if its active and installed. It makes no difference if norton autoprotect is enabled or not. Plus i have zone alarm pro on my box, keeping a lid on suspicious activity that would try to go out from my computer, as well spyware cleaner. I noted if you shut down ccapp in the task manager, which is part of norton, the corruption will never happen, as norton is not active. You can see it by the icon for autoprotect vanishing from the taskbar.

Played BD for ~10 hours with no further NAV problems after second reinstall. Then this morning, started BD and during introductory video, the NAV internal error screen popped up. I immediately quit BD and checked NAV - got the "NAV has been tampered" message. Rebooted my system and suddenly NAV was OK again. Got the Sasser fix program from Symantec but it did not detect the presence of worm. Restarted BD and played for about 3 hours with no problems. This is one wacky bug and can't get it to recur predictably so it can be reported to Symantec. AEEEEEE!

I've been using NAV for years without any trouble and I'm currently on Norton Internet Security Pro 2004.

Then recently I started having the same trouble with NAV that others have been describing in this thread. It didn't occur to me that there might be a connection with BD until I came across this thread (while looking for something else) and realised that the trouble with NAV did start at about the same time that I installed BD.

I can't imagine how BD could be affecting NAV, but it does seem a strange coincidence especially if someone else has also had it happen.

As well as NAV, I regularly Spybot, so I'm fairly confident that I don't have any nasties on my machine.

Paul

Half of the evils of this world happen because of Norton Anti-Virus Autoprotect <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />.

agreed! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />